KRAFTWERKS SUPERCHARGER aka (Jackson Racing)
Hahah read the responses I got. I asked the same question... I've been told this for being repative... READ... everthing... haha took a while, but it's worth it, and it helps! the answer to that question is in the last three pages.
Bypass Valves and Blow-Off valves are similar. The only differences would be:
Blow-Off valves vent to atmosphere, not back into the intake system.
Bypass valves release pressure back into the intake system.
The bypass valve on this kit is an OE-quality bypass, so the sound is not extraordinarily loud. But you can hear it!
I figure that this bypass will satisfy everyone. Quiet, yet noticeable.
-Oscar Jackson Jr.
Blow-Off valves vent to atmosphere, not back into the intake system.
Bypass valves release pressure back into the intake system.
The bypass valve on this kit is an OE-quality bypass, so the sound is not extraordinarily loud. But you can hear it!
I figure that this bypass will satisfy everyone. Quiet, yet noticeable.
-Oscar Jackson Jr.
I'm looking forward to see the Kit out for AT!!!
curious...what is the reason asking about the speed limiter? I ask since you seem persistent in finding out. also do you exceed the speed limit on a regular basis or have a need to go that speed?
I doubt they would have it removed since I have an apexi super afc in a s14 and it doesn't work since it still doesn't prevent the fuel cut. piggybacks usally trick sensers but to trick the ecu of a speed limiter would be hard since it needs the info to provide fuel and timing especially in an A/T.
I doubt they would have it removed since I have an apexi super afc in a s14 and it doesn't work since it still doesn't prevent the fuel cut. piggybacks usally trick sensers but to trick the ecu of a speed limiter would be hard since it needs the info to provide fuel and timing especially in an A/T.
because he's convinced that the fit doesn't have one and that there is no visual underhood component that proves its existence apparently.
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curious...what is the reason asking about the speed limiter? I ask since you seem persistent in finding out. also do you exceed the speed limit on a regular basis or have a need to go that speed?
I doubt they would have it removed since I have an apexi super afc in a s14 and it doesn't work since it still doesn't prevent the fuel cut. piggybacks usally trick sensers but to trick the ecu of a speed limiter would be hard since it needs the info to provide fuel and timing especially in an A/T.
I doubt they would have it removed since I have an apexi super afc in a s14 and it doesn't work since it still doesn't prevent the fuel cut. piggybacks usally trick sensers but to trick the ecu of a speed limiter would be hard since it needs the info to provide fuel and timing especially in an A/T.
Because I would like to know the answer haven't you read the thread and the discussion?????? Why does it matter to you what speed I drive???
SOMEONE ELSE STARTED THIS LINE OF QUESTIONING
See post #487 from 1legitfit on page 24 date 12-27-07
"Last question...will the SC ECU update remove speed limiter and increase RPM/redline?" so get on his case
But it's a legitimate question either they found one and couldn't modify it, or they didn't bother to look in the first place.
They said they didn't modify it but the question remains did they bother to look? And will they be able to modify one if a customer wants them to.... if there is one does their ECU mod have a section to modify ANY VEHICLE SPEED LIMITER.
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This type of answer has the merit of cutting the subject short. But there are lots of other members who like me have already invested into complementary mods such as aftermarket intake, header, exhaust or... lightened pulley, and may be looking for an even more significant boost..
I have been following the discussions about SuperCharge vs Turbo since the very beginning and have read this tread all along. I recognize that a quality product must go through lots of trials B4 its final release. So I wonder why this particular pulley, the Mythelogy, which is balanced (harmonic) and has the exact same size as the much heavier OEM would not be considered as a valuable option. It does contribute on its own to the responsivenes of the small engine and surely deserves some consideration other “reject”.
But if the Jackson’s kit will not suffer any “unknows”, than my choice will be easier to make.
I have been following the discussions about SuperCharge vs Turbo since the very beginning and have read this tread all along. I recognize that a quality product must go through lots of trials B4 its final release. So I wonder why this particular pulley, the Mythelogy, which is balanced (harmonic) and has the exact same size as the much heavier OEM would not be considered as a valuable option. It does contribute on its own to the responsivenes of the small engine and surely deserves some consideration other “reject”.
But if the Jackson’s kit will not suffer any “unknows”, than my choice will be easier to make.
It's just CYA policy, I'm sure. You run SC + modded pulley and engine breaks, well maybe the unbalanced pulley had a hand in it. ie, stock Fit + SC is what is being sold. Modded Fit + SC is you're-on-your-own probably. Intake, header, and exhaust don't really represent a threat to the longevity of the engine. (What other mod is popular around here that could affect the engine like the pulley?) Plus, the size of the pulley affects the boost, which will quickly move you out of any pretested results.
If the indentically-sized pulley is designed properly, then there should be little to worry about! But that's your call and responsibility, is what they are saying.
If the indentically-sized pulley is designed properly, then there should be little to worry about! But that's your call and responsibility, is what they are saying.
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It's just CYA policy, I'm sure. You run SC + modded pulley and engine breaks, well maybe the unbalanced pulley had a hand in it. ie, stock Fit + SC is what is being sold. Modded Fit + SC is you're-on-your-own probably. Intake, header, and exhaust don't really represent a threat to the longevity of the engine. (What other mod is popular around here that could affect the engine like the pulley?) Plus, the size of the pulley affects the boost, which will quickly move you out of any pretested results.
If the indentically-sized pulley is designed properly, then there should be little to worry about! But that's your call and responsibility, is what they are saying.
If the indentically-sized pulley is designed properly, then there should be little to worry about! But that's your call and responsibility, is what they are saying.
Exactly! And simple knowledge would indentify that with the Mytheology pulley at least there should be no apparent problems. Its identically sized, its balanced, has a harmonic balancer. It just weights less so there should be no ill effects from it. But I'd still like to hear the Jackson's direct input on that specific pulley as I am planning on investing in one soon and I'd like to know if I'll have problems with it once I buy this kit later in the year.
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We're not here to put down other products, but we have worked with street and race engines for a long time now. Oscar Sr. easily has 30+ years of experience building Honda race engines.
All Jackson Racing championship-winning race cars have used a harmonic dampened crank pulley. The Skunk2 9-sec NA drag engines use harmonic dampened crank pulleys. NASCAR, IMSA, F1... Every great engine builder that we have met uses harmonic dampened crank pulleys.
Now I'm not trying to start "thread fire", I'm just trying to explain why we do not recommend lightweight crank pulleys with our kits.
All Jackson Racing championship-winning race cars have used a harmonic dampened crank pulley. The Skunk2 9-sec NA drag engines use harmonic dampened crank pulleys. NASCAR, IMSA, F1... Every great engine builder that we have met uses harmonic dampened crank pulleys.
Now I'm not trying to start "thread fire", I'm just trying to explain why we do not recommend lightweight crank pulleys with our kits.
It really is up to you. Requirements, and recommendations are two separate things. The kit does not require a stock crank pulley, but a stock crank pulley is highly recommended.
We are not going to put down another manufacturer, that's just not us. Products change and evolve. But from our years of engine building, we only use stock, or high-quality, dampened, crank pulleys.
I think the link JDMChris posted is also a good source of information.
-Oscar Jackson Jr.
Because I would like to know the answer haven't you read the thread and the discussion?????? Why does it matter to you what speed I drive???
SOMEONE ELSE STARTED THIS LINE OF QUESTIONING
See post #487 from 1legitfit on page 24 date 12-27-07
"Last question...will the SC ECU update remove speed limiter and increase RPM/redline?" so get on his case
But it's a legitimate question either they found one and couldn't modify it, or they didn't bother to look in the first place.
They said they didn't modify it but the question remains did they bother to look? And will they be able to modify one if a customer wants them to.... if there is one does their ECU mod have a section to modify ANY VEHICLE SPEED LIMITER.
SOMEONE ELSE STARTED THIS LINE OF QUESTIONING
See post #487 from 1legitfit on page 24 date 12-27-07
"Last question...will the SC ECU update remove speed limiter and increase RPM/redline?" so get on his case
But it's a legitimate question either they found one and couldn't modify it, or they didn't bother to look in the first place.
They said they didn't modify it but the question remains did they bother to look? And will they be able to modify one if a customer wants them to.... if there is one does their ECU mod have a section to modify ANY VEHICLE SPEED LIMITER.
Good grief you need some Riddlin. Why are you so defensive? he was just wondering why you were asking. This thread is long because of a ton of useless questions and I wouldn't classify his as that. It may have been very easy to have overlooked that particular part of someone elses post.
Sheesh.
I think my above statement can explain our feeling on lightweight crank pulleys. It really is up to you.
Requirements, and recommendations are two separate things. The kit does not require a stock crank pulley, but a stock crank pulley is highly recommended.
We are not going to put down another manufacturer, that's just not us. Products change and evolve. But from our years of engine building, we only use stock, or high-quality, dampened, crank pulleys.
I think the link JDMChris posted is also a good source of information.
-Oscar Jackson Jr.
It really is up to you. Requirements, and recommendations are two separate things. The kit does not require a stock crank pulley, but a stock crank pulley is highly recommended.
We are not going to put down another manufacturer, that's just not us. Products change and evolve. But from our years of engine building, we only use stock, or high-quality, dampened, crank pulleys.
I think the link JDMChris posted is also a good source of information.
-Oscar Jackson Jr.
1) does the kit comes with a software ?
2) how much hp the new kit have ?
if you have an auto tranny your probably looking at about 130-140hp to the wheels.
if you get the 10lb kit, you are looking at hp somewhere in the vicinity of 180-190 to the wheels.
so basically with the 5lb kit, you've got a fit with about 160 engine producing hp, and with the 10lb you've got a 210hp fit.(since most people cite what the engine produces and not whp. no one ever talks about the new 175hp to the wheels si, they just talk about the new 200hp civic si.)
lol, I asked my dad, "if you were going to burn $3500, would you swap in a lower ratio lsd into the Z4 or supercharge the Fit?" He said boost the Fit.
