My life, actually. But also specifying maintenance for the cars they designed.

When the maintenance minder tells people to change their oil at 3,000 do you tell them to ignore it?

 

The old 3000 mile oil changes is based on the old gasoline which contain 300ppm sulfur and because of the combustion process water was formed and would mix with the free sulfur and for sulfuric acid which would damage motors. The new oils have better base stocks and with the lower 35ppm sulfur gasolines they can go a lot longer between oil changes. The 07-08 Fits had a 6000 MM because that engine was built with the higher sulfur fuels that were available at the time they were invented and tested.

The 09-10 Fit engines are even more efficient and are made for the new lower sulfur gasolines. Just use the MM and check the oil level for signs of oil usage. Most dino oil are good to 4000-5000 miles from the oil manufacture and should last at least that long. Keep in mind that if the car manufacture like Honda says change oil at 15 percent MM then they know the oil will last that long in their cars.

Changing the oil to frequently is just as bad as leaving it in to long. The additives never work to protect the engine and Honda has there additive packages on the pistons skirts and they just get flushed out before they work.

 

Supposedly, it will automatically shift minor maintenance to coincide with major maintenance if they're are close enough together.

So, it kinda depends on just what you are resetting. Is it just an oil change? Or was there other maintenance that needed to be done at the same time?

Looking at the owner's manual pdf... there's A and B. A is just oil. B is oil and a whole lot of other stuff.

Then it begs the question... if you don't have it done at the dealer, can you reset just A, by itself? Or does it reset the whole thing? If its the whole thing, then it might get a little messed up.

 

Honda will tell you to stick as close to it as possible. I haven't heard feedback that details it, however.

I'm paying my Honda service a visit to have the tires rotated and talk about 7K miles and 40%. I'll ask about the MM details as well.

 

I found some info about gf5 oils. gf5 oil factory fill in 2010 cars API Motor Oil Service Classifications
gf5 is semi synthetic good for MM on hondas GF-5 Specification

The question at the dealer ship should be is the oil gf5, if they say yes then you know it semi synthetic oil.

 

Just to put in my two cents, I changed my oil at just over 1600 miles. Wanted to change it at 500 but that didn't work out.

The Honda service guy was like: what the hell guy!?

 

I had 7k miles and 40% left or maybe it was 50%,
but with the new oil, I the engine is smoother and got bit better mpg.

I will suction out few qts and put in syn 5w20 after another 4k miles.

 

I haven't visited this site for months and I'm chucking to see ANOTHER oil change thread right at the top.

I was thinking to myself, "Even if a Honda engineer who worked on the creation of the 1.5 liter engine in our Fit came on to this message board, registered, and then posted a message about when the oil should be changed, if you should follow the MM, what kind of oil is recommended, if the factory fill is actually a special additive break-in oil, etc, even then people would still debate the issue." LOL!

What I have learned is, people just like to hear themselves talk most times, and since it's a message board there is nothing wrong with that, but these kinds of threads are pointless now. There is enough information out there about oil changes just from doing a Google search that there should be no questions about when, and how a change should be done, and what are the best products to use. But, you know, and I know, these kinds of threads will never end, until cars no longer need oil to run, and then it will be something else, like what the best battery is to use and when it should be changed. I love it!

 

I am just curious why change you oil to soon, especially the break in oil. There is a limited amount of additives that Honda puts in and why wash them out. Your warranty might be voided for a spun bearing or valve train problems and its now recorded at the dealer. I can tell you from experience Honda will look for any thing to not make a claim. Every thing is a wear item to them.

 

I went to Wally world and looked at the oil. It looks like gf5 is out, Pennzoil is almost 4 dollars a quart and the same for Quaker State oils. Mobil oil is still under 3 dollars for their Clean 5000 motor oil. Pennzoil Ultra is almost 7 dollars a quart or 28 for 5 quart bottle. Mobil1 is still 21 dollars for a 5 quart bottle.

 

Not all so simple and objective as you portray it to be. The modern motor oils are not just "oils", they are marvels of engineering. There is so much to learn about oil and their production, that it will quickly reach your upper limits of understanding.

Stability of long hydrocarbon molecules, artificially synthesized oils, modern API standards such as SM and possibly coming SM, incompatibility of modern low zinc oils with older oils and its negative effect on flat tappet valvetrains.

It's like origin of life. You can either say: just read the bible (aka meter minder followers), or you can look for evidence and familiarize yourself with evolution, various dating techniques, plate tectonics, geological and biological sciences, etc...

Of course it's your choice how deep you want this topic to interest you. You can always go and look at pictures of newly installed visors or window stickers. Or talk about what you DON"T like about your fit

 

Lol, GF-4 was a marvel of an oil spec. GF-5 moreso. GF-5 was developed for specs so far beyond anything the 1.5l Fit engine will encounter that it's not even funny. But hey, everyone has to worry about something.

 

I got my first oil change at 7500 miles. I asked the dealer what oil they use and they said it Mobil oil from Honda, what ever that is. I also asked them about GF5 oil and they knew nothing and kept repeating its Honda oil. They put a sticker in the window for 3000 miles or 15% Mileage minder. They are trying to sell oil changes and services that are not needed so I told him I have to make my rounds and spoke to the sales person and he said I could buy the filters when needed and save receipts and most likely next oil change I will do my self. It cost me 5 dollars for oil change and tire rotation because I received a VIP 15 dollar coupon. I guess that because of all the cars I bought through the years.

 

Don't forget to pick up a hand-full of crush washers from the dealer. New one on the plug each oil change.

 

I will get them from the speed shop I go to. I am leasing the 2 cars and was worried I had to get all the services the dealer recommended. Dont have to worry about that. Its amazing that the customers knows more than the dealers. I have sold a few Scan Gauges buy talking about it at the dealer. I should ask them for a job.

 

GFS oil is a new one to me. just what is it and where is it from?

As for changing your own oil you should use Mobil 5W-20 oil, whichi the oil honda has packaged from them
Engine oil is NOT the place to be experimenting with some unknown oil.

 

GF5 oil is new Main GF-5 Site Home oil, its a oil additive package that protect newer engine better and especially E85 and leaves few deposits on the pistons.

I know the oil they use is bought in bulk and they said its Mobil 5w-20. I just read somewhere the new 2010 motor came from the factory with the new oil so I just want to use the new oil. Pennzoil is the only brand that I know is Gf5. Pennzoil Product and GF-5 Q&A

I will use Mobil 1 they have the best synthetic oil for the money.

 

Natural crude oil is a mixture of hydrocarbons, a simple organic found in nature while synthetic is also organics it ia mixture not found in nature. The reason synthetics are better is first the nature compounds deteriorate much faster under heat and pressure than synthetics and second the synthetics have one very strong advantage in that they don't thin out as easily as hydrocarbon oils and then shred in the close gaps between moving metal parts similar to what happens when you tear a paper towel. When that 'thin film' shreds, those close metal parts can then come in contact. Thats a strong no=no if you rev your enine over 4000 rpm. Because synthetics are way ahead in those two specs they last a lot longer and oil changes aren't as frequent, making up for the extra cost.
OK there's a third: it takes less energy to pump synthetics through the engine and thus lower pumping energy means greater mpg.

 

As was essentially stated above, RTFM and follow what it says, i.e. 15% on the maintenance minder or 12 months, whichever occurs first. Because my oil changes are so infrequent (and because it gets so damn hot in Phoenix) I've been running Mobil1 since the first oil change. The suggestion to change your oil every 3,750 miles is the m.o. of a shady dealerships trying to push more frequent maintenance in an attempt to line their pockets. I called several dealers in my area when my maintenance minder hit 15% and I went to the first one that actually suggested I only do the maintenance listed in the manual. I'm above 37,000 miles now and I haven't had a single problem.

On the other hand, I'm all for personal freedom... so, as long as you promise not to try and sell me your used Fit, do whatever you think "feels right".

 

I got 5,145 miles. 50% oil monitor. I drive 80% freeway, 20% city. Should i change it now or wait till i hit 15-20% on the oil monitor?