Unorthodox Racing pulley sets IN STOCK!!
Good choice and don't worry about your bearings. I have web friends in other countries who have had solid pulleys installed for over 5 years and still ticking along like the durecell bunny no problems.
The worst part of the job is getting the fre#$%^ing bolt broke loose. It can be a stone bitch on some cars on others it is real easy to get off. Try first with a breaker bar and a 6 point socket with the engine in gear not running and a helper holding the brakes on tight.
If that isn't enough to get it loose hold on to your butt. No really if you know someone with an impact gun beg, borrow, or rent (bet you thought I was going to say steal) one. MOST of the time they have enough torque to break the bolt loose without anything else.
But if you still can't get it loose you will need to make, beg, borrow or rent a Honda pulley holding tool. If you look at your stock pulley there are facets cut that look like a large nut could be shoved into the pulley and that is what the holding tool looks like, a big hollow nut welded onto the end of a length of pipe or fittings for a breaker bar. what it does is holds the pulley from turning by inserting the nut into the pulley then turning it up against to frame or part of the engine to physically hold the pulley from turning. THEN you need you and or someone real strong to slip a length of pipe onto the end of a strong breaker bar so it is longer and you have more leverage and pull or push until the nut is loose with the pulley being held in place by the holding tool. WHEW it can be a tough job or it may come right out there is no way of knowing without trying it.
The rest of the job is very easy loosen the altenator and slide it inward to get the belt loose take the old pulley off, put the new one on and tightening it, then make sure the belt is still in the proper postion and tighten the belt done.
There are a couple of guys, like gettingafit,and I think wave, and leonine that have done it and they have posts somewhere try pming them if they remember which post it is in, and good luck
If that isn't enough to get it loose hold on to your butt. No really if you know someone with an impact gun beg, borrow, or rent (bet you thought I was going to say steal) one. MOST of the time they have enough torque to break the bolt loose without anything else.
But if you still can't get it loose you will need to make, beg, borrow or rent a Honda pulley holding tool. If you look at your stock pulley there are facets cut that look like a large nut could be shoved into the pulley and that is what the holding tool looks like, a big hollow nut welded onto the end of a length of pipe or fittings for a breaker bar. what it does is holds the pulley from turning by inserting the nut into the pulley then turning it up against to frame or part of the engine to physically hold the pulley from turning. THEN you need you and or someone real strong to slip a length of pipe onto the end of a strong breaker bar so it is longer and you have more leverage and pull or push until the nut is loose with the pulley being held in place by the holding tool. WHEW it can be a tough job or it may come right out there is no way of knowing without trying it.
The rest of the job is very easy loosen the altenator and slide it inward to get the belt loose take the old pulley off, put the new one on and tightening it, then make sure the belt is still in the proper postion and tighten the belt done.
There are a couple of guys, like gettingafit,and I think wave, and leonine that have done it and they have posts somewhere try pming them if they remember which post it is in, and good luck
Basically like I have said from the beginning until somebody commits to doing a test (complete with test & control car) the extra wear on the components caused by an undampened pulley from the additional deflection and slight harmonic imbalance (on the pulley itself, not the crank) is basically an unquantifiable amount. Everything I have been reading has pointed to 40,000 to 50,000 miles before wear becomes distinctly more noticeable but not to the point where a failure would occur.
The rate at which I put kilometers on my car would see me easily through another 6 or 7 years before I need to have it checked out. lol, I will post up the results of that checkup for everybody in 2014
Holy hell that thing is on tight. We've got an impact gun, and we've near stood on a breaker bar too...
Luckily I remembered I dl'd a Jazz/Fit manual 2 years ago. I can see this special tool.
How many ft-lb should our impact gun pack? I suspect ours isn't strong enough...
Luckily I remembered I dl'd a Jazz/Fit manual 2 years ago. I can see this special tool.
How many ft-lb should our impact gun pack? I suspect ours isn't strong enough...
Last edited by xorbe; May 31, 2008 at 04:31 PM.
I didn't manage to loosen the crankshaft bolt today, but I did get the special 50mm tool tonight, and will try again next weekend. (And I have an a/t). I want to do this UR crank pulley mod before mounting my new rims or anything else, so I can get a feel for whether it's helping or not. (I'll do the alt pulley afterwards.)
Last edited by xorbe; Jun 7, 2008 at 01:36 PM.
One thing you can do if you are dead set on DIY is take it to a shop and have them loosen the bolt with a BIG IMPACT gun. It shouldn't be too much money to put it on a lift remove the wheel to get straight onto the bolt then simply tighten it again to torque spec. not with the impact gun and drive home. Getting it loose again once it's been loosened up should be easier.
I didn't manage to loosen the crankshaft bolt today, but I did get the special 50mm tool tonight, and will try again next weekend. (And I have an a/t). I want to do this UR crank pulley mod before mounting my new rims or anything else, so I can get a feel for whether it's helping or not. (I'll do the alt pulley afterwards.)
the bolt if the engine is cold!!!
You know that big-4$$ 50mm socket for holding the crankshaft pulley while you loosen the 19mm center bolt? It's about 1/3" thick black steel. It's massive.
I stopped trying because I was lifting the front of the vehicle up bouncing on a 3' breaker bar (3x150 lbs + bouncing = 450+ ft-lbs). I bent the 50mm socket all up, it's hosed! I give up, I'll have to go to a car shop to loosen that bolt up. (I'll post a photo of the 50mm socket later, no SD card reader here.)
Like this: Honda and Acura Timing Belt Tips, Crank Pulley Tool
I stopped trying because I was lifting the front of the vehicle up bouncing on a 3' breaker bar (3x150 lbs + bouncing = 450+ ft-lbs). I bent the 50mm socket all up, it's hosed! I give up, I'll have to go to a car shop to loosen that bolt up. (I'll post a photo of the 50mm socket later, no SD card reader here.)
Like this: Honda and Acura Timing Belt Tips, Crank Pulley Tool
ARRGG!!!! STUPID FREAKING UPS!!!!!
Well my Pulley is here and knocking at my door... but I can't get it because I am at work and they are showing up randomly at different times of the day and days of the week.
Me: Hello, I received a tag from UPS. there is an instruction on it to give you my buzzer number. Also I would like to let the driver know to leave the package with our doorman as I won't be home to accept it.
UPS: What is the reference number on the tag
Me: gives reference number
UPS: What is your address
Me: gives address
UPS: I'm sorry, the address we have is (some far place across the city)
Me:Ok, the tag has my name and was delivered to the correct address
UPS: I'm sorry, there is nothing I can do
Me:can we verify the reference number (gives reference number again)
UPS: Yes, that is the correct number
Me:...can we redirect the package to the corr....
UPS: SIR! As I said, there is nothing I can do *click*
WTF!!
So anyway, luckily the driver left a message on my work phone with the tracking number the next day and low and behold; now they have the correct address suddenly... only they haven't made another attempt to deliver now in the past 3 days!!!!
I am sure this isn't the end of the UPS retard fun; probably going to end up pulling my hair out over this
Well my Pulley is here and knocking at my door... but I can't get it because I am at work and they are showing up randomly at different times of the day and days of the week.
Me: Hello, I received a tag from UPS. there is an instruction on it to give you my buzzer number. Also I would like to let the driver know to leave the package with our doorman as I won't be home to accept it.
UPS: What is the reference number on the tag
Me: gives reference number
UPS: What is your address
Me: gives address
UPS: I'm sorry, the address we have is (some far place across the city)
Me:Ok, the tag has my name and was delivered to the correct address
UPS: I'm sorry, there is nothing I can do
Me:can we verify the reference number (gives reference number again)
UPS: Yes, that is the correct number
Me:...can we redirect the package to the corr....
UPS: SIR! As I said, there is nothing I can do *click*
WTF!!So anyway, luckily the driver left a message on my work phone with the tracking number the next day and low and behold; now they have the correct address suddenly... only they haven't made another attempt to deliver now in the past 3 days!!!!
I am sure this isn't the end of the UPS retard fun; probably going to end up pulling my hair out over this
Last edited by Sugarphreak; Jun 13, 2008 at 12:32 AM.
Tomorrow I am going to buy a bigger impact gun, because my Dad's setup is apparently only 230 ft-lb forward, and less in reverse. If that doesn't do it, I'm driving it to a car shop to have them loosen it and gently tug it back on. Here's that photo I promised (but I posted it to the other thread):
Central Pneumatic 1400 ft-lb FTW! I did my little 0-60 country run, although the weather is 10-20F hotter now, it got the same time. So at least I know that it does not impact performance negatively (contrary to another report). I'll try to retest in the early morning with some similar 60s weather to my previous stock testing.
Also, I could be hallucinating, but I thought my a/t was shifting around 6200-6300 rpm previously, and tonight it was shifting at 6500 redline. The butt dyno says that it might yank off the line just a little harder (just for an instant), but that's all. Who knows.
I initially tested in the heat of the afternoon (99F) and dang, heat is a power sapper!
update: I tried again this morning, and my best attempts have improved by ~0.4s consistently on the a/t. Well I'm going to keep it fwiw. I'll try to install the alt pulley today.
Also, I could be hallucinating, but I thought my a/t was shifting around 6200-6300 rpm previously, and tonight it was shifting at 6500 redline. The butt dyno says that it might yank off the line just a little harder (just for an instant), but that's all. Who knows.
I initially tested in the heat of the afternoon (99F) and dang, heat is a power sapper!
update: I tried again this morning, and my best attempts have improved by ~0.4s consistently on the a/t. Well I'm going to keep it fwiw. I'll try to install the alt pulley today.
Last edited by xorbe; Jun 15, 2008 at 10:14 AM.
How the heck did you get at the third bolt on the back side at the bottom?? The topside two are no problem.
Central Pneumatic 1400 ft-lb FTW! I did my little 0-60 country run, although the weather is 10-20F hotter now, it got the same time. So at least I know that it does not impact performance negatively (contrary to another report). I'll try to retest in the early morning with some similar 60s weather to my previous stock testing.
Also, I could be hallucinating, but I thought my a/t was shifting around 6200-6300 rpm previously, and tonight it was shifting at 6500 redline. The butt dyno says that it might yank off the line just a little harder (just for an instant), but that's all. Who knows.
I initially tested in the heat of the afternoon (99F) and dang, heat is a power sapper!
update: I tried again this morning, and my best attempts have improved by ~0.4s consistently on the a/t. Well I'm going to keep it fwiw. I'll try to install the alt pulley today.
Also, I could be hallucinating, but I thought my a/t was shifting around 6200-6300 rpm previously, and tonight it was shifting at 6500 redline. The butt dyno says that it might yank off the line just a little harder (just for an instant), but that's all. Who knows.
I initially tested in the heat of the afternoon (99F) and dang, heat is a power sapper!
update: I tried again this morning, and my best attempts have improved by ~0.4s consistently on the a/t. Well I'm going to keep it fwiw. I'll try to install the alt pulley today.
ARGG!!!!
So after a length conversation on Friday about re-routing the package to my office, it never showed and instead I came home to another yellow tag.... only they skipped the 2nd attempt and went right to the Final Attempt box!!!



I phoned UPS back, a very nice girl named Cindy helped me out and they were supposed to phone back and confirm within 1 hour if the package was going to be delivered or I had to pick it up tomorrow.... it is now 4 hours later.
I am never going to get my pulleys
So after a length conversation on Friday about re-routing the package to my office, it never showed and instead I came home to another yellow tag.... only they skipped the 2nd attempt and went right to the Final Attempt box!!!




I phoned UPS back, a very nice girl named Cindy helped me out and they were supposed to phone back and confirm within 1 hour if the package was going to be delivered or I had to pick it up tomorrow.... it is now 4 hours later.
I am never going to get my pulleys



