Before ya go yellin like this on forums like this, find real documentation on this, and post a link to it.

I'm curious about it, but I wouldn't want someone to follow your advice offhand, and cause damage if it really ISN'T the 'Honda recommended' approach.

Thanks

 

I could reply with your bitter tone, but I won’t.

Honda started as an engine builder. If the Honda engineers that wrote the owner’s manual tell you to keep the oil until the first scheduled maintenance, there must be a reason. https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/om/AA0707/AA0707OM.pdf Page 136 BTW.

It’s a known fact, and a topic covered in other threads in this forum, that Honda uses a break in oil with extra additives in it, odds are the filter is different too, to catch any metal shavings. Do you know something that the Honda Engineers don’t? If you do, please share.

Modern engines are designed differently. Modern oils are designed differently. Those with old school mentality that say oil needs to be changed every 3000 miles need to think differently.

 

I know that you are right on this. I would rather do over kill. I think that there are better filters than OEM Honda. Honda contracts out their oil and filters. They don't make the oil or filters. Some of their filters are better than others. The low priced Fram filters are the most sold and the worst quality filters. I used them for years on my 1990 GMC Suburban. It had 247,000 miles on it two years ago when the speedo quit. It has about 270,000 on it now. (guess??) It had 116,000 miles on it when I bought it. I can't say they are bad filters because of the success I had with them. I can say that better filters are easy to get. The most important thing is to change the oil before it breaks down. That is when the additives stop working. You can actually send samples to places to test the used oil and learn if you are being protected. I have never done that but if you worry about it you can. If I had an expensive car I might do that but not on a Fit. Like i said there are a lot of good ways to do it. OEM oil and filters is as good as you need.

 

Word. Use OEM oil and filters and send me the difference $ between the high dollar shit if you are itching to spend it

 

How much does a Honda filter cost? And a quart of Honda Oil? I have never bought any. I know that with my atv I can get Amsoil at a better price than Polaris oil. The Polaris oil is a synthetic oil also. I would guess that Honda stuff isn't cheap. I have doubts that there is much difference.

 

I understand completely and it is your Fit after all. Overkill can be good in many cases.

I also should have specified more clearly that when I said OEM filter, I meant the PCX S2000 oil filter made by Toyo Roki and not the PLM filter, produced by Filtech, meant for the Accord, Civic, etc. If you don't specify that you are looking for the PCX filter at the dealership then you will more than likely wind up with the PLM which is NOT what you want. The Toyo Roki filter is constructed much better than the FRAM style Filtech.

I've been running it on my CRX and Miata for the past few years and wouldn't use any other aside from the HAMP.

 

Mobil 1 5-20 and honda AO1 filter. When maint. minder calls for it.

 

I agree with leaving in the break-in oil until specified. Early model S2000's, 00 and 01 models, had oil consumption issues that likely stemmed from owners changing out their oil within the first 1000 miles.

I also completely agree with the bolded area. People need to start deprogramming themselves already.

 

What more do you want, it is in the break in section of the owners manual.

 

Alright, first off, I don't have a Fit yet, so I don't have an owners manual.

Second, I do not blindly take someone's post on an internet forum as gospel without evidence or a citeable source (neither should you)

Third, there's no 'tone' here, I was asking for a solid, linkable, citeable source to this information about the break in period and whatever special oil Honda uses.

You guys have to realize, some of us here are still in our 'research' phase, and want to know these things.

We are not/ Iam not trying to be (a) dickhead(s) by not taking some guy's bold red post as gospel, we just want to know where the information comes from.

 

you never want to use sythetic oils for a break in.The reason being that sythetic is so slippery that the piston rings dont have enough friction to seat well.I have actully seen the compression difference in building a cart engine.

 

At 3200 I went with Mobile 1 5w20 full sythetic and OEM filter. Until I lower it, it's still possible to get a drain pan beneath it. The filter though is kinda hidden and took a healthy twist of the strap wrench to remove.
I think that Honda endorses Mobile 1???

 

Also this has been covered in a few other threads. This site is growing so quickly, and the search button isn't being used by most.

 

I have read this before and believe there is truth to it. I am not going to do it but why does GM put Mobil One in the Corvette and GTO and Dodge into the Viper as factory fill? Do they use a different method for machining their cylinders that allows the synthetic oil to seat the rings properly? If synthetic is truly slicker it will work better. That is logical. My Polaris atv came with synthetic oil in it. The same with my Bombarier atv. It seems to have seated the rings well enough. I know that some engines are built differently than others and that may be the difference. But what do they do to the cylinders or rings that is different? I have asked that question before and I guess that I haven't asked the right person yet. I have read that Honda has treated the piston skirts on the fit motors to reduce friction. Will that effect the use of synthetic oil? I am not arguing with you. I want to learn something if I can. I will stick with Honda's breakin method because I trust Honda. I just wish that I had more information from them about why they make their recommendations.

I have read on this forum that Honda may use some additives in the breakin oil. I just wish I knew what and why. This oil stuff is important.