Arrg! Broke lug nut stud!
#61
$400 to replace a $2.00 part - Welcome to Honda!
Qwerty66,
Thanks for the nice suggestion. But look at the photos again. You can't use a "nut to slowly cut it into your hub" with a socket and a ratchet. This may work for other cars such as a Camry, Nissan, etc. But not for Honda. There isn't enough clearance to slide through the new stud into the hub. This is typical of a lot of Honda models. Honda engineers want you to spend $400 to replace a $2.00 part - a part that's not uncommon to break. Makes perfect sense for their pockets.
I have a 2000 Honda and this is basically what happened. Broke three studs on left and right front wheels. I ended up having to pay a mechanic $200 fix the problem, which included removing the hub and knuckles to gain access to the studs. Of course by removing the hub you basically also break the seals of the bearings. So another $140 for a set of bearings. Then $50 for a machine shop to un-pressed and pressed the old and new bearings. I'm now very reluctant to rotate my tires for fear that one or more of these studs may break again. Welcome to Honda!
Tonight, I purchased 4 new tires at Costco and was told by the tire mechanic that a stud in the left back wheel broke. So here we go again. My wife wants me to sell the car. All I can say is, never again will I buy a Honda.
Thanks for the nice suggestion. But look at the photos again. You can't use a "nut to slowly cut it into your hub" with a socket and a ratchet. This may work for other cars such as a Camry, Nissan, etc. But not for Honda. There isn't enough clearance to slide through the new stud into the hub. This is typical of a lot of Honda models. Honda engineers want you to spend $400 to replace a $2.00 part - a part that's not uncommon to break. Makes perfect sense for their pockets.
I have a 2000 Honda and this is basically what happened. Broke three studs on left and right front wheels. I ended up having to pay a mechanic $200 fix the problem, which included removing the hub and knuckles to gain access to the studs. Of course by removing the hub you basically also break the seals of the bearings. So another $140 for a set of bearings. Then $50 for a machine shop to un-pressed and pressed the old and new bearings. I'm now very reluctant to rotate my tires for fear that one or more of these studs may break again. Welcome to Honda!
Tonight, I purchased 4 new tires at Costco and was told by the tire mechanic that a stud in the left back wheel broke. So here we go again. My wife wants me to sell the car. All I can say is, never again will I buy a Honda.
#62
PLENTY of people [including myself] have replaced their studs using the aforementioned technique.
learn to turn a wrench or make friends with someone who can. ALL dealerships, regardless of make or model, will charge your the same if not more for that amount of work. that's a stupid reason not to buy another honda.
learn to turn a wrench or make friends with someone who can. ALL dealerships, regardless of make or model, will charge your the same if not more for that amount of work. that's a stupid reason not to buy another honda.
Last edited by GD3_Wagoon; 10-24-2009 at 12:25 AM.
#64
if u guys r breaking studs then u seriously should stop whatever u r doing and get a pro!!!
#66
yeah i had 10 different sets of wheels, used stock, aluminum etc lugnuts, no anti seize, never broke one stud.. even worked at a dealer and never broke a stud either and we gun everything there haha
400 to fix a 2.00 part? so what, thats life.. rear main seal is like 10$ but cost 1000 to replace.. same thing.. youre paying for labor and skill.. better than going to the doctor, right? guy gets paid pretty well for poking around and telling you whats wrong and you still gotta pay for meds on top of that
400 to fix a 2.00 part? so what, thats life.. rear main seal is like 10$ but cost 1000 to replace.. same thing.. youre paying for labor and skill.. better than going to the doctor, right? guy gets paid pretty well for poking around and telling you whats wrong and you still gotta pay for meds on top of that
Last edited by HONDAMATIC; 10-24-2009 at 11:42 PM.
#68
I've only had one stud get cross-threaded, and it was because my dad didn't hand-thread it first before using an impact gun. That's owning 6 hondas, swapping wheels 4x yearly at the bare minimum. (All seasons in spring/fall, summer tires in summer, winter tires in winter) I rotate tires every 4k miles, and I've racked up over 200k miles so far in this lifetime. I also have a set of track wheels that I swap over every time I go autocrossing or out on a track.
I've never snapped off a stud. I can't even imagine the force it'd take to do that.
Why do I only have one messed up lug in my past? Probably because I'm anal about making sure the lugnut spins freely onto the lug before I crank the shit out of it with a 452354 ft/lb torque gun. Then I make sure they're all torqued in order, and not to the max-spec all in one go. It's all metal, and metal doesn't like to be stressed.
It's not a problem of poor manufacturing across-the-board, it's just a problem of everyone looking at every little thing. I've seen tons of american, italian, german, korean, and japanese cars with broken studs, this isn't a problem specific to one manufacturer. It happens when you don't do things the right way, that's all it boils down to.
I've never snapped off a stud. I can't even imagine the force it'd take to do that.
Why do I only have one messed up lug in my past? Probably because I'm anal about making sure the lugnut spins freely onto the lug before I crank the shit out of it with a 452354 ft/lb torque gun. Then I make sure they're all torqued in order, and not to the max-spec all in one go. It's all metal, and metal doesn't like to be stressed.
It's not a problem of poor manufacturing across-the-board, it's just a problem of everyone looking at every little thing. I've seen tons of american, italian, german, korean, and japanese cars with broken studs, this isn't a problem specific to one manufacturer. It happens when you don't do things the right way, that's all it boils down to.
#69
Bumping this. Looks like I have two cross-threaded bolts on the front passenger side. I was changing my brake pads when I couldn't hand tighten two of the nuts. Will hammering the bolt out and sucking the new ones in with a nut work? I plan on doing this, but I don't have the press to do this properly.
#70
You're going to need a press to do it right. My dad and I invested in an 18 ton press from harbor freight to do bushing changes, best 350-ish dollars we spent. If I were you I'd see if I had a friend with one or ask a tuner shop to press the old stud out and press the new one in by bringing them the hub.
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You're going to need a press to do it right. My dad and I invested in an 18 ton press from harbor freight to do bushing changes, best 350-ish dollars we spent. If I were you I'd see if I had a friend with one or ask a tuner shop to press the old stud out and press the new one in by bringing them the hub.
I have never used a press to do this. I use a lug nut or a hex nut to pull it through. But I do use a washer/stack of washers between the lug nut and hub.
#72
Just got through replacing 2 of my front stripped studs!! It was a PAIN!!!!! I used a hammer to knock them out it, but i didn't use a press, i used and open end lug nut and just pulled them thru worked good enough. I can see why honda pays so much to put these on.
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