Rear wheel well question
Local dealer reported to corporate Honda that it is indeed a problem with the design on my car and other fits on their lot.
I talked to Betty on Jan. 21st and told her I still want a fix and to not close my ticket with corporate.
My Ticket with Betty at corporate was updated with..........
It's a design issue flaw, waiting response from engineering/Betty.
So we will have to see what is done. I will again keep everyone posted.
I talked to Betty on Jan. 21st and told her I still want a fix and to not close my ticket with corporate.
My Ticket with Betty at corporate was updated with..........
It's a design issue flaw, waiting response from engineering/Betty.
So we will have to see what is done. I will again keep everyone posted.
Jan. 27th, 2015
OK, Betty called me back today. Engineers know about problem with the rear wheel well liners and she closed my ticket even at my objection. I told her I still want a fix. So it's officially more waiting ....for what I don't know, I am hoping a service bulletin or recall.
Last edited by bbhondaguy; Jan 27, 2015 at 08:31 PM.
Jan. 27th, 2015
OK, Betty called me back today. Engineers know about problem with the rear wheel well liners and she closed my ticket even at my objection. I told her I still want a fix. So it's officially more waiting ....for what I don't know, I am hoping a service bulletin or recall.
OK, Betty called me back today. Engineers know about problem with the rear wheel well liners and she closed my ticket even at my objection. I told her I still want a fix. So it's officially more waiting ....for what I don't know, I am hoping a service bulletin or recall.
I really don't understand what American Honda means by "closing the ticket or case" when the problem is not fixed. ???
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Just finished reading this thread for the first time. I have had my '15 EX CVT since August and did not know of the problem until prompted by the thread to go outside and check; yup, both rear wheel well liners have the gap. I will call the service number, describe the problem, and get a case #. I still feel like my Fit is pretty well finished/trimmed, but definitely want to attend to this design glitch. I keep thinking of various adhesives and adhesive velcro strips, but I get the idea. Will make the call and be counted for sure! Thanks to all for bringing this forward. 


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It means that Honda will do nothing to correct the problem until, and if, the engineers decide it warrants a solution. They put this issue on a big list and prioritize it. They closed my case also.
But I interpret as "done deal for now".
Anyway, American Honda telling their customers "closed case" doesn't sound right when they did nothing to correct the problem, especially to those who took their newly purchased brand new car to a dealer just to be told "that's the way it is". It's more than disappointing to hear something like that from the renowned company like Honda.
Last edited by Chazman; Jan 28, 2015 at 10:53 AM.
I thought of similar stuff like RTV, glue, etc.
Another technical issue is what to do about the gap between the liner and the fender edge or lip?
Since a mega company like Honda could not come up with a proper solution for about a year now, and they are still producing cars like that, we know it ain't easy.
Another technical issue is what to do about the gap between the liner and the fender edge or lip?
Since a mega company like Honda could not come up with a proper solution for about a year now, and they are still producing cars like that, we know it ain't easy.
Last edited by Chazman; Jan 28, 2015 at 11:42 AM.
I think that the liners would have to actually be falling off before Honda would do anything in current production. Even if you brought one in that was severely sagging the fix would either be to replace it with the same part or just shove it back into place with some stickum.
Right now Honda's view is probably that there are some forum rabblerousers getting together to complain about an imaginary problem.
Right now Honda's view is probably that there are some forum rabblerousers getting together to complain about an imaginary problem.
I think that the liners would have to actually be falling off before Honda would do anything in current production. Even if you brought one in that was severely sagging the fix would either be to replace it with the same part or just shove it back into place with some stickum.
Right now Honda's view is probably that there are some forum rabblerousers getting together to complain about an imaginary problem.
Right now Honda's view is probably that there are some forum rabblerousers getting together to complain about an imaginary problem.
yes but what about when a class-action suit is brought about due to the rust that inevitably will start prematurely due to this flaw?
Having a ticket number might be helpful then...
That's the MOST important thing to do for '15 Fit owners for those who want something to be done about the problem. And it should be done ASAP. Calling American Honda is more important than taking your car to a dealer who is just a middleman between consumers and Honda corporate.
It's all about making a record/document in the very ealry stage of ownership of the vehicle. So that later, in case, Honda can't say this was due to usage or whatever excuse they may come up with.
It's all about making a record/document in the very ealry stage of ownership of the vehicle. So that later, in case, Honda can't say this was due to usage or whatever excuse they may come up with.
Just finished reading this thread for the first time. I have had my '15 EX CVT since August and did not know of the problem until prompted by the thread to go outside and check; yup, both rear wheel well liners have the gap. I will call the service number, describe the problem, and get a case #. I still feel like my Fit is pretty well finished/trimmed, but definitely want to attend to this design glitch. I keep thinking of various adhesives and adhesive velcro strips, but I get the idea. Will make the call and be counted for sure! Thanks to all for bringing this forward. 


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Last edited by Fitster C.; Jan 28, 2015 at 10:07 PM.
What exactly do we look for?
Can anybody explain what to look for exactly to know if it's a problem?
I can see the liner on my new EX, but to find any gap I have to go looking. I can push the liner closer to the metal wheel well, but there isn't a noticeable gap that I can see at a glance (maybe I need better lighting).
So this fabric stuff is part of the sound dampening, right? LX wouldn't have it because it doesn't have the sound dampening, but EX and EX-L do. That's part of the many upgrades from the LX. (While the LX is optimized for fuel economy.)
Is the metal on the inside of the wheel well just bare metal or is it coated with something?
I would think the liner couldn't be too tight to allow for expansion and contraction of the metal... But I definitely wouldn't want sand, salt, or other debris trapped between the liner and the car.
Thanks.
I can see the liner on my new EX, but to find any gap I have to go looking. I can push the liner closer to the metal wheel well, but there isn't a noticeable gap that I can see at a glance (maybe I need better lighting).
So this fabric stuff is part of the sound dampening, right? LX wouldn't have it because it doesn't have the sound dampening, but EX and EX-L do. That's part of the many upgrades from the LX. (While the LX is optimized for fuel economy.)
Is the metal on the inside of the wheel well just bare metal or is it coated with something?
I would think the liner couldn't be too tight to allow for expansion and contraction of the metal... But I definitely wouldn't want sand, salt, or other debris trapped between the liner and the car.
Thanks.
Can anybody explain what to look for exactly to know if it's a problem?
I can see the liner on my new EX, but to find any gap I have to go looking. I can push the liner closer to the metal wheel well, but there isn't a noticeable gap that I can see at a glance (maybe I need better lighting).
So this fabric stuff is part of the sound dampening, right? LX wouldn't have it because it doesn't have the sound dampening, but EX and EX-L do. That's part of the many upgrades from the LX. (While the LX is optimized for fuel economy.)
Is the metal on the inside of the wheel well just bare metal or is it coated with something?
I would think the liner couldn't be too tight to allow for expansion and contraction of the metal... But I definitely wouldn't want sand, salt, or other debris trapped between the liner and the car.
Thanks.
I can see the liner on my new EX, but to find any gap I have to go looking. I can push the liner closer to the metal wheel well, but there isn't a noticeable gap that I can see at a glance (maybe I need better lighting).
So this fabric stuff is part of the sound dampening, right? LX wouldn't have it because it doesn't have the sound dampening, but EX and EX-L do. That's part of the many upgrades from the LX. (While the LX is optimized for fuel economy.)
Is the metal on the inside of the wheel well just bare metal or is it coated with something?
I would think the liner couldn't be too tight to allow for expansion and contraction of the metal... But I definitely wouldn't want sand, salt, or other debris trapped between the liner and the car.
Thanks.
Check them out.
We will find out when the liner falls off!
If not, then that would help everyone's case in getting theirs fixed by Honda.
Thanks, I missed some of the photos earlier in this thread.
I think my new Fit has this issue to some extent, but not nearly as bad as some of the photos show.
I would definitely be concerned that prolonged exposure to rain, snow, and mud would weigh it down make it worse. In prior years, I've seen wheel wells fill with stuck-on snow and ice on a bad day. That fabric would be a fertile breeding ground for icicles and salt crystals! If it became loose enough I would think it could get caught in a wheel. Maybe that's why it's not on the front tires.
For folks who have removed their liners or who have severely sagging liners, can you tell if it's bare metal under there or is it coated with something?
(Never had to worry about rust with my old Saturn. Gotta give props to those polymer side panels and doors.)
Thank you!
I think my new Fit has this issue to some extent, but not nearly as bad as some of the photos show.
I would definitely be concerned that prolonged exposure to rain, snow, and mud would weigh it down make it worse. In prior years, I've seen wheel wells fill with stuck-on snow and ice on a bad day. That fabric would be a fertile breeding ground for icicles and salt crystals! If it became loose enough I would think it could get caught in a wheel. Maybe that's why it's not on the front tires.
For folks who have removed their liners or who have severely sagging liners, can you tell if it's bare metal under there or is it coated with something?
(Never had to worry about rust with my old Saturn. Gotta give props to those polymer side panels and doors.)
Thank you!
Can anybody explain what to look for exactly to know if it's a problem?
I can see the liner on my new EX, but to find any gap I have to go looking. I can push the liner closer to the metal wheel well, but there isn't a noticeable gap that I can see at a glance (maybe I need better lighting).
So this fabric stuff is part of the sound dampening, right? LX wouldn't have it because it doesn't have the sound dampening, but EX and EX-L do. That's part of the many upgrades from the LX. (While the LX is optimized for fuel economy.)
Is the metal on the inside of the wheel well just bare metal or is it coated with something?
I would think the liner couldn't be too tight to allow for expansion and contraction of the metal... But I definitely wouldn't want sand, salt, or other debris trapped between the liner and the car.
Thanks.
I can see the liner on my new EX, but to find any gap I have to go looking. I can push the liner closer to the metal wheel well, but there isn't a noticeable gap that I can see at a glance (maybe I need better lighting).
So this fabric stuff is part of the sound dampening, right? LX wouldn't have it because it doesn't have the sound dampening, but EX and EX-L do. That's part of the many upgrades from the LX. (While the LX is optimized for fuel economy.)
Is the metal on the inside of the wheel well just bare metal or is it coated with something?
I would think the liner couldn't be too tight to allow for expansion and contraction of the metal... But I definitely wouldn't want sand, salt, or other debris trapped between the liner and the car.
Thanks.
Call American Honda Customer Service if not done yet and let them know your concern!
And don't forget to get your case # from the rep.
And don't forget to get your case # from the rep.
On our 2015, the thing labeled "Wheel Well Liner Margin" sits on top of the thing labeled "Upper Wheel Well Outer Margin." I don't think I could get ours to look like that without a significant amount of prying.
Last edited by Fitmo; Jan 29, 2015 at 08:14 AM.



