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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 06:32 PM
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The SuperCard is a sealed unit, and is not able to be reflashed.

-Oscar Jackson Jr.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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Coming from a turbo charged car I can say that it was always difficult to maintain full boost pressure at high rpms with a smaller turbo, because it could not flow enough air. I am not sure the size of the rotrex so you'd have to see on a gauge or learn from one of the testers

The blower should make it's full 5psi at top rpm, as it seems to be 'fit' perfectly for a L15a, plus remember that this same blower except with a smaller pulley will be used for the 10psi kit.

The problem with turbos being too small (1.8T), is that it will over spin too fast to try to make more boost, hence a 1.8T motor that is chipped can make 18psi up to about 4500rpm, then it start to drop and around red-line it only makes 12psi. This is caused by many reasons one being the housing is too small, and the air that is coming out is getting very hot, and useless.

The charged system does have a flat torque curve, because the supercharger acts like a multiplier. The base fit map also has a reasonable flat torque curve, just much lower. With proper management, you can control how much torque you want (to a certain amount) from ignition timing etc.

It seems to me like a lot of people are worried about the lower gain in torque. Coming from a 1.8T I can tell you torque is fun, but costs you internal parts and tranny's. One thing I love about Honda's design is that they are lower torque high HP motors. Once you get the car moving past 4000rpm all you do is keep it in the sweet spot, and you'll gain ~50whp, with out having to go through as many trannies as I have on my old car. When on the 'track' everyone always shifts near the limiter, this is because this is where the power is. Torque is only good to get you moving, towing and low rpm passing, apart from these three things it only causes head aches.
 
Old Jan 24, 2008 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 07_g_fit
The blower should make it's full 5psi at top rpm, as it seems to be 'fit' perfectly for a L15a, plus remember that this same blower except with a smaller pulley will be used for the 10psi kit.

The problem with turbos being too small (1.8T), is that it will over spin too fast to try to make more boost, hence a 1.8T motor that is chipped can make 18psi up to about 4500rpm, then it start to drop and around red-line it only makes 12psi. This is caused by many reasons one being the housing is too small, and the air that is coming out is getting very hot, and useless.

The charged system does have a flat torque curve, because the supercharger acts like a multiplier. The base fit map also has a reasonable flat torque curve, just much lower. With proper management, you can control how much torque you want (to a certain amount) from ignition timing etc.

It seems to me like a lot of people are worried about the lower gain in torque. Coming from a 1.8T I can tell you torque is fun, but costs you internal parts and tranny's. One thing I love about Honda's design is that they are lower torque high HP motors. Once you get the car moving past 4000rpm all you do is keep it in the sweet spot, and you'll gain ~50whp, with out having to go through as many trannies as I have on my old car. When on the 'track' everyone always shifts near the limiter, this is because this is where the power is. Torque is only good to get you moving, towing and low rpm passing, apart from these three things it only causes head aches.


according to the commentary and the dyno in siphon, there is incredible amounts of torque when compared to stock on the KWSC. i don't think we will have this issue.
 
Old Jan 26, 2008 | 12:31 AM
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So when can I buy the kit?
 
Old Jan 26, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 07_g_fit


It seems to me like a lot of people are worried about the lower gain in torque.
Low end torque with 5 psi boost in city driving should not cause much stress on the internals, no?

Thanks for your comments/explanations
 
Old Jan 26, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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So when can I buy the kit?
pre orders should be out very soon. If you look on the site, there are pre orders on the S2K kit, Fit kit is almost there.
 
Old Jan 26, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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Hey Oscar jr., I was wondering if it will be possible to go and pick the kit up from you guys directly instead of paying for shipping?
 
Old Jan 26, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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Hey Oscar jr., I was wondering if it will be possible to go and pick the kit up from you guys directly instead of paying for shipping?
me too... cause i absolutely hate shipping costs when i can pickup myself.
 
Old Jan 26, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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how is the 5# kit "carb pending" approval process coming along?
 
Old Jan 27, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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i seriously cannot wait to get one
 
Old Jan 27, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by WhaTisJDM?
i seriously cannot wait to get one

me neither.

unfortunately i fall in the group of people who isn't going to be getting it for awhile.

(i wonder how many of us frequent this thread, but wont even get it for the next 1-3 years?)
 
Old Jan 27, 2008 | 11:12 PM
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me neither.

unfortunately i fall in the group of people who isn't going to be getting it for awhile.

(i wonder how many of us frequent this thread, but wont even get it for the next 1-3 years?)
All that matters is you get one!
 
Old Jan 27, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JDMchris.com
pre orders should be out very soon. If you look on the site, there are pre orders on the S2K kit, Fit kit is almost there.
Hey i was wondering...did you get your kits pipiing powder coated or is that how it will come for all of us?
 
Old Jan 28, 2008 | 08:57 AM
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will this kit void warranty (im thinking an obvious yes, but hopin no hehe!)
 
Old Jan 28, 2008 | 09:49 AM
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will this kit void warranty (im thinking an obvious yes, but hopin no hehe!)
yes it will anything with F.I will get your warranty voided... thats why im rocking the CAI/H/E for a couple more turns then F.I
 
Old Jan 28, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Kuturagi
will this kit void warranty (im thinking an obvious yes, but hopin no hehe!)

no it wont. this has been covered many times. there is a law somewhere that states that unless the mod (in this case the supercharger) directly causes a problem, it can't legally void your warranty.
 
Old Jan 28, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Zangoose GD3 Blue
yes it will anything with F.I will get your warranty voided... thats why im rocking the CAI/H/E for a couple more turns then F.I

not neccessarily true. and if your intake or headers WERE the cause of some future problem and they can direclty link it, you would have a voided warranty.
 
Old Jan 28, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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will this kit void warranty (im thinking an obvious yes, but hopin no hehe!)
its basically a bolt on...if anything just take it off and play dumb. Be sure to keep all your stock parts.
 
Old Jan 29, 2008 | 12:23 AM
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anyone who comes to get a motor warrantied due to damage,we look into the computer or "black box" that tells u everything the motr has been through. so they can tell the power, afr's, rpms, pretty much anything. so im not so sure just taking it all off will get u by...ive bever actually witnessed a case such as this tho. and FI that isnt a dealer installed/product will void ur POWERTRAIN warranty due to the increased stress.
 
Old Jan 29, 2008 | 01:17 AM
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given that the motor is basically "tricked" into generating more power with the 5# kit, i'm not sure how easy it would be to spot. i know vw's actually know how much torque the dsg transmission is handling and will cut fuel if it exceeds ~260 ft-lb, but i doubt our little hondas have anything like that. (of course the 10# kit is a different world with electronics change.) rpms don't tell anything. af ratio would still probably be in range.
 



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