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Old 08-05-2018, 12:55 AM
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First mods: seeking input from fellow freaks and wise old heads

So I’m ready to do some real mods to a 18 Sport 6MT (Modern Steel) and I’m just stuck on what to do first. Let’s say the budget for ’Phase One’ (don’t tell my wife I said that!) is $1200 - that’s about a wheel/tire package OR?

For every other car I think I’ve had, wheels and tires first no question. But I can live with the stock Sport wheels, they’re not what I’d pick but they’re not bad, especially minus the chrome lugnuts. Black RPF1’s with some good tires I can justify but not sure it’s a ‘first thing’ priority.

Im kinda leaning towards springs or even shocks and springs... Definitely I’d go with Swift from what I’ve read so far, I like the 1” all around, almost stock but better looking, no drunken dodging of road imperfections. I’m in RI, we eat potholes for breakfast. Looks good now, ready for better wheels down the road. So seeing as I’m not looking to autox, I’d probably be satisfied with just the springs right? But while youre in there anyway, why not pimp out the whole suspension and do shocks too? (Konis?) This is how I get stuck. How bout just springs plus front and rear bars? I’d love to hear from you veterans what magic combo will be most bang for buck, still staying comfy daily driver but more fun to whip around.

Exhaust - this car is kinda begging for it yeah? You can tell it’ll have a nice satisfying grrrr to it if given a chance. The Bisimoto is my top contender, although I would be interested in a subtle ‘traditional’ can with a single tip like the Tanabe for the 2nd gen Fit. The Medallion looks and sounds great but imho the dual tip on the Sport is not ideal. The Sport has a cutout for the exhaust, and if something lined up nicely with that, and has a subtle sound/look, I’d love to take a look at it. It seems the Sport has an odd hanger orientation, but I’ve seen the solutions and theyre okay by me.

I know, “What should I do?” threads can be um sad sometimes, but sometimes you want to pick the brains of the experienced Jedis. Somebody says “Oh, I did this this and that but if I had to do it over I’d just do this other instead” and some grizzled old tuner is like “Yup”. And then I can learn from that hard earned wisdom and mod accordingly lol. I may be ignorant, but I learn fast.


(Aside: I’d like to do a short shifter, and I contacted Acuity because I like their style and they just look sooo much more built than the competition. They ARE developing a kit for the GK but don’t have a release date for us. They assured me that the Fit has a personal importance to them above and beyond the profit margins and they will get er done)
 

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Old 08-05-2018, 06:52 AM
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Most are going to tell you to buy what they bought or what they like. Just human nature for affirmation that others like or want what they have. You'll find very little recommendations based on I bought this and wouldn't recommend it.

Have a plan, read the rules.
I autocross. It's my hobby, not saying it has to be your hobby. What I see too frequently is most buy a car, make modifications and then decided they want to autocross. Then they find out that the wheels are too wide for the stock class, wrong offset or more importantly their $500 non-functional modification now bumped them into a class that guys buy $12,000 shocks. If you ever think you might race, go read the rules first before you buy the first part.

Or the car doesn't have a theme. Just a pile of individual purchase parts that singularly are cool, but together are a hodgepodge of parts. Example: Lowered, stanced, rally mud flaps, tow hook, roll cage, light bar, diffuser front rock guard, and bike rack with storage tote. It's like are you going camping with your slammed, lowered rally car that won't make it out of a steep driveway? If you want to build a rally car, then build a rally car. If you want a slammed, stance car then build one. Think about the theme or end result. Just don't go buy parts.
 

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Old 08-05-2018, 11:49 AM
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For a fun daily driver tires first (definite must for everyone) muffler second (definitely a must for me)
From experience stiffer springs require matching dampers, so HFP kit would be ideal IMO.
But with wider, lighter wheels and decent rubber I find the stock suspension more than adequate.
 
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Old 08-05-2018, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob H
Most are going to tell you to buy what they bought or what they like. Just human nature for affirmation that others like or want what they have. You'll find very little recommendations based on I bought this and wouldn't recommend it.

Have a plan, read the rules.
I autocross. It's my hobby, not saying it has to be your hobby. What I see too frequently is most buy a car, make modifications and then decided they want to autocross. Then they find out that the wheels are too wide for the stock class, wrong offset or more importantly their $500 non-functional modification now bumped them into a class that guys buy $12,000 shocks. If you ever think you might race, go read the rules first before you buy the first part.

Or the car doesn't have a theme. Just a pile of individual purchase parts that singularly are cool, but together are a hodgepodge of parts. Example: Lowered, stanced, rally mud flaps, tow hook, roll cage, light bar, diffuser front rock guard, and bike rack with storage tote. It's like are you going camping with your slammed, lowered rally car that won't make it out of a steep driveway? If you want to build a rally car, then build a rally car. If you want a slammed, stance car then build one. Think about the theme or end result. Just don't go buy parts.

Lmao, I hear you on the “What’s the theme here?” cars, but I’m not THAT guy. I’ve always been very strict about that, I generally have an overall concept and stick to it (maybe a couple changes along the way if something doesn’t work quite as planned). Tasteful and understated is the thing.

I like to debadge, tint, lower, wheels n tires, some small subtle details that set it apart and contribute to the overall look. I’m not going into AutoZone and buying chrome trim and led lights and vents to stick on the quarter panels lol. I definitely stick to a theme, I’m just new to the Fit and there’s soooo many aftermarket options.

You’re right, MOST people will tell you what they bought and automatically say it’s awesome yada yada. But there are some good guys on here too, I know they’ll be honest and say “Did this, don’t make my mistake” or “Must have”

So yeah, I will definitely keep it classy and focused, just looking for what y’all felt were the musts. I just don’t know the Fit or the aftermarket options well enough yet, not familiar with all the brands, what makes a big, felt difference, and what’s just a waste of time. I can sift through the bs and extract the pearls. Im going for a better-than-stock daily driver, and of course it’s gotta look good. (But NO sacrifice of function for looks, so although I love a slammed and craaaazy cambered look, that’s not for me). So gotta be lowered (but I’ve only ever done springs, no experience with upgraded shocks), gotta have an exhaust (need to hear more about options and the fitment on the Sport bumper).
 

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Old 08-05-2018, 12:25 PM
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For exhaust: Im partial to the look, sound, and price of the hks silent hipower.

https://youtu.be/MFMin9WsRlk
 

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Old 08-05-2018, 04:27 PM
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I did suspension first and its the one thing that I would do first to any car. Increases handling and makes the car look so much better. A lowered car on steelies looks better then a none lowered car on BBS wheels, IMO.

After doing the spring and shock thing on a previous car I went straight to coilovers for the Fit and am glad I did. For the price they offer more in the way of adjust ability and the shocks match the spring rate already. I set my ride height at first where I liked it and a year later wanted to go lower, so I did. Winter comes I can raise the car back up.

I already had a set of summer tires and wheels but before I lowered the car they totally transformed it. Just upgrading to a summer tire made it handle so much better. If the stock tires are pretty decent then I wouldn't worry about that too much.

The HKS is very well made exhaust. I had one on my Civic and it sounded great and held up to salt and snow really well.
 
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Old 08-05-2018, 05:29 PM
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FWIW, HFP is just 2X stiffer springs that lower .5", and matching shocks. Could just do that.

I looked closely at a '18 HFP in Wisconsin that's priced to go at a good deal, but decided against it.
 
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Old 08-05-2018, 06:36 PM
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So I’m ready to do some real mods to a 18 Sport 6MT (Modern Steel) and I’m just stuck on what to do first...

It doesn't get any more "real" than Red JDM H emblems and the coveted "JDM Rear Wiper Mod".
 
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Old 08-06-2018, 12:15 AM
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It doesn't get any more "real" than Red JDM H emblems and the coveted "JDM Rear Wiper Mod".

Haha, I will keep it real and get me some of that Honda red. Adds 10hp for less than the price of a bowl of soup. I was thinking of Easternizing the wiper today but decided to mow the lawn and trim shrubs instead on the hottest day in known history.

I guess I’ll let the blatant name-borrowing slide this time Rick. They say imitation is the highest form of flattery, so consider me flattered. (Yes, I’m busting your nuggets and I know you were here first! I never saw your name before I joined, as I never lurked - just got me a Fit and joined the first club that’d have me)
 
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Old 08-06-2018, 01:29 PM
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I usually hate these "what should I mod" threads, but you appear to have put some thought into it, so therefore I shall reciprocate


I think you're on the right track with the Swift springs. you're going to want to pair it up with some orange koni's or some other strut/shock, the oems leave a lot to desire for. Eibach springs are a close 2nd place, imo.

I'm bias on the Bisimoto, as I own one. I just LOVE the sound. You seem to want something that will fit the cutout of the 2018 sport bumper, you'll probably want an hks or something that has a single exit round tip. that said, the bisimoto may look funny, as it would leave a gap/hole in your rear bumper

in regards to wheels/tires .... I was able to get away with $368.88 for 4 tires, and 4 konig flowformed wheels (10.9lb each, it was the next best thing to an enkei rpf1 as far as being strong/lightweight). even with taxes and mounting and other crazy fees, still came out to under $500 for it all.

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$480 for wheels
$163.88 for tires
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$643.88
-275 rebate (100 rebate for wheels, 75 rebate on tires, 100 rebate assuming youll pay with their store card)
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$368.88


https://www.discounttiredirect.com/b...ial-in/p/74406 - $120/ea


https://www.discounttiredirect.com/b...2-h457/p/19440 - $40.97/ea



shameless plug, to my build thread:
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/3rd-...ans-build.html
 
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Old 08-06-2018, 01:30 PM
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OH and , just one more thing, if you're looking for power .... skip intakes, exhaust, red emblems (sorry rick), decals that add 10hp, etc, and go straight to a Ktuner.

thank me later
 
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Old 08-06-2018, 01:51 PM
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yah if swift makes springs for ur GK get those, and wheels/tires. tanabe axleback and dat ktuner evil mentioned if dat has any real benefit. good choice on getting the MT. makes da car worthwhile to mod.
 
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Old 08-06-2018, 11:21 PM
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Tanabe vs HKS vs Bisimoto

Ok, so thanks everyone for your input so far, I’ll say again - great community here.

Im getting some focus here, I just need to decide on a pipe. I’m going to do the Swift springs and the Progress RSB, I’m looking to keep it aaaalmost stock but with an improvement to handling/feel and I think that’ll be a good bang for buck ratio. So for round 1, I just need to settle on one exhaust:

Tanabe vs HKS vs Bisi: the Battle of the Blrrrrps

I want to like the Tanabe, it sounds clean and looks very nicely made, but idk if I can get into the twin tips. Ima have to keep looking at Fit exhaust porn and see if I can learn to love it, it is clearly a nice piece of kit. But I keep hearing “You have a notch in your bumper for a single” and then I take my meds and the voices stop for a while.

HKS Silent checks pretty much all the boxes, it looks like it extends a wee bit more than ideal, but looks good. That extra extension could save you from brillo-padding petro-goop off your bumper I guess. Not goofy big, and (I’d hope) the tip would line up with the bumper notch. Sounds good, possibly a bit more ‘poppy’ than the Bisi? More ‘tuner-y’ if you will... or even if you won’t.

Bisimoto Pulse also floats my boat... The ONLY potential downside I can see is that the pipe is tucked under the bumper pretty good, and it seems there could be a possibility of some blowby buildup/discoloration there. It looks good back there, it’s like you gotta cop a squat and take a look-see to spot it. (Also noticed some water blowing out of the HKS in vids and it occurred to me that the Bisi would be much less likely to catch some h2o). Love the sound, love the funky handmade look. My impression is this is the more subtle, refined, of the two (HKS vs Bisi)

Afaik, with either the HKS or the Bisi I’m looking at having to do a little custom fitting to install on an 18 Sport so neither has an advantage there. Both are gonna have pretty much the same mounting points so I can’t imagine one being ‘easier’ to custom fit than the other. Both are about the same money, arghhh. Decisions decisions.

Swift springs, Progress RSB, aaaand SOME pipe...

What do you freaks think? HKS? Bisi? They both get nothing but love from you guys that have them installed. Any pros and cons I’m not seeing?
 

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Old 08-07-2018, 01:38 AM
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allow me to make your decision a little harder. more than likely, youre looking at the hks silent hi-power?

32016-AH031
https://www.hks-power.co.jp/en/produ...ffler/db/15573



32003-CH002
how about the hks hi-power muffler instead?
https://www.hks-power.co.jp/en/produ...ffler/db/17883
 

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Old 08-07-2018, 01:44 AM
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or , lets add a new player to the game .... how about a spoon sports n1?

https://www.kamispeed.com/Spoon-Spor...30-gk5-011.htm



OR

how about a buddy club racing spec ti?
https://www.kamispeed.com/Buddy-Club...rsexti-gk5.htm
 
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Old 08-07-2018, 01:53 AM
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okay okay just 1 more .... how about a j's racing exhaust?

JS-T304-F5-50R
https://www.evasivemotorsports.com/m...oaAtGMEALw_wcB


OR

if you're made of money, a titanium version ...
JS-FTM-F5-50R
https://www.evasivemotorsports.com/m...AaAlGxEALw_wcB
 
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If I were to spend $1200 modifying a Fit, I'd buy the following:

https://www.kamispeed.com/Swift-Lowe.../swf.4h916.htm $300

https://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Whee...180807055203:s $900

(Okay, I wouldn't buy RPF1, but you mentioned liking them so here they are)

Pair the springs with the stock shocks & the Weds with the stock tires.

An axleback gives you no power & very little in the way of sound, the L15 family sounds lame anyway.

A rear sway bar isn't going to revolutionize your driving experience.

Red badges don't make your car a Type R, they just look dumb to anyone who knows what they should translate to.

Better to keep using your OEM tires until you have money to buy quality tires than some cheapo $40 all seasons.

If you want to tweak the interior, pick up a shift knob.

I wouldn't mod a Fit any further than that. I went a little wild with my GD3 in my younger days (lol he says as a young man) and it just didn't really make the car any better.

Enjoy the car for what it is, a cheap well built, efficient, utilitarian thing. Don't overspend on mad 'jdm' exhausts (seriously those axlebacks cost more than my full Mugen catback did for my S2000), don't go wild on minimizing functionality, don't remove the catalytic convertor, etc. You'd just be making the car worse.
 
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Old 08-07-2018, 04:53 AM
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An axleback gives you no power & very little in the way of sound, the L15 family sounds lame anyway... Red badges don't make your car a Type R, they just look dumb to anyone who knows what they should translate to...
You couldn't be more wrong.

OP, do not listen to this ruse; Mike doesn't even have a FIT in his signature...

Without red H's and a cool sounding exhaust (6MT only, right Ken?) on your Fit, you have nothing.
 

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Ok, so thanks everyone for your input so far, I’ll say again - great community here.

Im getting some focus here, I just need to decide on a pipe. I’m going to do the Swift springs and the Progress RSB, I’m looking to keep it aaaalmost stock but with an improvement to handling/feel and I think that’ll be a good bang for buck ratio. So for round 1, I just need to settle on one exhaust:

Tanabe vs HKS vs Bisi: the Battle of the Blrrrrps

I want to like the Tanabe, it sounds clean and looks very nicely made, but idk if I can get into the twin tips. Ima have to keep looking at Fit exhaust porn and see if I can learn to love it, it is clearly a nice piece of kit. But I keep hearing “You have a notch in your bumper for a single” and then I take my meds and the voices stop for a while.

HKS Silent checks pretty much all the boxes, it looks like it extends a wee bit more than ideal, but looks good. That extra extension could save you from brillo-padding petro-goop off your bumper I guess. Not goofy big, and (I’d hope) the tip would line up with the bumper notch. Sounds good, possibly a bit more ‘poppy’ than the Bisi? More ‘tuner-y’ if you will... or even if you won’t.

Bisimoto Pulse also floats my boat... The ONLY potential downside I can see is that the pipe is tucked under the bumper pretty good, and it seems there could be a possibility of some blowby buildup/discoloration there. It looks good back there, it’s like you gotta cop a squat and take a look-see to spot it. (Also noticed some water blowing out of the HKS in vids and it occurred to me that the Bisi would be much less likely to catch some h2o). Love the sound, love the funky handmade look. My impression is this is the more subtle, refined, of the two (HKS vs Bisi)

Afaik, with either the HKS or the Bisi I’m looking at having to do a little custom fitting to install on an 18 Sport so neither has an advantage there. Both are gonna have pretty much the same mounting points so I can’t imagine one being ‘easier’ to custom fit than the other. Both are about the same money, arghhh. Decisions decisions.

Swift springs, Progress RSB, aaaand SOME pipe...

What do you freaks think? HKS? Bisi? They both get nothing but love from you guys that have them installed. Any pros and cons I’m not seeing?
HKS on my 2015 discolors my white bumper. I don't know how it'll do with the 2018 Sport bumper but just be aware. Claybar cleans it up, but it's there just so you know.
 
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Originally Posted by UnFitRick
You couldn't be more wrong.

OP, do not listen to this ruse; Mike doesn't even have a FIT in his signature...

Without red H's and a cool sounding exhaust (6MT only, right Ken?) on your Fit, you have nothing.
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or dumb.
 


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