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Old 11-23-2012, 12:45 PM
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I can't believe how off they were with the Kia Soul.

Just ridiculous.
 
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by JAZZdatFIT View Post
my friend owns a hyundai, he said that hyundai is paying him for the extra gas he is spending lol
if you are true in your words then i will surely purchase any car of hyundai this will benefit me by paying. not only me but many of the new users will come into hyundai car section
 
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Old 12-07-2012, 09:34 AM
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You had to figure the 40mpg on all the other makes and models was pie in the the sky. If you look at Consumer Reports best fuel efficiency cars The most fuel-efficient cars | Consumer Reports

There is really only three cars that average 1 mpg better then the Fit you would think with all the cars claiming 40mpg highway there would be more gas vehicles ahead of the fit.
 
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:59 PM
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Makes me wonder what lies they have gotten away with in the past
 
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It's called "Marketing" and "Sales"...
 
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:46 PM
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Just commenting on this because a few people brought it up...Weird that so many (as mentioned here and other places) have a tough time achieving estimated mpgs in their subarus. My WRX sticker states 19/25 and I'm consistently getting 24 calculated. My commute is 15 miles round trip so hmmm... Idk.
 
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Btrthnezr3 View Post
Just commenting on this because a few people brought it up...Weird that so many (as mentioned here and other places) have a tough time achieving estimated mpgs in their subarus. My WRX sticker states 19/25 and I'm consistently getting 24 calculated. My commute is 15 miles round trip so hmmm... Idk.
I average about 23/24 (never the speed limit) with my '02 Rex as well. :-) The new Imprezas are supposed to ave. low 30s'.
 
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Old 12-20-2012, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JAZZdatFIT View Post
my friend owns a hyundai, he said that hyundai is paying him for the extra gas he is spending lol
Seriously? They gotta pay me then!
 
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Old 12-20-2012, 10:11 AM
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they all do

Read somewhere that some manufactuers dont even have to test or show test results. An estimated epa is when they put out what they feel it should return in MPG's based on:

-engine size
-past iterations of engines
-modifications to engines (direct injection) to raise mpg's

Given the way the tests are, its no revelation that so many fail to reach the high end of their estimates but instead are a few above the city mileage.

I had an elantra for a month while my fit was in the shop and I ranged from 19-27 with 25 being the average. I drove about 1000 miles (good old enterprise) under all types of conditions.


I rarely get over 27 mpg in my fit...though I own up to it given the way I drive and the fact I load the car up all the time.


Love my fit but needs to be about 3 inches wider with better seats...since Honda routinely fails to bring over a hatchback civic thereby limiting my choices to the Fit or the CRV, I guess I'll be taking a closer look at either:

Impreza
Elantra GT (better standard features for price)

I find it a shame that Honda can get so much right then just ignore the consumer the rest of the way...
 
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The Fit's not really "designed for the US", is the issue. In other parts of the world it's considered a family hatch. Here it's just slotted into the subcompact section as a filler; they have to offer something cheaply and luckily it's pretty good. But yes, between the Fit and the CRV there's room for another hatch in the lineup, if you ask me.

Personally? Accord wagon.
 
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Old 12-20-2012, 03:33 PM
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You just had to know that claims of 40 mpg averages were out of whack. Owners who based buying decisions on inaccurate mileage estimates may have purchased different vehicles otherwise.

I agree that Honda seems to understate their fuel economy statistics and consistently exceed owner expectations.
 
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Old 12-20-2012, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mrnoyb View Post
You just had to know that claims of 40 mpg averages were out of whack. Owners who based buying decisions on inaccurate mileage estimates may have purchased different vehicles otherwise.

That is because you get articles like this one that do not use real world numbers only the car's ratings Next-Gen 2015 Honda Fit Getting More Efficient DI Engine, CVT

I wonder that this article states the next generation fit would accelerate 15-percent quicker than today's engine with the five-speed automatic what about the manual?
 
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The engineers forgot they used ethanol free gas in their tests so when e10 is used the mpg fell. The test fuel was probably high octane too and done in a controlled environment which in the real world their data does not even come close.

Honda seems to underestimate their mpg. I've alway got better mpg than what they said. You also can't predict how people drive the vehicle too.

What is weird to me is how Honda got 27/33 with the fit, in order for me to get those mpg id have to drive in 4th gear on the freeway and lock out the overdrive or drive at WOT up the canyons. Lowest MPG ive gotten so far was 35.7mpg and that's with a 650lbs of Costco water and a 145lb passenger.
 
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