Fit Cancelled for USA
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Joined: Apr 2009
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From: SoCal/Castaic
Not surprised. I personally would never by a GK and my GE is still runs like new, getting 44 mpg and on original brake pad as 133K miles.
My next car will be a stick shift Civic sport with 2.0, or something else when im ready to buy.
The vehicle selection is definitely changing with the times...
manual transmission, naturally aspirated injected engines... all seem to go into history...
My next car will be a stick shift Civic sport with 2.0, or something else when im ready to buy.
The vehicle selection is definitely changing with the times...
manual transmission, naturally aspirated injected engines... all seem to go into history...
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Posts: 1,628
From: California
Corolla Hatch: $20,000 and 3,000 lbs.
Are the cams driven by a chain or a belt? Just wondering.
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From: California
I agree. VW of the past is not the present. Our '17 Golf has rolled over 80k miles and has had a grand total of one failure. The sunroof switch had to be re-programmed. Not even replaced...just needed the body module reflashed.
Maintenance expense is a variable that depends mostly on whether you are a dealership person, DIY'er, or independent shop person. If you are a dealership person, the maintenance is definitely higher. VW dealerships are considerably more expensive than Honda dealers. But, if you do it yourself or use an independent shop, oil change is an oil change. Spark plugs are every 50k, so that adds a whopping $16 every 50k miles for a DIY'er. It's a 20 minute job also as the current gen Golf is very easy to work on since the engine is all under hood. Nothing is under the cowl so it's all accessible.
Not saying that it's not a little more money to keep a Golf on the road than a Fit. Just saying that it doesn't have to be expensive either.
My Dad spends a TON more on maintenance of his Honda than we do our VW, but that's because he relies on others to do the work.
Maintenance expense is a variable that depends mostly on whether you are a dealership person, DIY'er, or independent shop person. If you are a dealership person, the maintenance is definitely higher. VW dealerships are considerably more expensive than Honda dealers. But, if you do it yourself or use an independent shop, oil change is an oil change. Spark plugs are every 50k, so that adds a whopping $16 every 50k miles for a DIY'er. It's a 20 minute job also as the current gen Golf is very easy to work on since the engine is all under hood. Nothing is under the cowl so it's all accessible.
Not saying that it's not a little more money to keep a Golf on the road than a Fit. Just saying that it doesn't have to be expensive either.
My Dad spends a TON more on maintenance of his Honda than we do our VW, but that's because he relies on others to do the work.
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From: Upstate New York
Only problem with the Civic hatchback is the extra 1.5 feet of length. That's 1.5 feet less space for the Harley-Davidson in the garage.
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From: Cleveland, GA
I feel for you! I just can't imagine how painful that would be to watch your ride disintegrate. My 1990 vehicle has never left the South and has zero rust.
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From: Washington
I get pissed off with Honda America never bringing the cool cars here and canceling the kind of cool cars they have here. If only their steering wheels in Japan and EU were on the left side...
I'm dying for an electric car but don't want to spend a ton on a Tesla. Was interested in the news of a Jazz EV for $20k in 2020 but now it seems we get nothing at all. There's an electric/gas hybrid now too. Perfect for what I'd want.
https://www.autoblog.com/2020/06/10/...t-first-drive/
But again, nothing in the US. SMH
I'm dying for an electric car but don't want to spend a ton on a Tesla. Was interested in the news of a Jazz EV for $20k in 2020 but now it seems we get nothing at all. There's an electric/gas hybrid now too. Perfect for what I'd want.
https://www.autoblog.com/2020/06/10/...t-first-drive/
But again, nothing in the US. SMH
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From: Finland
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From: Washington
Except that most of the EU and the rest of Europe have the steering wheel on the left side. See countries driving on the left or right
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From: California
Is it possible that the HondaFreaks in England and the EU are freaky-er than the PsychoFitters on this side of the pond (I'm looking at you, JulianNachos.
)?
I agree the Fit has just swelled up since the GD3. The 2020 Fit is almost the size of the 1st gen Odyssey!
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From: Over There
No it hasn't. Amazingly it's almost the exact same size and weight. (assuming Wikipedia is accurate in this case...)
First gen:
Length 157.4 in.
Width 65.9 in.
Height 60 in.
Curb weight 2390 Lb.
3rd gen:
Length 157.4 in.
Width 66.7
Height 60-61 in.
Curb weight 2381 lb.
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From: Phoenix, AZ USA
This is what replaces the Fit
while gaining an extra gear, a second camshaft, a bunch of safety and tech stuff, etc.
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From: Cleveland, GA
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From: Memphis, TN
I wouldn't call a car that's been sold in the States since 2015 as one that's replacing the Fit. Maybe cannibalizing. The HR-V was introduced for MY2016, a year after the 3rd gen Fit; over the next 4 years, the HR-V not only ate into a third of Fit sales, it ended up outselling the Fit almost 3:1. Killing the USDM Fit is a business decision.
Also, the USDM HR-V's engine is the old R-series Civic engine. Not sure what that has to do with anything.
Also, the USDM HR-V's engine is the old R-series Civic engine. Not sure what that has to do with anything.
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From: Phoenix, AZ USA
Yeah, I know the HRV is an oldie by now. But it really is what Honda will sell here in 2021 after Fit is dropped. Rumors say 2021 version will have new chassis & possibly turbo 1.5 engine. I brought up the old R series engine cuz it was the one that was prone to a cracked block, from 2006 - 2009. Hate that the Fit is gone & HRV will be all you can buy in 2021. Sigh....
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From: Boston, MA
It could be a good car, with a new chassis, and engine, and better interior quality. As it is, it’s widely seen as a car bought by people who don’t know about the existence of better options.
And it’s not that small, if small is something that’s important to you (maybe you parallel park once a day) in your entry level car
And it’s not that small, if small is something that’s important to you (maybe you parallel park once a day) in your entry level car