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^ helps huge... i need to wait a few weeks before i can pull the trigger to order, so if you get to it first lmk...
you don't need to teflon tape the threads on these do you?
i've heard about the 2.0 cam swap... just never had the balls to do it... our engine bays are even more cramped than the neon's and it makes changing cams a chore... i may do it when i have to change my timing belt while i'm in there... did you only do the exhaust cam? from what i've heard that's the only one that's worth it...
i've had the top-end modifier for a while now... i was surprised what a small piece like that could do for the top end... i was happily surprised!
do you know of anyone good/reliable that you would recommend to get a custom dsp tune from? i need some sensor rescales and a wga duty cycle rescale...
you don't need to teflon tape the threads on these do you?
i've heard about the 2.0 cam swap... just never had the balls to do it... our engine bays are even more cramped than the neon's and it makes changing cams a chore... i may do it when i have to change my timing belt while i'm in there... did you only do the exhaust cam? from what i've heard that's the only one that's worth it...
i've had the top-end modifier for a while now... i was surprised what a small piece like that could do for the top end... i was happily surprised!
do you know of anyone good/reliable that you would recommend to get a custom dsp tune from? i need some sensor rescales and a wga duty cycle rescale...
I did both intake and exhaust on the cam swap in my driveway, from what I remember it was very easy, no problem with space. I had unorthodox cam gears and it had been well documented what to set them at. I don't remember now what that was tho sorry...
I would not use the teflon, it is not needed IMO.
I notice that when I depress the clutch at idle, the change in sound that occurs from the throwout bearing being engaged is not instant. There is a weird delay that you can hear. Is this the delay valve/damper at work?
lcq -
so i recently came into some money... so i think imma do this...
q's:
-how do you prevent the master cylinder from spewing clutch fluid while the lines are being disconnected? depress and hold the clutch in? or nothing?
-where is the bleed valve for the clutch so i can bleed it after the line change?
so i recently came into some money... so i think imma do this...
q's:
-how do you prevent the master cylinder from spewing clutch fluid while the lines are being disconnected? depress and hold the clutch in? or nothing?
-where is the bleed valve for the clutch so i can bleed it after the line change?
You don't prevent it from spewing fluid. What I did was bled the clutch before starting, to get most of the fluid out of the reservoir, then disconnected the reservoir. I snaked it out, then bench bled the new one, disconnected the reservoir, plugged it, snaked it in, reconnected, bled again.
Then I bled it again, and again, and again, and again. It took a few times to get everything air-free.
Then I bled it again, and again, and again, and again. It took a few times to get everything air-free.
lcq -
so i recently came into some money... so i think imma do this...
q's:
-how do you prevent the master cylinder from spewing clutch fluid while the lines are being disconnected? depress and hold the clutch in? or nothing?
-where is the bleed valve for the clutch so i can bleed it after the line change?
so i recently came into some money... so i think imma do this...
q's:
-how do you prevent the master cylinder from spewing clutch fluid while the lines are being disconnected? depress and hold the clutch in? or nothing?
-where is the bleed valve for the clutch so i can bleed it after the line change?
^thanks
i might get a shorter length... but we'll see...
so in the parts list, you're going to run the 90* on the master cylinder, then brake line, then straight adapter onto the slave?
it looks like the slave has a male end... and the adapter has two males as well...
just trying to figure this out...
i might get a shorter length... but we'll see...
so in the parts list, you're going to run the 90* on the master cylinder, then brake line, then straight adapter onto the slave?
it looks like the slave has a male end... and the adapter has two males as well...
just trying to figure this out...
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If you look at the diagram I posted on the first page the stock master cylinder/hard line has an adapter that is male to female too. If you look at the Russell adapter fittings I posted above you will see they have different ends even though they are both male. This is because the master/slave cylinder use 10mm X 1.0 male end. The new line you will be running uses the -3AN end as this is how all of these lines are made. Whatever length of line you use is up to you, I have measured and the ideal length that I would use is 48" to follow along the firewall and onto the stock configuration along the block. The stock hardline that connects to the slave cylinder is at a 120 degree bend, so the extra 90 I put on the list will go there. There are 120 degree ends but at the minimum size of -6AN...

If you look at the diagram I posted on the first page the stock master cylinder/hard line has an adapter that is male to female too. If you look at the Russell adapter fittings I posted above you will see they have different ends even though they are both male. This is because the master/slave cylinder use 10mm X 1.0 male end. The new line you will be running uses the -3AN end as this is how all of these lines are made. Whatever length of line you use is up to you, I have measured and the ideal length that I would use is 48" to follow along the firewall and onto the stock configuration along the block. The stock hardline that connects to the slave cylinder is at a 120 degree bend, so the extra 90 I put on the list will go there. There are 120 degree ends but at the minimum size of -6AN...
One other thing to consider, if you were to go with male ended line is that you would be at the mercy of whatever angle the 90 degree ends end up when tightened down. With the adapters in place you should be able to line up the 90 at any position and tighten it down, making it better in this application IMO.
so you're doing:
master cylinder -> male/male adapter -> 90* coupler -> 90* end on brake line -> straight end on brake line -> slave cylinder
? is that right
or do you need another adapter between the straight end of the brake line and the slave?
master cylinder -> male/male adapter -> 90* coupler -> 90* end on brake line -> straight end on brake line -> slave cylinder
? is that right
or do you need another adapter between the straight end of the brake line and the slave?
alright yall... hold off on ordering the parts previously listed... the adapters are the wrong size...
the line and the 90* coupler should work fine, but the male-to-male russell adapters are too small for the adapters on the cylinders...
i have another option that i'm going to try but i don't want to post about it until i find out if it works or not... so be patient and we'll hopefully get a parts list put together that will make this work...
good news is that it's not all that hard to change the lines... if you are mechanically minded, and able to get creative in spots, it'll be pretty easy...
more later.
the line and the 90* coupler should work fine, but the male-to-male russell adapters are too small for the adapters on the cylinders...
i have another option that i'm going to try but i don't want to post about it until i find out if it works or not... so be patient and we'll hopefully get a parts list put together that will make this work...
good news is that it's not all that hard to change the lines... if you are mechanically minded, and able to get creative in spots, it'll be pretty easy...
more later.
Hi Scott,
did you succeed in removing the CDV? My car uses to judder when I release clutch in a shift quicker (or less slow) than usual... and clutch is not abused.
Any chance to get a revised part list?
Stefano
did you succeed in removing the CDV? My car uses to judder when I release clutch in a shift quicker (or less slow) than usual... and clutch is not abused.
Any chance to get a revised part list?
Stefano
i've ordered what i believe to be the correct adapter... but again, i don't want to put it out there until i've confirmed that it works correctly...
i too get that clutch shudder from time to time and just general pedal engagement and feel is crappy... hoping this will do the trick...
after this gets installed then i'll go in and adjust the pedal throw as well so it won't feel as high... but i want to wait until after b/c the ss line is going to change some things for sure...
i'm taking lots of pics and will update as soon as i can!
i too get that clutch shudder from time to time and just general pedal engagement and feel is crappy... hoping this will do the trick...
after this gets installed then i'll go in and adjust the pedal throw as well so it won't feel as high... but i want to wait until after b/c the ss line is going to change some things for sure...
i'm taking lots of pics and will update as soon as i can!
Oh, that would be great!!! That juddering worried me a bit and I'd like to cure it before starting the car inhalation improvements you depicted so well.
Thank you! (and of course +rep!)
Thank you! (and of course +rep!)
Last edited by jazzista; Jun 10, 2010 at 10:20 AM.



