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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 09:34 AM
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Yep, unfortunately, I'd also think that in North America, USA...Honda would rather sell you a HRV or a Civic Hatch-Back.
Asia and some European countries have more areas cities and streets where a small hatch-back is not only advantageous, but necessary. So I'd bet some incarnation of "The Fit" will continue to be produced if only for those markets.
I really hope Honda doesn't stop selling the Fit in the USA, but I have to admit I think it is possible.
 
Old Sep 28, 2019 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by fitchet
I really hope Honda doesn't stop selling the Fit in the USA, but I have to admit I think it is possible.
A simultaneous occurrence of a spike in gas prices and a recession would do the trick.

If the next gen Fit doesn't appear in the US, I'd bet Honda has plans to offer it if and when sales potential for the Fit improves. It's not too hard to start producing and importing either from Mexico or Japan.

You are spot on though. Right now sales conditions (and forecasts, probably) dictate a focus on the production of the HRV and Civic Hatch, especially as the US market has always had a fondness for larger vehicles. Gotta go with the flow.
 
Old Oct 1, 2019 | 06:19 PM
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We just returned from a trip to Maine, and apparently that's where all the GK Fits are. I lost count as they were all over the place from Bar Harbor to Ogunquit! So they're popular there at least.
 
Old Oct 3, 2019 | 03:55 PM
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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 03:53 PM
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Part of the problem or symptom of the problem?
Having this thread in mind, I watched a commercial for a local Honda Dealership recently. It wasn't a national commercial but a commercial from a big dealership for an immediate supposed "sale" period.
They mentioned the availability and great prices for almost every Honda model....except the Fit. It wasn't even mentioned. To an outsider, with no familiarity with the Honda line-up, you wouldn't even know Honda sold something called a Honda Fit. The commercial pretty much made it seem the Honda line-up was The Accord, The Civic, the CRV and HRV. But there wasn't even a passing mention of anything called a Honda Fit.
 
Old Oct 5, 2019 | 09:23 AM
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My first thought was "preposterous!". But some quick research while eating pancakes and coffee suggests you might be right to suggest there will be no 2020 Fit in the US.

With the GK, Honda have been selling roughly 50K units a year. In the last two years, sales have dropped below that. I regard 50K as about the minimum for efficient sales. Of course, if it's shared with another market and cheap enough to produce/move/market then it can sometimes still be viable. But if you look at the cars that Ford, GM have been cancelling, it's generally stuff below the 50K mark. Exception: Ford Focus and Chevy Cruze which was consistently selling over 100K yet are being canned -- note to Ford, Chevy: If you are losing money selling 200k units, you're doing something wrong.

Now, vs the Fit, which car model launched a few years ago and is now selling MORE than the Fit ever has? Yup, that'd be the HRV. I think it's very possible Honda decides it would be simpler to sell only one of the models here. And I can't really argue -- except that will leave them with at least a year gap as the redesign the HRV. Plus that complicates their production globally as they sell that "Fit Crossover" in Europe+LatAm, and a HRV in the US and Canada.

Don't give up all hope. Smart OEMs (not looking at you here Ford) realize that there is value in cheap cars beyond the initial sale -- you capture a younger buyer who will come back to buy more. If you can have a cheap car and manage to not lose money, then it's a good idea to keep it on the market. The HRV is substantially more expensive than the Fit already. US safely regulations - and complete stagnation in wage worker growth despite large income growth in the top wealth bracket - mean that the price of even a barebones car is now way beyond what a young person can afford without debt or parental assistance. No surprise the market for cheapa88 cars is drying up. Yet Nissan sell the Versa, Toyota the Yaris, Hyundai the Accent --- some of these sell better than the Fit, some worse. You can see the companies actively trying to juggle hatchback vs sedan offerings to see how they'll optimize their lineup at the low end vs the small crossovers that are more appealing but more costly (Juke, Corolla, Kona)
 
Old Oct 5, 2019 | 09:28 AM
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I want you guysngirlsnothers to checkout my old photoshop work. I'm quite proud of these even years later.

Ol fujisawa was ahead of his time and predicted a Fit-based CUV before it was cool :P

https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/othe...op-thread.html


 
Old Oct 8, 2019 | 05:49 AM
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Keep this thread alive! Been reading here to catch up on any updates, which are none at this point.


 

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Old Oct 8, 2019 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by fujisawa
I want you guysngirlsnothers to checkout my old photoshop work. I'm quite proud of these even years later.

Ol fujisawa was ahead of his time and predicted a Fit-based CUV before it was cool :P

https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/othe...op-thread.html

this is actually a far closer prediction to the Fit Twist available in Brazil. Basically a GE with "offroad" styling.
 
Old Oct 16, 2019 | 08:52 AM
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As the Tokyo Auto Show draws closer, so do the bits of news about the next gen Fit. Still no confirmation of whether the Fit comes to the US.

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/10/16/...redesign-2020/
 
Old Oct 18, 2019 | 06:03 AM
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Exclamation

I don't know what to make of it. I imagine I'll end up liking the generation i have over the newer one.

however, there is musing of a type r package https://www.rushlane.com/2020-honda-...-12314893.html

 

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Old Oct 23, 2019 | 06:47 AM
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If there is no 2020 fit in USA then I will probably be shopping for the last 5-speed Sport model in the country.

Me too. This is coming from the asshole that's got fifteen-month-old month old 2018 with 146300 miles on it
 
Old Apr 15, 2020 | 07:40 PM
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So the 2020 Fit is out now. It looks the different but the same engine.

https://automobiles.honda.com/fit
 
Old Apr 15, 2020 | 08:44 PM
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The hybrid 1.5ltr eletric hybrid engine seems to be the ticket overseas though on the 2020 Fit.

The hybrid drive e:HEV in the new Jazz combines a 1.5-litre DOHC i-VTEC gasoline engine with the two electric machines mentioned above. The new Jazz has a system output of 80 kW, can accelerate from 0 to 100 km/h in 9.4 seconds and has a top speed is 175 km/h.
From HERE

80kw seems to be about 107hp.





And this---->
"Every variant of the new Jazz will be fitted with Honda’s e:HEV powertrain, which comprises a naturally aspirated 1.5-litre four-cylinder petrol, two electric motors and a compact lithium-ion battery pack, for a total output of 108bhp and 253Nm of torque."
From HERE

253Nm or torque is 184ft-lbs of torque. Whoa!
 

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Old May 11, 2020 | 10:19 AM
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I see "2020 Fits" on the dealer web sites, which are 2019 Fits. Some LX base models for $17,000, & probably could get for less with pricing from USAA, Costco, etc. Fits usta be higher priced than their competitors, not so much anymore. Also agree than other brands are outselling Fits now. Saw a comment that you can buy higher priced Fit and it wouldn't be that much more to buy a Civic. Plus, Civics get same MPG as Fit, so why buy a smaller car? Etc Etc
 
Old May 12, 2020 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by siguy
I see "2020 Fits" on the dealer web sites, which are 2019 Fits. Some LX base models for $17,000, & probably could get for less with pricing from USAA, Costco, etc. Fits usta be higher priced than their competitors, not so much anymore. Also agree than other brands are outselling Fits now. Saw a comment that you can buy higher priced Fit and it wouldn't be that much more to buy a Civic. Plus, Civics get same MPG as Fit, so why buy a smaller car? Etc Etc
"Why buy a smaller car?" Well, because it's a smaller car.
 
Old May 13, 2020 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Gary
"Why buy a smaller car?" Well, because it's a smaller car.
I'm driving a 2017 Honda Civic EX-T Hatchback now (CVT). it's a great car. Good gas mileage and fast with the limited amount of modifications I had done to it. Even with this, I miss my Honda Fit. Interior wise, the Fit doesn't seem smaller. Trunk wise, the Civic has more space but once I folded the Fit's seat down (which I did shopping), that was no longer the case. The Fit just seem to have a lot more utility and interior space as a whole. It felt like it anyways, despite the Fit being a smaller car.

I want another one but I want a more powerful engine in the Fit. It's current engine is fantastic. I'm just being greedy.
 
Old Jun 24, 2020 | 11:13 AM
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Will Fit Return in 2021?

That has been a question on this forum. I read on Autoblog that Fit sold 35,414 cars in 2019. That is not a lot & it would not surprise me if Honda puts an end to the Fit in the US. The Toyota Yaris has been ended in US, will not return for 2021. They sold 21,916 combined (hatch & sedan) in 2019. The Hyundai Accent sold 25,628 in 2019. Choices for a small hatch are getting less each year.
 
Old Jun 25, 2020 | 12:17 AM
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Gas is cheap and so the public wants large SUVs. It will be interesting to see if the economic disaster being caused by COVID19 will cause the public to rethink this issue. SUVs have been soaring in price and people may no longer have the money. Nonetheless Honda could put the North American Fit on hold and wait and see if demand improves enough in some future year to make it worthwhile bringing back.
 
Old Jun 25, 2020 | 03:12 AM
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With how good the Civic hatch is does Honda need another hatch? Maybe they brought it back to so they could phase out the Fit.
 



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