ah ok. lol i was confused for a second:D

 

I think he was just joking. lol

 

I hope they do bring it over, but doubt seriously that it will actually wind up that cheap or that light. They need to slot it against an established rival which I believe will be Civic Si coupe. If you look at the Si coupe, it doesn't come near the price or weight targets, and it shares a common FWD platform with a mega-volume car, the base Civic.

Say it is RWD, Toyota would have to debut a new platform just for this low-volume car. If they were going to do it, I imagine MSRP would need to be much higher to justify the huge sunk costs. Even a cash flush Toyota would need to make some compromises to keep costs under control. Plus they would have a disruptive new model undercutting their entire line...

Not saying it won't happen, but TM is still a very conservative company at heart. To do something like the rumors suggest would be very risky and radical.

 

i wish they got some guts and put something out like this, but yeah i agree.

 

Look up the Blacktop 4AGE and see why im not!
Maybe not the that exact motor, but something high revving an fun. oh an with ITB's would be nice

 

I'm very familiar with the Blacktop 4AGE. ;)

I was actually referring to the 2JZ comment. And there's no way Toyota would put ITBs on a car that's supposed to be under $17 grand. Wishful thinking, but I don't remember the last time any automanufacturer successfully put ITBs on any reliable mainstream vehicle and sold it in large numbers, even to a niche market.

Give it the Scion 2.2L based on the Scion/Camry 2.4L I4, a suspension based around the last generation MR-Spyder in hatchback form with styling cues from the Toyota FT-HS concept and call it a day. Easily sold under $17K.

 

it better have 10k rpm and LSD on it =P

 

in our dreams lol

 

More info:

7tune.com - JDM Automotive lifestyle magazine » Blog Archive » Toyota/Subaru Lightweight Sports Car


It seems they are really concentrating on the price point rather than performance. Their aim of 2 million yen is forcing them to keep it light. They are even concerned that going from a 1.5l to a 2.0l would be too much weight. ugh.

 

BMW has put ITB's on some of their motorsports cars. Whether you consider them mainstream or reliable is another story as compared to any toyota.

 

Sorry this is been a while... but I had to interject. The New Miata is only 22lbs heavier than the previous NB model... and has a good bit more power. The NB (2nd Gen- 1999-2005) is usually considered the porky-er Miata due to its lower power to weight ratio. Sorry... just a miata lover! ;)

 

86 or not, this is going to be a sweet car. It would be interesting to see this in the WRC.