rear strut tower bar functionality (does it really make a difference?)
I think the best bar for this area of the car is the Cusco, but from the design it seems it'd take a lot of stress at the red arrows. If it'd be reinforced with a couple of bolts to the car where the red circles are, it'd be perfect.
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When I first got my strut bars, I got the Tanabe front and rear strut bars, I "think" I did feel a difference. Whether it did make a difference or not, I believe it was very minimal, and I wouldn't mind, cuz at least it looks good.
Made my car probably feel stiffer, but it understeered a bit more, prob cuz the body cannot flex. But anyways, I recently had to take off my strutbar due to it blocking my cargo space (the Tanabe one bolts on top of the rear dampers;shocks).
Anyways, Im deciding whether or not I should put it back on due to space. My question is, would a C-pillar bar do anything, like make up for not having a rear strut bar?
Ima drive my car a little more without the rear strutbar to figure if it really does make a diff or not again.
Made my car probably feel stiffer, but it understeered a bit more, prob cuz the body cannot flex. But anyways, I recently had to take off my strutbar due to it blocking my cargo space (the Tanabe one bolts on top of the rear dampers;shocks).
Anyways, Im deciding whether or not I should put it back on due to space. My question is, would a C-pillar bar do anything, like make up for not having a rear strut bar?
Ima drive my car a little more without the rear strutbar to figure if it really does make a diff or not again.
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From: never never land
it is a reinforcement bar
the "strut" in strut bar actually means something
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NO such thing as a "rear strut bar" on a honda fit
strut bar is NOT a single word
it is a bar
like monkey bars not monkey strut bars
like barbells not strut barbells
a bar that reinforces 2 struts is called a strut bar, the rear of the fit HAS NO STRUTS
strut bar is NOT a single word
it is a bar
like monkey bars not monkey strut bars
like barbells not strut barbells
a bar that reinforces 2 struts is called a strut bar, the rear of the fit HAS NO STRUTS
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if u actually understood the difference between a strut and a shock u will come to the obvious conclusion that a "shock" bar is quite useless and quite possibly detrimental
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Yes I am in sales, and I dont need to be a mechanic. I have been discussing this product with a few people and from our discussions, just like kenchan said, When put on a stock car you get the "Feeling" of better cornering, but when you really Setup your suspension it actually makes it worse. You no longer are able to attain a "Nuetral steer". A car that oversteers too much is like a car that understeers too much. NOT GOOD. A Nuetral steering car is where you want to be, But that is just simply unattainable with a rear swaybar. I also Emailed Progress about how their product works, and I received some mediocre response with a one sentence explanation of "It stiffens the torsion beam". Please dont discredit me simply because I sell cars, I know what I am doing. Like I said I knew I would get flamed for this, so I knew I would get negative responses. Im sure we can sit here and argue all day and argue about yes they do work or no they dont, just like the strutbar threads.
I think most people r confused.
the fit DOES NOT HAVE REAR STRUTS therefore it is NOT a rear strut brace
the fit ONLY HAS STRUTS ON THE FRONT
struts r structural AND they dampen the springs
if u remove the front struts the wheels will flop about and not hold their geometry
if u remove the rear dampers u can still drive the car just fine (it may be a little bouncy)
notice how i called them "dampers" NOT "shocks"
the springs absorb the "shocks" of the road
the gas and oil filled tubes "dampen" the oscillations of the springs and absorb NO SHOCKS
the fit DOES NOT HAVE REAR STRUTS therefore it is NOT a rear strut brace
the fit ONLY HAS STRUTS ON THE FRONT
struts r structural AND they dampen the springs
if u remove the front struts the wheels will flop about and not hold their geometry
if u remove the rear dampers u can still drive the car just fine (it may be a little bouncy)
notice how i called them "dampers" NOT "shocks"
the springs absorb the "shocks" of the road
the gas and oil filled tubes "dampen" the oscillations of the springs and absorb NO SHOCKS
.....huh?
i though that shocks/dampers was an interchangeable term. how can you drive a fit without dampers?
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I think most people r confused.
the fit DOES NOT HAVE REAR STRUTS therefore it is NOT a rear strut brace
the fit ONLY HAS STRUTS ON THE FRONT
struts r structural AND they dampen the springs
if u remove the front struts the wheels will flop about and not hold their geometry
if u remove the rear dampers u can still drive the car just fine (it may be a little bouncy)
notice how i called them "dampers" NOT "shocks"
the springs absorb the "shocks" of the road
the gas and oil filled tubes "dampen" the oscillations of the springs and absorb NO SHOCKS
the fit DOES NOT HAVE REAR STRUTS therefore it is NOT a rear strut brace
the fit ONLY HAS STRUTS ON THE FRONT
struts r structural AND they dampen the springs
if u remove the front struts the wheels will flop about and not hold their geometry
if u remove the rear dampers u can still drive the car just fine (it may be a little bouncy)
notice how i called them "dampers" NOT "shocks"
the springs absorb the "shocks" of the road
the gas and oil filled tubes "dampen" the oscillations of the springs and absorb NO SHOCKS
A strut is a combined suspension part with the shock as seen on Fit fronts (Mcpherson the popularizer of struts says in his 'patent' for Ford). The Fit has struts in front and just shocks in the rear. Dampers are exactly the same as shocks; just England vs the world.
When most people talk about strut braces they are really talking about strut or shock TOWER braces. When you apply severe lateral forces on the struts mainly but also shocks/dampers braces will help maintain suspension geometery by holding the top of the tower in place. (they will move if enough lateral force is applied at the wheel).
They do nothing for Fits except add cute. Now if we had a 300 hp Fit, aks the Focus RS, braces would be good.
A strut is a combined suspension part with the shock as seen on Fit fronts (Mcpherson the popularizer of struts says in his 'patent' for Ford). The Fit has struts in front and just shocks in the rear. Dampers are exactly the same as shocks; just England vs the world.
When most people talk about strut braces they are really talking about strut or shock TOWER braces. When you apply severe lateral forces on the struts mainly but also shocks/dampers braces will help maintain suspension geometery by holding the top of the tower in place. (they will move if enough lateral force is applied at the wheel).
They do nothing for Fits except add cute. Now if we had a 300 hp Fit, aks the Focus RS, braces would be good.
When most people talk about strut braces they are really talking about strut or shock TOWER braces. When you apply severe lateral forces on the struts mainly but also shocks/dampers braces will help maintain suspension geometery by holding the top of the tower in place. (they will move if enough lateral force is applied at the wheel).
They do nothing for Fits except add cute. Now if we had a 300 hp Fit, aks the Focus RS, braces would be good.
thanks for clearing that up mahout. posts like his are what keeps the fit community scratching their heads and newbies clueless.
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