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#41
Your Fit is 2880lbs, is that with the K series and MT installed? When do you think she'll be good to go?
Are you doing this or are you having a shop do the wrenching/labor?
What Compressor/Turbine are you going to go with?
A MHI TD05 or TD06 turbine wheel matched to an E3-16G or 18G compressor would easily flow enough for 350whp, meet your 3500rpm spool requirement, and have plenty of room to grow. GT28 or more likely a GT30R in a .48A/R open or a comparable T3 divided hotside would be pretty slick too, but much more expensive.
They are also cheap and reliable as hell. Would recommend running a water line to them as you would with a BB Garrett unit though..
What manifold is in this pic BTW? That is on an L15A it looks like:
Last edited by DiamondStarMonsters; 10-27-2010 at 06:06 PM.
#42
Your Fit is 2880lbs, is that with the K series and MT installed? When do you think she'll be good to go?
Are you doing this or are you having a shop do the wrenching/labor?
What Compressor/Turbine are you going to go with?
A MHI TD05 or TD06 turbine wheel matched to an E3-16G or 18G compressor would easily flow enough for 350whp, meet your 3500rpm spool requirement, and have plenty of room to grow. GT28 or more likely a GT30R in a .48A/R open or a comparable T3 divided hotside would be pretty slick too, but much more expensive.
They are also cheap and reliable as hell. Would recommend running a water line to them as you would with a BB Garrett unit though..
What manifold is in this pic BTW? That is on an L15A it looks like:
Are you doing this or are you having a shop do the wrenching/labor?
What Compressor/Turbine are you going to go with?
A MHI TD05 or TD06 turbine wheel matched to an E3-16G or 18G compressor would easily flow enough for 350whp, meet your 3500rpm spool requirement, and have plenty of room to grow. GT28 or more likely a GT30R in a .48A/R open or a comparable T3 divided hotside would be pretty slick too, but much more expensive.
They are also cheap and reliable as hell. Would recommend running a water line to them as you would with a BB Garrett unit though..
What manifold is in this pic BTW? That is on an L15A it looks like:
i am going with a Garrett T3/t4 for now cuz i have one sitting around and need to car running....i will prob go with a turbonetics GTK350
#47
mine weights so much cuz i have metal wide fenders, full sound system, 2 air tanks, 2 air compressors, all the air ride equipments, full hard wood floors in the trunk...so 28XX lbs sounds pretty close
#48
i wanna run meth just so i can push 350whp on stock motor and be safe with it.
but i have no room for those equipments so i'll see if i can make room or not...try to fit it.
as for turbo, at the moment i got a Garrett t3/t4 sitting around the shop, i'll make the car run for now with that...then going with Turbonetics GTK 350
94Oct. pump gas !
#51
i wanna run meth just so i can push 350whp on stock motor and be safe with it.
but i have no room for those equipments so i'll see if i can make room or not...try to fit it.
as for turbo, at the moment i got a Garrett t3/t4 sitting around the shop, i'll make the car run for now with that...then going with Turbonetics GTK 350
94Oct. pump gas !
but i have no room for those equipments so i'll see if i can make room or not...try to fit it.
as for turbo, at the moment i got a Garrett t3/t4 sitting around the shop, i'll make the car run for now with that...then going with Turbonetics GTK 350
94Oct. pump gas !
Well you have a couple options if you are tight on space both Devils Own and Snow Performance have some really compact simple solutions. I too have a thing for meth and have found that in most applications you can tuck the pump in a fenderwell or on the firewall, and the tank, which is usually atleast a gallon cell, can also go in a fenderwell.
The Snow Performance kit on my Laser is set up this way, with the gallon reservoir mounted up by the filter for my pre-turbo intake pipe and if you look closely in this picture you can see the computer is zip-tied to the reservoir on my old setup:
You can see them both directly to the left of my coolant catch can and the blue blow off valve.
And when you say 94 octane you mean 94RON right?
This is the compressor map for the GTK350, according to Turbonetics you have 2.170" or ~55mm compressor inducer or about the same size as a GT3576R
To flow enough for 350whp you are going to need like 38lbs/min of airflow, and to do that on the GTK350, at sea-level that is only going to require about 25psi on a 2.0L @ ~90%VE.
What that means is 25psi @ 38lbs/min you are sitting in the middle of the big sweet spot, the 78% compressor efficiency island. You might be able to do it without meth injection, but meth would be a good insurance policy.
It would be worth making the room for it though, it looks that you could turn the boost as high as 32-33psi and flow ~42lbs/min which would be like 390whp, and still be in the 76% efficiency island.
As long as you have enough fuel and a free flowing intake and exhaust this should be no problem with a GTK350 with a proper sized turbine housing and a well maintained 2.0 K-series.
Is this a divided T3 turbine side?
#52
At the cost of reliability and streetability having to wind it out real high.
300whp is definitely doable NA... but why if you have the option? More stress and less torque.
300whp is definitely doable NA... but why if you have the option? More stress and less torque.
#53
and by going turbo...there are more to show
#54
And I mean if you're going turbo..at least go for 400 whp
#55
Maybe this is the route he wants to go for his goals.
It also happens to be less stressful on the engine than an all out 300whp NA 2.0 that has no torque and less area under the curve with the bulk of it at the top of the rev range.
His car weighs ~2900lbs, the torque and where it is available will make all the difference. This is a street car remember? One he intends to DD.
#57
What is the difference in the mounts for AT and MT?? I emailed hasport like a week ago and they told me their mounts will work in my AT fit sport as long as I am swapping in a manual k swap.. They also said they can do my engine harness for me too.. Just have to send them a stock k harness and stock fit harness +ecu. Please lmk before I buy stuff that won't end up working. Thanks
#58
What is the difference in the mounts for AT and MT?? I emailed hasport like a week ago and they told me their mounts will work in my AT fit sport as long as I am swapping in a manual k swap.. They also said they can do my engine harness for me too.. Just have to send them a stock k harness and stock fit harness +ecu. Please lmk before I buy stuff that won't end up working. Thanks
the AT mounts are completely different then MT, thats why Innovative sells MT specific kit for MT cars
Hasport mounts are for MT only
Hasport engine harness is way too expensive $1400usd in labour + $200 for RSX Harness + $200 for MT Fit Harness
so here is my solution
Hybird Racing Universal Race harness + RSX Type S engine harness, FORGET about stock cluster...i am going with RacePack IQ3 digital cluster.
it will look cool and will be cheaper !
#59
the AT mounts are completely different then MT, thats why Innovative sells MT specific kit for MT cars
Hasport mounts are for MT only
Hasport engine harness is way too expensive $1400usd in labour + $200 for RSX Harness + $200 for MT Fit Harness
so here is my solution
Hybird Racing Universal Race harness + RSX Type S engine harness, FORGET about stock cluster...i am going with RacePack IQ3 digital cluster.
it will look cool and will be cheaper !
Hasport mounts are for MT only
Hasport engine harness is way too expensive $1400usd in labour + $200 for RSX Harness + $200 for MT Fit Harness
so here is my solution
Hybird Racing Universal Race harness + RSX Type S engine harness, FORGET about stock cluster...i am going with RacePack IQ3 digital cluster.
it will look cool and will be cheaper !
Do you guys really think a 300whp NA K20 would be alot for the engine? If I go the K route I was thinking of keeping it NA for simpisity and would like to see 250-300whp. The engine stock makes 200whp and I dint think it would be that hard to extrack another 50-100whp.