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If you need more bass up front, I found a space saving solution

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Old 09-29-2016, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by overslept View Post
If by "nontraditional" you mean with the subwoofer in a non-central location, it sounds awesome. I used to drive my parents' '08 Civic Coupe with the factory-built subwoofer on the rear deck, and this hits harder and cleaner. I don't have much to compare it to, but this is the subwoofer you're looking for. No doubt. It doesn't hold a candle to my friend's 2x 12" boxes in his Mustang, but I have all my trunk space, and in the Fit, that means everything. Built-in amp, too.

And yeah, I scored on the 5-speed OrangeBurst Metallic. I just got it about a month and a half ago, 26k miles, very clean. It had a lien on it and the seller listed on CL for 11k firm. In California!
By non-traditional I meant more the speaker design. It has those small sideways pushing woofers pushing towards the passenger and the driver door instead of 8" round woofer pushing up into the bottom of your seat like found in the Alpine or rockford fosgates.

Now dont get me wrong I'm not expecting window shattering bass...but I want to feel the bass where there should be bass during a song...currently the factory speakers are lacking for sure.
 
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Old 09-29-2016, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by shinjari View Post
By non-traditional I meant more the speaker design. It has those small sideways pushing woofers pushing towards the passenger and the driver door instead of 8" round woofer pushing up into the bottom of your seat like found in the Alpine or rockford fosgates.

Now dont get me wrong I'm not expecting window shattering bass...but I want to feel the bass where there should be bass during a song...currently the factory speakers are lacking for sure.
Oh, the "HVT," there's really no way for me to tell if it's any "better" than a traditional design... maybe it produces higher decibels using lower power, maybe it reduces vibration, maybe it's what allowed the subwoofer to be this compact, maybe it's just a gimmick.

I strongly feel that to the trained ear, this subwoofer sounds the same as a "traditional" subwoofer. It sure feels like the bass is being directed through the seat and into my butt, but maybe that's just because I have it cranked so high all the time. My girlfriend says she can feel the vibrations in her seat, too. Logic tells me that it's better for the sound to be emitted horizontally rather than being muted going through a seat, but YMMV.

The first thing I noticed when I tried the stock audio system was the lack of bass, it wasn't significant, but it was there. The stock audio is really really good. I'm pretty sure it was enough to rattle my mirror as well. My EQ is +4 bass and +6 treble I think and it definitely sounds like the bass is coming from underneath rather than through the doors like it used to.

It's less than $200 and it makes driving any distance 10x more pleasurable, for me at least. If I haven't sold you on it yet then you might want to get the Alpine! I just needed to know 100% that whatever underseat subwoofer I got would fit, and this fits AND sounds great.
 
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Old 12-30-2016, 06:36 PM
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Hi Shinjari,

Have you bought the under seat sub yet? if yes, which one you end up buying?
I hope it's the Alpine just so I can confirm the Alpine fits under the stock seat

Anyway,
over the past few days, I had been concentrating on doing research for my upcoming audio system upgrade,
here are copy and paste of my personal summary note of what I think a good candidate and good specs for under seat sub-woofer:

Alpine PWE-S8 Dimension: 340 mm (13-7/16”) x 70 mm (2-13/16”) x 230 mm (9-1/16”) 3-inches deep (at deepest point) enclosure is made from Cast Metal, 120Watt RMS Frequency Response: 25Hz – 152Hz
Alpine is first choice among all powered under seat sub if it fit becausethe cabinet from Cast Metal and lower Frequency Response than JBL BassPro SL

plus almost 2 times the RMS wattage compare to the Pioneer
TS-WH500A .

or JBL BassPro SL
Dimensions (L x W x H): 13-9/16" x 9-7/8" x 2-13/16" (344mm x 250mm x 71mm) but enclosure is made from ABS Plastic, 125Watt RMS, Frequency Response: 35Hz – 120Hz
or Kenwood KSC-SW11 Dimension (W) 11" x (H)2-3/4"( 69.85mm) x (D)7-1/2"

or if space under seat is still not enough then:
For Pioneer brand,

First choice would be Pioneer TS-WH500A because it have 300grams x 2 Strontium Magnet,
it also goes lower in Frequency Response compare to the other Pioneer under seat sub TS-WX120A.
Pioneer TS-WH500A Enclosure size: (WxDxH): 340mm x 250mm x 60mm
enclosure is made of High-Density Compound Resin
70Watt RMS, Frequency Response: 20 – 200Hz

Second Choice for Pioneer Brand:

Pioneer TS-WX120A because it is taller and only single 484grams Strontium Magnet, Frequency Response is not as low as the above Pioneer.
Pioneer TS-WX120A Enclosure size: (WxDxH): 280mm 11"x 200mm 7-7/8" x 70mm 2-3/4", enclosure is made of High-Density Compound Resin
70Watt RMS, Frequency Response: 30 – 160Hz
 

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Old 01-03-2017, 10:57 AM
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Yeah I haven't had the time or funds to pursue this project more. I wish I could find one locally to try. Would hate to order online then have to return. My concern is the height. there isn't much space under the seat to begin with. I want it to tuck enough so the rear passenger is still comfy and isn't kicking the $#!T out of the sub.

Also your reasoning is the same as mine. I want the alpine due to the better freq response.
 
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Old 01-04-2017, 05:48 AM
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good information 👍🏽
 
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Old 05-24-2017, 05:56 AM
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Simply genius and can come in very handy. As said above there are a few tweaks that could be made to make it work better but all-in-all brilliant
 
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Old 05-24-2017, 04:58 PM
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Nightscreams...I just ordered one today through Amazon. Any reason you installed the Pioneer in that direction? From your photos...it looks like you installed with the length side facing between the plastic supports of the seat. Can it also have fit length wise under the seat so it's hidden a little better or is this not possible in trying to keep the seat still movable?
 
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Old 05-24-2017, 05:08 PM
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Also...have you had any problems with the airbag lights coming on because of the bass produced?
 
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Old 05-24-2017, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BMW ALPINA View Post
Wow, that is cheaper then Amazon !
Thanks
They get cheaper as you scroll through
Pioneer TS-WH500A 150 W HVT 8 1/4" Sealed Active Subwoofer 884938274234 | eBay
 
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Old 05-24-2017, 07:27 PM
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I got mine for $165.85 on Amazon.
 
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Old 05-24-2017, 07:41 PM
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I believe the way he has it mounted is the least invasive way to install. Its roughly 13.5" x 10".

Also the area under the front seats is not as flat and deep as you'd expect. Plus there is a floor vent there for the passengers feet. So unless you intend to remove the floor vent, you can really only mount this sub in that orientation.

Let us know what you think when you get it. Coming from a pretty hefty 12" sub...I find it hard to believe a 8.25" will be sufficient for me...maybe I need (2)? Lol.

I'm actually considering these https://www.crutchfield.com/p_206CWR....html?tp=70205 for my rear doors. Get (2), a mono amp and boom (pun intended). They should be shallow enough for the door. I will verify sometime...
 

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Old 06-03-2017, 02:36 PM
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Just ordered one for Foxy.
 
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Old 07-02-2017, 03:22 AM
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Really looking into getting the pioneer; how would you go about installing it?
@minminmusic @overslept
 
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Old 04-24-2018, 04:37 AM
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bump. just bought, don't know how to install :|
 
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:33 PM
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I just completed the install of a Kicker HS8 Powered Subwoofer in hatch area of my 2018 Fit EX. The unit was priced at $184 at Amazon.
I liked the supplied Velcro mounting straps that provide a quick way to remove the unit, if I ever needed to. Really, though, I doubt that will be often.
The low profile unit fits pretty well again the driver's side wall up against the hatch back seat. I found the driver's side had a larger flat mounting area and using the center and front strap dents on the unit keeps it quite tight and stable.
The installation took about 4 hours and I removed the front seats to ease the installation - might not be necessary for those of you more skilled than I.
I removed the center pillar trim and tapped into the read door speaker wires in the main wire loom - they are the pink and blue twisted pair.
I ran the power wire up the drivers side kick panels and out to the battery through the main rubber firewall boot near the steering wheel boot.
I mounted the remote bass control unit inside the center console.
This unit lives up to its name. It's just what I needed to enhance the factory speaker enough for me to be happy without investing a lot of money. Love it.
Driver's side hatch mount
Center console mount of bass control
 
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Old 09-22-2018, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by snowbuzz View Post
I just completed the install of a Kicker HS8 Powered Subwoofer in hatch area of my 2018 Fit EX. The unit was priced at $184 at Amazon.
I liked the supplied Velcro mounting straps that provide a quick way to remove the unit, if I ever needed to. Really, though, I doubt that will be often.
The low profile unit fits pretty well again the driver's side wall up against the hatch back seat. I found the driver's side had a larger flat mounting area and using the center and front strap dents on the unit keeps it quite tight and stable.
The installation took about 4 hours and I removed the front seats to ease the installation - might not be necessary for those of you more skilled than I.
I removed the center pillar trim and tapped into the read door speaker wires in the main wire loom - they are the pink and blue twisted pair.
I ran the power wire up the drivers side kick panels and out to the battery through the main rubber firewall boot near the steering wheel boot.
I mounted the remote bass control unit inside the center console.
This unit lives up to its name. It's just what I needed to enhance the factory speaker enough for me to be happy without investing a lot of money. Love it.
Driver's side hatch mount
Center console mount of bass control
Thought I would update since my last post, I recently considered this one as a potential upgrade over the Pioneer but started experimenting with Clark Synthesis Tactile Transducers. These are more commonly popular with home theater enthusiasts but found they are very musical in a car and since these are basically bone induction for bass, they sound much deeper than the under seat sub and can feel 20 x's the bass. When not sitting on the drivers seat which it's attached to, you can't hear anything. Seems to be a worthy SPL alternative and would likely serve better to augment a small sub like that Kicker hideaway.

I took out the Pioneer and ordered a Rockville 10" under seat sub instead of the Kicker because it's only $120 and is CEA certified for 200 watts RMS which I think it's the only under seat sub to be CEA certified and plus I just felt like experimenting with something new. If nothing else I may put it in the trunk and with the Transducer attached to my seat should augment it much better. I would keep the Pioneer but with only 50 watts, it could use more power though it's not bad for what it is, I may find a use for it somewhere else eventually.
 
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