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Old 04-15-2009, 02:39 PM
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Another GE8 / 09' Wheel "No Rubbing" Thread

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I'm new here and i've tried to do a lot of searching to figure out what I'm doing before I start asking questions. I've read that many different people who lower their 09 GE8's end up with wheels around a +45mm offset, and Those who don't lower, a +40mm offset. My question is since the GE8 09 Fit Sport has a different offset than the earlier models (seems to be easier to fit wheels on the 09's), will a 16x7 +42mm offset wheel end up rubbing on 205/50-16 Tires?

I am looking at this particular tire because the Falken 452's can be ordered in that size from Discount Tires. The size of the wheel and tire does not change at all from the stock 185/55-16 and the MPH speedometer would barely change from being accurate (70 @ 70mph) to .18mph off (70 @ 70.18mph) as per the Wheel & Tire Bible...

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I am not intentionally going to lower it anytime soon, but may desire to in the future. Will there be any issues?

The wheels I'm looking at:
http://www.1010tires.com/wheel.asp?w...heelmodel=FN18

 
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Old 04-16-2009, 07:54 AM
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Hi everyone,

I'm new here and i've tried to do a lot of searching to figure out what I'm doing before I start asking questions. I've read that many different people who lower their 09 GE8's end up with wheels around a +45mm offset, and Those who don't lower, a +40mm offset. My question is since the GE8 09 Fit Sport has a different offset than the earlier models (seems to be easier to fit wheels on the 09's), will a 16x7 +42mm offset wheel end up rubbing on 205/50-16 Tires?

I am looking at this particular tire because the Falken 452's can be ordered in that size from Discount Tires. The size of the wheel and tire does not change at all from the stock 185/55-16 and the MPH speedometer would barely change from being accurate (70 @ 70mph) to .18mph off (70 @ 70.18mph) as per the Wheel & Tire Bible...

Car Bibles : The Wheel and Tire Bible Page 2 of 2

I am not intentionally going to lower it anytime soon, but may desire to in the future. Will there be any issues?

The wheels I'm looking at:
Enkei FN18 Wheels - Wheel Size & Price Details - 1010tires.com


Nice wheel; very similar to mine so I have to like them.
If you don't lower the Fit its close to put 205/50x16 tires on 16x7/42 wheels on an 09 Fit. But I don't recommend cause its too much $ to take the risk. Besides the extra weight further out from the wheel centerline imposes penalties in mpg and acceleration.
 
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Nice wheel; very similar to mine so I have to like them.
If you don't lower the Fit its close to put 205/50x16 tires on 16x7/42 wheels on an 09 Fit. But I don't recommend cause its too much $ to take the risk. Besides the extra weight further out from the wheel centerline imposes penalties in mpg and acceleration.
What about Falken 512's ... Falken doesn't make the 452 and lower than 205/50-16 but the Falken 512 comes in the 205/45-16 flavor. Would that instead be friendly towards possible suspension lowering?

What you said it's too much money to take the risk, were you referring to killing tires?
 
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Old 04-17-2009, 04:44 PM
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What about Falken 512's ... Falken doesn't make the 452 and lower than 205/50-16 but the Falken 512 comes in the 205/45-16 flavor. Would that instead be friendly towards possible suspension lowering?

What you said it's too much money to take the risk, were you referring to killing tires?
When you spend $400 and it doesn't work the risk is too high.
If you lower stick with the 45 mm and up offsets. And 205/45x16 tires.
 
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so if you didn't lower the car what would be considered the largest tire to go with on 16x7 rims with a +42 offset with no rubbing issues?
 
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so if you didn't lower the car what would be considered the largest tire to go with on 16x7 rims with a +42 offset with no rubbing issues?
The risk is always going to be there with a +42; it is right on the edge for tolerance. Your first and best way to avoid headaches is just to pick out a +45 or higher wheel.

Your second best bet is to go as small as possible to minimize the risk; I would suggest getting a 195/40/R16 or 195/45/R16. That or a maybe a 205/40/R16, but again; risk of rubbing with a +42 16" rim is pretty high. It may just be the clips, it could be worse.

If you do end up getting the wheel & it rubs there are last-resort options like cambering out & trying to roll fenders.
 
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so if you didn't lower the car what would be considered the largest tire to go with on 16x7 rims with a +42 offset with no rubbing issues?
For 08's

195/40x17's. If you stiffen the rear with AirLifts you may get away with 205/40x17's. I like the 195/40x17 cause they have better acceleration, cornering, and mpg.

for 09's you can get away with the 205/40x17.

Both require offsets not less than 42 mm and preferrably 45.
 

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For 08's

195/40x17's. If you stiffen the rear with AirLifts you may get away with 205/40x17's. I like the 195/40x17 cause they have better acceleration, cornering, and mpg.

for 09's you can get away with the 205/40x17.

Both require offsets not less than 42 mm and preferrably 45.
This may be a silly question but can you even put a 205/40x17 tire on a 16x7 wheel?
 
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Old 04-19-2009, 06:51 PM
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This may be a silly question but can you even put a 205/40x17 tire on a 16x7 wheel?

LOL
only very loosely. I misread the question.
On 16x7 wheels with 45 offset you can fit 205/45x16's on stock suspension. If you lower much you probably need to go to 195/45x16 tires.
 
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17x7, +43, 215/40/17 tires, lowered GE6 no rubbing whatsoever.
 
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UPDATE: 16x7 Rims, 205/45-16 Falken 512 Tires on my GE8 09' Fit and no rubbing at all from what I can tell.
 
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Old 05-10-2009, 08:28 PM
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UPDATE: 16x7 Rims, 205/45-16 Falken 512 Tires on my GE8 09' Fit and no rubbing at all from what I can tell.

Important question here is what is the offset of your wheels? If they are stock 16" as I read your post they are 16x6/53 mm and thats automatic OK. The question everyone needs is just how little the offset can be. we say 42 absolutely minimum with stock suspension and 45 mm with reasonable lowering typical 1.25".
 
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if you're so worried about rubbing, get your fenders rolled. man up
 
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:13 PM
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UPDATE: 16x7 Rims, 205/45-16 Falken 512 Tires on my GE8 09' Fit and no rubbing at all from what I can tell.
I really wanna see some pics!
 
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if you're so worried about rubbing, get your fenders rolled. man up
THANK YOU.

I think a lot of people are worried about these slight changes in offsets and width. It's NOT that big of deal. Roll the fenders, run a tire with a round sidewall (stretch if you want), add a little more negative camber. It's not going to affect anything noticeable to you. Maybe you'll actually enjoy a little camber for better turn in. A degree or two isn't going to eat up your tires in 4 days. I've daily driven on -3 w/ a 215/35 on a 9.5" wheel...no problem.

Today at work we test fitted a 18x9.5 +5 on a rear of lexus IS300. The stock wheels on the is300 are 17x7 +50mm. That's a difference of 77mm. The wheel poked 2" outside of the fenders (it was already rolled/pulled).BTW he was pretty low as well...What's the formula?

rolled/pulled fenders + stretched tire + negative camber = No rub.

5mm isn't much, hell 10mm difference isn't much. I do this everyday. it's ok to trust me. lol

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if you're so worried about rubbing, get your fenders rolled. man up
Amen. Its just a noise, that can be fixed with about 10 minutes of work. People act like getting anything lower than 45+ will destroy the car. Plus the only times itll rub is on bumps. Low offset FTW.
 
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09 Sport ..... 17x7, +40, 205/40/17 lowered on Eibach Pro kit, RUBBING A LOT even on minor bumps
 
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09 Sport ..... 17x7, +40, 205/40/17 lowered on Eibach Pro kit, RUBBING A LOT even on minor bumps

Sorry, but if you read very many posts you would have known better.
 

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