Okay, I'm gonna go out on a limb (probably fall down) and say that Honda will eventually issue a tsb for the fender liners. Maybe they could fab a partial liner that can be molded tight to the wheel lip. It could be stapled on the short side and attached with a couple clips on the outer fender lip. Techs wouldn't even have to remove the wheels, just jack up the car there's plenty of clearance when lifted to work on the liners.

Imho, if snow/mud collects between the fender and the liner it may cause the liner to collapse onto the tire. The tire may "catch " the liner causing it to be ripped off the car. Note, drooping parts and a spinning tire don't play well together. I guess time will tell.........

 

i think problem with the fender liner is with the design of the rear fender also
the rear fender doesn't have enough of the lip so you can have some clips that normally holds the edge of the liner to the lip of the fender.
poor design of the liner? yeah
it just lacked proper mounting

with my car lowered now on tein springs the rear tire is rubbing on the liner.

if there were enough lip on the fender there should be hardware such as these to hold the liner to the fender

 

may have to get some toyota u clips to try to fix the problem myself



Toyota Nylon U-Type Nut 20mm X 31mm #10 Scrw

 

took a closer looked at the rear fender liner.
it's a felt liner that's 2 piece and stapled together. where the 2 pieces joint it's warping causing the liner to sag.

 

Wow! How did Honda think that up?

 

I guess the engineers were busy on the important stuff so they assigned it to the summer student with the guideline that it had to be "really cheap".

 

i don't think engineer designed the liner.. nor was it poor workmanship that is the problem
i think it's whoever manufacturer the liner for honda.
Instead of rubber they decided to use a felt like fabric material and thick material can't conform to the entire radius of the wheel.
so i think so they decided to make it 2 piece and staple it together. (maybe for ease of manufacturing?)
it's where the two piece of fabric come together that's sagging.
if they had added extra clips along edge of the fender it would have fixed the problem

now we just gotta wait if Honda america is willing to do service recall for new liners.

i had sent a PM to honda customer service on fitfreak Johnathan?
hoping to heard back from Honda USA regarding this issue.

Everyone has EX or EX-L please inspect your rear fender liner
if you have sagging problem please call Honda custom service
By Phone
toll-free number: 1-800-999-1009 Ext 7
and report your problem and maybe we can make this a service recall to get it fixed.

 

Kenji815 wrote: "I had sent a PM to honda customer service on fitfreak Johnathan?
hoping to heard back from Honda USA regarding this issue."

Good luck on getting a reply back from Jonathan on this problem. Post if you do. I sent him a note also awhile back also and received no reply. It looks like he and Honda don't want to even acknowledge our concerns with a reply or followup. The last I looked cars are still being shipped the same way so I guess we are on our own to try to correct his. As my dealer repair shop manager said: "they are all like and that is the way it is".

Fit Charlie wrote: "Because if the supplier screwed up, Honda will make the supplier fix it. But I think if the supplier had screwed up then Honda wouldn't be stonewalling.

There are things I don't like about my Fit. There are things I wish Honda had done differently. Are they defects or design flaws? I don't think so".

So using your reasoning Fit Charlie if any part on a new car is defective (like the air bags) the car maker bears no responsibility for the car if it creates a problem. I can see a supplier might have to pay for the cost of replacing the part but I would think the manufacturer has some responsibility for the cars they sell. (Caution to new buyers... if you live up north where this is a problem, with possible future rust and liner saging from the buildup of heavy snow and slush, make sure this is fixed before you write that check because after you drive away no one will help you and you are on your own.

I like the car overall but small issues and the way dealers and manufactures deal with it can create problems with the way customers view their cars and future purchases. As an example I had a Chrysler once where a similar situation existed and they refused to do anything about it. In that case the gasket around the window was defective (probably a suppliers fault right) so I couldn't drive through a car wash or I would get wet. Chryslers just ignored the problem. You might say it was a small issue but I never looked at another Chrysler product again after their lack of concern. Little problems can develop into big issues if customers start looking at brand cars for future purchases. I have cars since none of them were Chrysler products. In my case my wife is ready for a new car in about a year but I may not look at Honda next time after the lack of concern shown on this small problem.

 

agree!! completely
the liner doesn't affect daily driving so i don't think they'll fix it.. it's more appearance problem more than mechanical.
i might try to glue it down myself or just remove it.

 

and also, all parts that made it to this vehicle WERE at some point designed exactly the way they are by a Honda engineer. So a Honda engineer designed this part (among many other defective parts), and signed off on it for manufacturing. The parts supplier has no say in what goes into the vehicle. The Honda QA department is supposed to make sure the part supplier is building the parts correctly. In this case, I believe Honda QA is passing parts as acceptable when they are not, or they meet the "spec" from the engineering department, because obviously that saves them money. Unfortunately it seems that most people who buy this car are willing to accept defective parts (because they are mostly cosmetic). Don't take offense at that statement, if you're offended it doesn't apply to you. I've read enough posts on here where people are willing to live with crap that I've never seen other car manufacturers get away with. Granted I have never driven an American car, but I have plenty of experience with other Japanese and German brands, and in my experience, don't have these issues. I remember not even 15 years ago Honda was one of the most trusted car brands. You knew what you were getting. Honda made sure you knew what you were getting. Now, I wouldn't put it in the top ten, and Honda is firmly in control of the bean counters. Sad to see (In my extended family I have had two lemon vehicles in the last 5 years, out of two. Mine is the third, and it should be a lemon too).

 

For my 08 Fit that doesn't come with anything other than bare metal, I bought 4 cans of 3M professional grade rubberized coating. It does two things: reduce cabin noise slightly and protect the exposed metal from salt and rust.
It feels like hardened gum and takes only an hour to dry.
So far held up very well in the last two months and I don't expect the need to spray anymore ever.
Just a product to consider if you guys want to spray some protectant in between the felts.

 

Iowa- of course Honda has final responsibility for the car and can't point the customer to the supplier and say "talk to him."

But if it's due to a supplier screwup, Honda is that supplier's customer and goes to the supplier and says "The parts you sold us weren't to our specification, now make it right!" Then Honda's the good guy fixing problems that they didn't create. That's why I think these were made exactly the way Honda wanted them- Honda isn't addressing complaints because while the parts aren't satisfying, they aren't faulty either.

 

Of course that is how Honda designed it. The manufacturer made it to spec, Honda got samples, checked it out, multiple people and executives signed on the dotted line and approved it.

Do you really think the product the supplier shipped was different from that and Honda just said "Eh, good enough" and slapped it on thousands of cars? That did not, and would never happen.

If you were wondering how they fit all those new, extra gadgets in the 2015 and sold it at the same price as the 2013, here's a small example. Take it for what it is.

 

like i say.. does it affect driving or function of the car? no..
is it poor design and mounted improperly? yes...
it's not quite a defect but isn't the way it should be design either, any 3 year old can see that.
it's unfortunate the engineers isn't pay attentions to details like that.

i just removed my liner and threw it in the garbage.

 

Off course it doesn't affect much right away but a poor design/execution in that area can cause major rusting in the areas roads get salted.
In the past Honda used to put rubber gaskets on that particular inner lip, which trapped water. Guess where was the starting point for rust?

Did you notice any increase in road noise after removing the liner?

 

I too noticed the liner at the rear of my EX-L was doing the same thing as you guys have posted.

I can easily pull it down so makes me wonder how will it hold up over time? Lucky I don't live around the snow regions but still I feel for everybody who have to deal with this regardless of where they live.

So I will be looking for ways to better secure the liner or take it out and use some rubber coating to protect the metal from rocks and debris.

It's simply a bad design. They could have used plastic shroud cage with liner clipped onto it to make it more secure. How much did Honda saved with this approved cost cutting measure? Since right now it's not a safety issue so Honda won't do a recall on it. This winter might prove otherwise.

 

The build date of my FIT is 11/2014.

I couldn't believe Honda could not come up with a better design that would "fit" better on a car they named "FIT".

Below is the Right Hand (passenger) side.






Below is the Left Hand (driver) side - has bigger gap/wore than the RH side.







I just called American Honda and reported this issue. The gir named Elisha answered and this is the summary of my call:

> She has never heard this problem.
> I need to take car to a dealer first in order to start anything.
> She won't give me their email address where I can send these photos. I kept telling her, "I'm not asking to fix it right now. I just want American Honda to study the problem in case they are not aware". But she won't give it.
> She says I can FAX printed photos instead. (Wake up, this is not 80's!).
> One of Honda "case managers" will call me on the Jan 5th at the earliest. They are all off this week.
> I received my case #, N012014-12-29-02XXX.

I don't want to go to a dealer just to be told "that's the way it is on 2015 Fit".

 

Unless it's a safety issue Honda won't "fix" it. All the Fits EX and EX-L are like that. Some worse than others.

Someone here got fed up and just took them off the car. Tossed em in the trash.

I probably would have done the same but like the noise damping material right now. I may in a couple of months take it off and put some rigid strips of plastic on the inside and have the end clips of the wheel well hold it properly. Something simple Honda could have done.

 

I have the same issue with my brand new Silver 2015 Honda Fit ex, manny tranny!
The rear wheel well liners are saggging! I have the local dealer informed and they will report to the Honda Rep. and also I just got off the phone with Honda Customer Service with a case number. I told Honda Corp. I would like a fix. We shall see!

 

I'm thinking about it. Though my EX has a fairly quiet ride it's pretty obvious on dirt roads that there's not much of an attempt at sound deadening in the wheel wells. Every little pebble tossed is extremely loud.