fog phobia

irrational fear, obsessive fear, dread, horror, terror, hatred, loathing, detestation, aversion, antipathy, revulsion; complex, neurosis; hang-up.

Peace be with you, friends. Don't worry, it's o.k. to try the fog lights when nobody's looking. It's o.k... there, there.

e.b.

 

ok...why do some cars have daytime running lights? its not dark during the day? just like the op said why run "fog" lights when there is no "fog"...so why run daytime running lights? cause it makes a car more visible (at least thats what some automakers say)...i dont think that this is that big of a deal seeing that the fog lights are aimed down at the road shining light directly in front of the car...you can see this if you turn them on and off at night while driving on a dark road...i think the aggrivating thing about it is that a person feels like since "he" dosent do it then no one should.

 

i think daytimes are mostly for Canada because of the tunnels and bunch of trees and stuff, just too lazy to turn off for american cars?

 

People turning on their fog lights at night never affected my visibility when driving although I do kinda roll my eyes when I see them sometimes. If I were to make a thread to alert people to stop doing something, it would be to stop using your cell phones while driving!!! And the loud music!! Do they not care for the well being of their ears?! I don't like being subjected shitty music with bass even when I have my windows up .\/.

I think I need to switch my profession and make a killing as an ear doctor.

 

I dont see anything wrong with having fog lights on at night. It doesn't blind anyone and it is for extra visibility for things that are near the front of the car. It also may help some car notice your car at night OR during the day while driving (safety). As long as you are being considerate and it isnt blinding anyone, the more light on the road the better. I dont see a big deal if someone wants to run then even if they want to be cool. It helps me see them while I am driving.

As long as they dont run just their fog lights at night without their headlights...now that is annoying!

 

Hey, it's winter, it's raining, it's gray. My lights are on...fogs too.

 

News flash, Honda dealerships in Canada are a huge rip off.

QFT!

 

Usually if not all DTRL (day..time...R..L...) are either lower capacity or just normal healamps. But now it goes back to then if you dont have fogs then maybe one could run with brights on durring the day....yes...no?

If I remember correctly the DTRL went both ways..."on" all the time so people also wouldnt forget to use them when weather or condtions changed...
And some dashes lit up when they were on and people forgot to actually turn on the "real" lights when appropriate.

That last part is something I can understand...although I dont know if thats the point he is making...
I am sadened when people take heavy offense at another view...and attack inapropriately...which is why I like FitFreak cuz it has less of that

 

I believe the point that has been made here is that fog lights, particularly on the Fit, are unique and useful, because they are not blinding, because they are aimed low, way below where they would possibly aim at another driver's eyes. They are functional, provide enhanced visibility and safety for everybody, and at the same time do not impose on other drivers.

Brights, a.k.a. high beams, are simply not the same. They are aimed high, designed to illuminate farther, and should not be used when there is any oncoming traffic, or when anyone is in front of your car, because they are blinding to other drivers, because they are aimed right up at the level where most drivers keep their heads, which coincidentally, is smack dab right in the eyes !

The best solution to help illuminate and enlighten, if you do not feel you have enough illumination coming out of your headlights, is to get some fog lights, or use them if you have them, for the benefits of fog lights, without the trade-off of high beams.

On the Fit in particular, the fog lights are not blinding at all. Possibly other cars have fog lights and other lights that impose on the vision of other drivers, but since this is a Fit forum, let's stick to the facts here about the Honda Fit.

Can you drive your Fit, equipped with fog lights, with fog lights on, more safely, with more visibility, with due consideration for the other drivers on the road ? Yes, you can. That is the design, that is what it is.

If you don't have fog lights to use, those of us who do, and use them, truly sympathize for you. Take a drive in a Fit that does, use those fog lights, and maybe you will understand.

Peace.

e.b.

 

1st sorry to quote the whole thingy (Im toast right now)
-The Fits lights especially the fogs are unique...few things are more true...
-The Fits fogs can definately reduce other drivers visibility...earlier this evening I drove my dads vehicle (have to run it, it has be sitting way to long now...he's out of the country) so I turned on my Fits fogs and drove towards it and away... from close by to across the street. (conditions were...raining lightly...dark.....yes it rained in Cali ) and wow! It was a significant distraction when the fogs were on! much more scattered light on the ground and in the face (not a ton in the face but a ton everywhere else....
-They were damn sexy though!!!!! Ahh yes the price we pay for vanity
-The Fits fogs I guess are kinda more like aux's than fogs in many ways but in many ways they are perfectly suited for fog mostly wide and thin and super low...but even then light has a funny way of following the laws of physics...it still spreads...
-so anotherwords of course it imposes on other drivers...just because some dont think so or some love them or just think they are absurd...
-remember "Hondas" new theme saftey for everyone? If it was such a safety issue the base and "all" their vehicles would have them... can't buy a non airbag equiped fit in the states (or anywhere else? now? idunno?) The same goes for brighter headlights...no its not the perfect rational...but its something to chew on...

 

lol, I knew somebody was going to call me on it;

When you visibility gets reduced to 10 feet or less, if you use your headlights you get a bright white cloud that basically changes your view distance to about... well if you can see your hood your doing well.

With the absense of headlamps in this specific situation ONLY and use of yellow, properly aligned fog lights you can increase your distance to about 20 or 30 feet, maybe more. The theory is you can bounce light under the fog/snow and the yellow color will give you depth perception so you can make out road lines. Your speed should be reduced to a slow crawl, dips, rises and bumps are not really an issue at these speeds. You should be ensuring your parking lights are on in case other people come up from behind.

This is a pretty specific situation, the idea is you can get yourself to safety in near zero visibility situations. I have hit fog and snow this thick on occasion along the Roger's pass. But please don't misunderstand this and go using only your fog lights if there is a slight mist in the air!

 

We don't all live in the boonies you know

Daytime running lights are a goverment requirement of all cars here, there is signifigent research that shows it makes vehicals more visibile and may contribute to a reduced accident rate. In fact one of the best 3rd party studies was done by Avis whiched showed a 64% reduction in car damages, and a 69% decrease in repair costs for cars equipped with DRLs.

There are arguements against DRL's, but at least in Canada the ambient light in the winter is less and it is very noticible when you see an imported US car with no DRL's.

Anyway, getting back to the main topic. I really don't see an issue with the foggies. If they are aimed correctly they shouldn't blind anybody and they only serve to make the vehical more visibile. With all the other crap (such as improper use of high beams, brighter HID's aimed wrong, people on cell phones, superbright LED tail lamps, ect) I don't think this should be a focus for improving safety. Any FIT I have ever seen with foggies on has never blinded me... yet nearly every FORD truck that comes up behind me with improperly aimed headlamps makes it so I can barely see.

 

[quote=Sugarphreak;217003]lol, I knew somebody was going to call me on it;

aahaaaaHAHAHAAH that made me smile very funny.
Hey you know what I really hate? When I reread something I wrote when I was quoted, as I have found that I need to "proof read" alot more...its embarrasing geeez...
anywho moving on...
I keep forgetting that many of your FitFreakers live in canada! Just like how some people forget there is a bunch of us in Cali...hahaaaaa...
so my point is...I never remember that its darker by you guys when its winter!

k...slightly off topic... when I was between 8-12 (elementary school - middle school also known as 20-16yrs ago-ish *sniffle* *sniffle*)
"we" as in "southbay" used to get fog that you could only see the half a car length infront of you, and that would be quite often!!! We still get fog alot but never (ok... insanely rare) is it that intense anymore. (All you peeps in PV and Pedro...shut yo mouth )! Kinda bums me out...I hated being driven in it and driving in it...but I loved just being in it!

We have not had any (atleast since I got the Fit and have been able to drive it only occassionally) fog....I am dying to see how well they work in the fog. My old '01 Civic was not that good in the fog..."not good" as in either pull over or pray!

 

I did the foglight mod specifically so I could run mine all the time, even in the day. I don't think I've turned mine off since I bought the car lol

So, I guess I am "that" guy.
and if I look like a "pillock", whatever that is, that's fine by me. I've been called worse lol

 

acording to my mac a pillock is "a stupid person"...
dont worry im a pillock too, my fogs are on all the time too

 

PILLOCKS UNITE!! lol

 

All the time = only when headlights are on?
All the time = only during driving, even during the day, headlights off?
All the time = even when your car is off and your'e in your house posting on this site?

 

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I drive at night with my fogs on 100% of the time. It helps me see the ground better immediately in front of me and gives me an added sense of safety because of it. Unless you've tinkered with your fog lights there is no chance they will blind people for having them on at any time.

 

Agreed. And mine are set up to run even with the headlights and parking lights off. Sort of like daytime running lights. Everyone I hang out with can recognize the car, obviously because it's a Fit, and they're aren't too many around here yet, and because my yellow fogs are always on.