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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 12:26 AM
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Hey Chris, I also can't thank you enough for all your posts... Thank you. I have been following this post since the begining and I remember talk of an intercooler option.... any more word of this in your conversations with the "Oscar's" ? I would imagine you would be interested in this option as well, wanting to upgrade to the 10psi. kit ? Thanks.
 
Old Aug 3, 2007 | 03:14 AM
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It's august... maybe they'll pull a rabbit out of the hat and have 10lb kits for A/T sport fits...
 

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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 03:32 AM
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been wondering, what is it exactly that makes the 5lb. kit emissions legal, and 10lbs not? -- how much of a hassle would it be to have a 10lb kit, and then when it comes time to get a smog check in a few years, detune the car to let it pass, and then bring it back again? it seems the difference in actual hardware isn't much, so is it just the PSI and ignition timing that is making the difference in making smog legal or not??
 

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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by gthumb23
Hey Chris, I also can't thank you enough for all your posts... Thank you. I have been following this post since the begining and I remember talk of an intercooler option.... any more word of this in your conversations with the "Oscar's" ? I would imagine you would be interested in this option as well, wanting to upgrade to the 10psi. kit ? Thanks.
No problem, this is my whole purpose for living lol. Anyways I havent really talked with them about a intercooler option yet only becuase I love the fact that no one can tell my car is boosting. I will probably do a Intercooler when I go up to the 10lb kit only to help with cooling, cause its better to overcool then to under.
 
Old Aug 3, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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It's august... maybe they'll pull a rabbit out of the hat and have 10lb kits for A/T sport fits...
lol I doubt it. But I did here SOMETHING about this month
 
Old Aug 3, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by eNAyeM
been wondering, what is it exactly that makes the 5lb. kit emissions legal, and 10lbs not? -- how much of a hassle would it be to have a 10lb kit, and then when it comes time to get a smog check in a few years, detune the car to let it pass, and then bring it back again? it seems the difference in actual hardware isn't much, so is it just the PSI and ignition timing that is making the difference in making smog legal or not??
The reason the 10lb kit is not emissions legal is because you will be changing your injectors thats probably the biggest thing right there. Im sure "detuning" it will still cause you to fail unless you completely switch over to the 5lb kit.
 
Old Aug 3, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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The reason the 10lb kit is not emissions legal is because you will be changing your injectors thats probably the biggest thing right there. Im sure "detuning" it will still cause you to fail unless you completely switch over to the 5lb kit.
hey JDM how has that 5psi kit been treating you? cause i want to get one but i need to be sure it will be street legal (moving to AZ in a few months,have to register there, then back to CA after that; how will the kit work in their hot weather?)

do you have any dynos for the 5psi kit? thanks man!
 
Old Aug 3, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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the 5psi kit has been very good so far. No major problems at all. No heating issues. The kit will do fine in their hot weather. I live in the socal desert and granted it might not get as hot here in socal as in arizona the fit has been through many triple digit trips with no problem at all. I have a dyno somewhere i think its posted somewhere in here.

i found it:
 
Old Aug 3, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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thanks! For the 5psi kit dyno chart; what other engine upgrades/mods/fuel etc are you running with the kit when you did that? if you do have additional mods with that run are they carb eo numbered? detonation probs?

btw how well does the a/c work while driving (im afraid the a/c wont work as well with the supercharger attached) cause no a/c in AZ would be killer (especially since im coming from cooler locales cooled by the pacific breezes lol).

dude i am totally killing you with the 50 questions, if we ever meet i'll get you some beers.
 
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I have a headerback system and upgraded injectors and thats it. so mine isnt really carb exempt lol its ok cause ill be on 10lbs soon enough lol. The AC seems to work better now that the SC is on lol. EVERYTHING still mimicks OEM but the power :P lol idles like oem im getting the same gas mileage as before the SC. I couldnt be happier.

actually i could if i was on 10lbs lol.
 
Old Aug 3, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by gloryhound
(moving to AZ in a few months,have to register there, then back to CA after that; how will the kit work in their hot weather?)
Mmm, that's where turbos have a leg up... in hotter/higher thin air, they naturally spin faster, achieving about the same level of boost.

The supercharger is belt-driven though, it spins at a multiple of the motor rpm at all times. We need a pulley that can dynamically change size...
 

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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JDMchris.com
the 5psi kit has been very good so far. No major problems at all. No heating issues. The kit will do fine in their hot weather. I live in the socal desert and granted it might not get as hot here in socal as in arizona the fit has been through many triple digit trips with no problem at all. I have a dyno somewhere i think its posted somewhere in here.

i found it:
Wow! So if you are hitting 140whp with the 5 lb kit I wonder what the 10 lb kit will do? Do you have to change out injectors, fuel pump, and ecu? I saw that the a & j turbo kit put down around 160whp. What is the big differance from running the JRSC and the turbo kit?
 
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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Wow! So if you are hitting 140whp with the 5 lb kit I wonder what the 10 lb kit will do? Do you have to change out injectors, fuel pump, and ecu? I saw that the a & j turbo kit put down around 160whp. What is the big differance from running the JRSC and the turbo kit?
the aj-kit put down 146whp according to their dyno. benefits of a SC over a turbo? None of the heat issues, dont have to tap the oil pan, street legal (AJ is working on a emissions kit) and no turbo lag when i upgrade to the 10lb kit i hope to hit 180whp
 
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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Hmm the 5PSI kit sounds right up my alley, when are they going to be available, and how hard will the install be? Is this something that will need to be "tuned" after installed, or does it just work efficiently after bolting it on?
 
Old Aug 5, 2007 | 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JDMchris.com
the aj-kit put down 146whp according to their dyno. benefits of a SC over a turbo? None of the heat issues, dont have to tap the oil pan, street legal (AJ is working on a emissions kit) and no turbo lag when i upgrade to the 10lb kit i hope to hit 180whp
180whp? Is that on stock internals? Also are you gonna be tuned and have all the fuel upgrades?
 
Old Aug 5, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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180whp? Is that on stock internals? Also are you gonna be tuned and have all the fuel upgrades?
yup will be on stock internals and should be perfectly fine. It shouldnt need to be tuned, but i might have the oscars check it just in case.
 
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 01:52 AM
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god..that is going to be so sick. I can not wait...I was thinking about doing some minor bolt ons. But now...im gonna save it for the jrsc. Im definately feeling the 10lb. kit...but may have to stick to 5 depending on the amount of dough these bad boys will cost. Im sure its been answered already in these postings (too lazy to search..)...but what would be the difficutly rating for passing emissions and stuff with the 10lb.? What EXACTLY would have to be done? And did i mention how sick the honda fit would be with the 10lb. kit? Chris...your one lucky guy right about now.
 
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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10lb kit wouldnt pass at all. Only way to get it to pass is illegally. you will have bigger injectors to feed the motor which is basically the main reason it wont pass.
 
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in hotter/higher thin air, they naturally spin faster, achieving about the same level of boost.
Hotter air equals less boost and slower spool up.
 
Old Aug 6, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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I wonder how hard it is to find friendly smog shops, given the popularity of mods here in California. A modified Fit surely can't be worse than the monster sport cars and trucks around here.
 

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