Low Boost Turbo Fit
Low Boost Turbo Fit
Hello, so I had a project in mind for adding a little bit more hp/tq to this fun car and my idea consisted of running a Fmu with bigger injectors and no intercooler and hopefully push 6psi of boost on the stock ecu. Has anybody tried this method? The only source of information I’ve found was off of civics.
hopefully in the months to come I will hopefully have finished everything and hopefully be a stepping stone for anyone looking for a little extra power out of this grocery getter.
hopefully in the months to come I will hopefully have finished everything and hopefully be a stepping stone for anyone looking for a little extra power out of this grocery getter.
Probably means fuel management unit or something similar, like a piggyback ecu to add extra fuel.
OP, look in the GK engine section for homemade turbo, there's pictures from someone who put the turbo from a Civic directly onto the Fit cylinder head and used a Ktuner for fuel mapping. Said he did 7psi on stock injectors, but no dyno sheet.
I wouldn't skip the intercooler, though. Since you're having to run piping for the turbo anyways, it's not a lot of extra work and the lower intake temperature makes detonation less likely.
OP, look in the GK engine section for homemade turbo, there's pictures from someone who put the turbo from a Civic directly onto the Fit cylinder head and used a Ktuner for fuel mapping. Said he did 7psi on stock injectors, but no dyno sheet.
I wouldn't skip the intercooler, though. Since you're having to run piping for the turbo anyways, it's not a lot of extra work and the lower intake temperature makes detonation less likely.
Maybe the OP should state, just for clarity, which generation Fit they have.
The 1st gen had turbos, which are most likely unavailable now. Kraftworks, I believe.
2nd gen had Sprintex superchargers... can probably still find a few here and there.
3rd, I guess are the homemade ones that @hasdrubal mentioned... which you could also do with 1st and 2nd gen.
That said...
None of that actually mentions what will be generating said "boost." Even if "fmu" means a fuel management unit, it doesn't create boost, just controls fuel (as per the name). Bigger injectors similarly only affect fuel. While it can affect HP, that's not "boost" in relation to 6 psi. That's 'a boost' to HP, not simply "boost."
Honestly, to me, 6 psi doesn't sound like a lot. But realistically, I have a supercharger that generates around 7 psi. I doubt very much you can generate 6 psi (over atmosphere) without some physical method of actually compressing air. Last night I saw a video about an electric supercharger, that started at 6 psi in low rpm range and dropped to 2 psi at higher rpm... so again, what is the method you plan on creating "boost?"
The 1st gen had turbos, which are most likely unavailable now. Kraftworks, I believe.
2nd gen had Sprintex superchargers... can probably still find a few here and there.
3rd, I guess are the homemade ones that @hasdrubal mentioned... which you could also do with 1st and 2nd gen.
That said...
Hello, so I had a project in mind for adding a little bit more hp/tq to this fun car and my idea consisted of running a Fmu with bigger injectors and no intercooler and hopefully push 6psi of boost on the stock ecu. Has anybody tried this method? The only source of information I’ve found was off of civics.
hopefully in the months to come I will hopefully have finished everything and hopefully be a stepping stone for anyone looking for a little extra power out of this grocery getter.
hopefully in the months to come I will hopefully have finished everything and hopefully be a stepping stone for anyone looking for a little extra power out of this grocery getter.
Honestly, to me, 6 psi doesn't sound like a lot. But realistically, I have a supercharger that generates around 7 psi. I doubt very much you can generate 6 psi (over atmosphere) without some physical method of actually compressing air. Last night I saw a video about an electric supercharger, that started at 6 psi in low rpm range and dropped to 2 psi at higher rpm... so again, what is the method you plan on creating "boost?"
Probably means fuel management unit or something similar, like a piggyback ecu to add extra fuel.
OP, look in the GK engine section for homemade turbo, there's pictures from someone who put the turbo from a Civic directly onto the Fit cylinder head and used a Ktuner for fuel mapping. Said he did 7psi on stock injectors, but no dyno sheet.
I wouldn't skip the intercooler, though. Since you're having to run piping for the turbo anyways, it's not a lot of extra work and the lower intake temperature makes detonation less likely.
OP, look in the GK engine section for homemade turbo, there's pictures from someone who put the turbo from a Civic directly onto the Fit cylinder head and used a Ktuner for fuel mapping. Said he did 7psi on stock injectors, but no dyno sheet.
I wouldn't skip the intercooler, though. Since you're having to run piping for the turbo anyways, it's not a lot of extra work and the lower intake temperature makes detonation less likely.
Maybe the OP should state, just for clarity, which generation Fit they have.
The 1st gen had turbos, which are most likely unavailable now. Kraftworks, I believe.
2nd gen had Sprintex superchargers... can probably still find a few here and there.
3rd, I guess are the homemade ones that @hasdrubal mentioned... which you could also do with 1st and 2nd gen.
That said...
None of that actually mentions what will be generating said "boost." Even if "fmu" means a fuel management unit, it doesn't create boost, just controls fuel (as per the name). Bigger injectors similarly only affect fuel. While it can affect HP, that's not "boost" in relation to 6 psi. That's 'a boost' to HP, not simply "boost."
Honestly, to me, 6 psi doesn't sound like a lot. But realistically, I have a supercharger that generates around 7 psi. I doubt very much you can generate 6 psi (over atmosphere) without some physical method of actually compressing air. Last night I saw a video about an electric supercharger, that started at 6 psi in low rpm range and dropped to 2 psi at higher rpm... so again, what is the method you plan on creating "boost?"
The 1st gen had turbos, which are most likely unavailable now. Kraftworks, I believe.
2nd gen had Sprintex superchargers... can probably still find a few here and there.
3rd, I guess are the homemade ones that @hasdrubal mentioned... which you could also do with 1st and 2nd gen.
That said...
None of that actually mentions what will be generating said "boost." Even if "fmu" means a fuel management unit, it doesn't create boost, just controls fuel (as per the name). Bigger injectors similarly only affect fuel. While it can affect HP, that's not "boost" in relation to 6 psi. That's 'a boost' to HP, not simply "boost."
Honestly, to me, 6 psi doesn't sound like a lot. But realistically, I have a supercharger that generates around 7 psi. I doubt very much you can generate 6 psi (over atmosphere) without some physical method of actually compressing air. Last night I saw a video about an electric supercharger, that started at 6 psi in low rpm range and dropped to 2 psi at higher rpm... so again, what is the method you plan on creating "boost?"
Last edited by giwdly; Nov 26, 2019 at 11:17 AM.
Fuel Management Unit.
All it does is block fuel return flow so it forces more fuel through fuel injectors when it senses boost, but it’s not 100% reliable but it’ll do if you’re looking for low boost (10 psi and under!)
only videos you’ll really find online is on miatas and Honda Civics but every setup is essentially the same concept except for the “missing link” you might need but I will be trying it without one.
All it does is block fuel return flow so it forces more fuel through fuel injectors when it senses boost, but it’s not 100% reliable but it’ll do if you’re looking for low boost (10 psi and under!)
only videos you’ll really find online is on miatas and Honda Civics but every setup is essentially the same concept except for the “missing link” you might need but I will be trying it without one.
Maybe, instead of an FMU, try replacing the fuel pump with a higher flow one.
I had to do that on my setup because otherwise, I would constantly trip limp mode if I held high RPM for too long. While I did that, I ended up not using the piggyback that came with the setup as it fried itself. And I've been piggyback-less since. Also no limp, CEL, etc. that were related to it. The only CEL I got were when the spark plugs started chewing through the threads.
The factory ECU seems to handle the added air and pump quite well.
I had to do that on my setup because otherwise, I would constantly trip limp mode if I held high RPM for too long. While I did that, I ended up not using the piggyback that came with the setup as it fried itself. And I've been piggyback-less since. Also no limp, CEL, etc. that were related to it. The only CEL I got were when the spark plugs started chewing through the threads.
The factory ECU seems to handle the added air and pump quite well.
Last edited by Goobers; Nov 27, 2019 at 01:51 AM.
Maybe, instead of an FMU, try replacing the fuel pump with a higher flow one.
I had to do that on my setup because otherwise, I would constantly trip limp mode if I held high RPM for too long. While I did that, I ended up not using the piggyback that came with the setup as it fried itself. And I've been piggyback-less since. Also no limp, CEL, etc. that were related to it. The only CEL I got were when the spark plugs started chewing through the threads.
The factory ECU seems to handle the added air and pump quite well.
I had to do that on my setup because otherwise, I would constantly trip limp mode if I held high RPM for too long. While I did that, I ended up not using the piggyback that came with the setup as it fried itself. And I've been piggyback-less since. Also no limp, CEL, etc. that were related to it. The only CEL I got were when the spark plugs started chewing through the threads.
The factory ECU seems to handle the added air and pump quite well.
You're going to spend thousands of dollars to have 'fun' in a 120 whp automatic economy car that you yourself have said you're going to scrap?
uhhhhhhh this will barely stretch over 500$? And uhhh pretty much yeah I wanna squeeze as much as I can out of it, especially since I cannot afford a swap at the moment. But hey it’s better than spending 2500$ for a supercharger that only adds like 10 hp?
You're going to turbocharge it for $500? Do tell.
fmu: $100+/-
turbocharger: $100 +\-
gd3 eBay td04 manifold: $100
oil line: $30
custom down pipe: free
charge pipes: 50$ +\-
boost controller:$30 +/-
vacuum lines: $15
waste gate: $50 +\-
No tune support, no intercooler
*roughly $475*
....... but on a side note I’ll tally up the total cost when I complete the project, I’m going cheap on parts because I’m not expecting high performance from an automatic L15a1 also I’ll replace all my gaskets if I have too
turbocharger: $100 +\-
gd3 eBay td04 manifold: $100
oil line: $30
custom down pipe: free
charge pipes: 50$ +\-
boost controller:$30 +/-
vacuum lines: $15
waste gate: $50 +\-
No tune support, no intercooler
*roughly $475*....... but on a side note I’ll tally up the total cost when I complete the project, I’m going cheap on parts because I’m not expecting high performance from an automatic L15a1 also I’ll replace all my gaskets if I have too
fmu: $100+/-
turbocharger: $100 +\-
gd3 eBay td04 manifold: $100
oil line: $30
custom down pipe: free
charge pipes: 50$ +\-
boost controller:$30 +/-
vacuum lines: $15
waste gate: $50 +\-
No tune support, no intercooler
*roughly $475*
....... but on a side note I’ll tally up the total cost when I complete the project, I’m going cheap on parts because I’m not expecting high performance from an automatic L15a1 also I’ll replace all my gaskets if I have too
turbocharger: $100 +\-
gd3 eBay td04 manifold: $100
oil line: $30
custom down pipe: free
charge pipes: 50$ +\-
boost controller:$30 +/-
vacuum lines: $15
waste gate: $50 +\-
No tune support, no intercooler
*roughly $475*....... but on a side note I’ll tally up the total cost when I complete the project, I’m going cheap on parts because I’m not expecting high performance from an automatic L15a1 also I’ll replace all my gaskets if I have too
I had to do that on my setup because otherwise, I would constantly trip limp mode if I held high RPM for too long. While I did that, I ended up not using the piggyback that came with the setup as it fried itself. And I've been piggyback-less since. Also no limp, CEL, etc. that were related to it. The only CEL I got were when the spark plugs started chewing through the threads.
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