The 90000 bit is because of under-researched, reactionary twats like you. You can bet Honda doesn't feel like dealing with a bunch of loud litigious fools trying to haul them before congress for a brow beating by fat bureaucrats like they did with Toyota. Only to find in Toyota's case it was driver error. Just like with Audi's and unfounded allegations of sudden acceleration in the 90s. But now ECUs have more onboard memory for drive cycles.

There have been only two USDM GE's that have had any sort of LMS failure reported so far. And only one of which called for a new engine. Out of 90k.

I would ask you to do the math, but.. that may be asking too much.

I am sure many would dispute that last point, BTW. Nobody likes a drama queen.

In the real world my friends, co-eds and colleagues appreciate my "no BS, cut the whining" attitude. There will be no apologizing for hurting your feelings on a matter where you have done nothing but incite anxiety. In case that is what you were looking for.

Did it turn out that you were actually part of the recall?

For some people pulling the spark plugs is engine disassembly.

All they have to do in that two hours (at a leisurely pace when parts are available) is:

Pop the Valvecover
Unbolt the Rocker Bridge
Check the stamp on the Head
Check the stamp on the spring

Then they know whether they button it back up and send you on your way, or drop in new springs, reset the valve lash and then get you on the road.

This is something you could probably do. That is not snark or sarcasm. I genuinely believe that if I gave you some hand tools and a service manual you could do it. This is not huge or major, so cut that fearmongering out.

It's like listening to US media blather about the Power plants in Japan and comparing it to the Chernobyl plant. Which not only had graphite rods, was also a positive void co-efficient reactor.

Details make the difference.

Don't hype the situation you don't understand. It is irresponsible and inappropriate, and as someone (like many here) with a technical comprehension of what the recall entails, it is f*cking annoying.

You are just creating angst for yourself and others.

What do you contribute to this already overswollen thread besides diatribes that convey panic and a lack of confidence and a touch of conspiracy? (originally)

Just chill the F out. Take the advice of your friends and family whom you admitted had said you were over reacting to at least one other assumed issue.

Automotive hypochondriac, you are one.

I would hate to work at your dealership, poor bastards.

 

Geez DSM, if it was that easy, why the hell does my dealership need "special tools" to fix the LMS??? WTF are they pulling on me? Maybe I should show them this thread, or atleast that last post of yours...this is terrible. I might as well try this myself when I get the time...

 

clink clink...the sound of 2 beer mugs coming together, unable to rep you, but know I tried DSM.

 

Believe it or not DSM, I respect your knowledge of engines. I've read your posts. You are a mechanic, you know more about engines than I do.

I'm relatively sure the reason we haven't had a lot of engine failures from this problem is that Honda is wisely being pro-active..not reactive...they are replacing the springs before they start to fail in mass. This avoids a LOT of potential lawsuits and a LOT of negative publicity. It's the right thing to do. I'm speculating that Honda has done testing of the original springs and has a pretty good idea of the amount of future failures that would manifest if they did NOT replace the springs. It's my further speculation that the number of failures they project must be significant or we wouldn't be involved in this recall at all. This IS my own personal speculation. Discount it totally if you wish.

If anyone is "under-researched" perhaps you should look at yourself? Because I get that figure from American Honda Motor Co. Inc. own Press Release. As follows:-

Statement by American Honda Motor Co., Inc., Regarding Lost Motion Spring Recall: 2009-2010 Fit



TORRANCE, Calif. February 16, 2011



Honda will recall 97,201 model years 2009 and 2010 Fit vehicles in the U.S. to replace the lost motion springs, components within the engine valvetrain.:-end quote

Notice the part about Ninety Seven Thousand Two Hundred and One Fit vehicles being recalled? Gee that's what we call "reality". PS. Also that's a pretty big number.

I won't mention that it is a significantly larger number if you include worldwide numbers.

I would respectfully add, you continue to apply or attempt to apply what you "think" about me? My politics, my psyche, my attitude...on and on..

You don't know me. You don't know my politics, you don't know my psyche, or even my attitude.

In short...I think defining this recall as a Huge Issue, in regards to Fit Ownership for a LOT of people is perfectly reasonable. The fact that YOU could fix this yourself and think others could too...doesn't diminish that for a lot of the 90,000+ people that own Honda Fits...this means at least a trip to the dealership, and some extended faith that the process will be handled correctly.

Bottom Line? No, nothing that happens to an automobile is / or should be "life defining"...

People post in here with Fits that get totalled, broken into, stolen..etc, etc...

But within the confines of a Forum dedicated to all things Honda Fit...I would call this recall huge....

That was the context of my original post calling this recall huge.

 

They are probably referring to the spacers and rocker arm holder kits for all four arms and springs. They just want to replace the whole affected assembly while they are in there.

The part number and tool numbers are in this 4 page .pdf:
Honda Fit Lost Motion Spring Recall

Or your dealer just doesnt have the parts in yet. There could be a few things going on. Tough to say, sorry.

Though we dont even chat all that much, just hearing from ya in spite of the epic mess you and your incredibly resilient and composed countrymen are sorting out is good enough for me!

Cheers!

 

I am not a mechanic. lol

I am not disputing the number recalled. I am disputing your understanding and attitude regarding the recall.

Just stop. You are silly.

Read this link, memorize it, embrace it:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/49830452/H...-Spring-Recall

Now STFU so this doesnt get buried like every other useful bit of info thanks to your nonsense and speculation.

 

any update on this? iam kinda scared about this recall now.... we had to replace a bumper one time on our accord at the dealership and it was all loose and never fit the same again! we took it back to have them fix it, and they did sorta.. but it was kinda misshaped.. atleast it was flapping around anymore....

perhaps you could take it back and say it was damaged during the recall.

 

seriously, anyone who looks at the service bulletin can see it's pretty much a straightforward fix. it's not complicated. it's not open to interpretation. it's pure disassemble, then reassemble. there should be no expectation of trouble as long as the person doing the work is paying attention.

 

DSM I believe is correct about the holders. Often times Special tools are developed during recalls to make the process of fixing the part in need of replacement easier/quicker. This can help speed up more experienced techs or increase the reliability of quality work for less experienced techs. (If I only changed out a wheel when I got a Flat, I'd just use the Scissor Jack included with the car. As I swap out my wheels twice/year, I got a special tool to make things go faster, a hydraulic floor jack.) The minute the Fits come off the line, Honda has the ability to fix/replace any part on the car, it just might take longer without special tools.

It's about time & Money. The tool probably costs less to produce than 5 minutes worth of labor and it probably saves more than that on each vehicle.

Fitchet, I (as I'm sure you can guess) agree with DSM. You have announced to us and everyone else that you have a tendency to live your life in a paranoid state and that is blatanly obvious when it comes to your fit. Those with more mechanical experience than you (the techs) are the ones to make that call and those I have talked to (honda techs that did the recall) said this is NOT a major recall. DSM hit it on the head with the fear mongering. Please stop spreading the fear.

This is NOT a big deal, let alone huge. and 97,201 may look like a "large" number, but it is actually very small.

~SB

 

This thread has helped me to understand why there are so few boosted fits.

On a side note, I changed brakes and rotors for a friend of mine once. He was not mechanically inclined. I let him watch me, big mistake. He starts freaking out when I start banging his 7yr rusted on rotor with a sludge hammer. I learned to hate dealing with people like that. I will never touch someones car again who does not understand what needs to be done.

 

just got my recall letter and called dealer this morning. The service advisor didn't know anything about this recall. I did ask him to check if they had the parts, and they do. I'm going in Friday. Any suggestions on what I should bring? Is it worth printing out the entire service bulletin? I'm struck by the number of people who had to readjust their wipers afterwards.

 

had it done at the dealership last week

1/2 a day and its all done - very quick and easy

no notable changes

09 fit lx 5speed

 

got my letter a few days ago and made and appointment with my dealer for later in the week. Has anyone had any problems getting this warranty work done becuase of air intake modifications? I have a DIY SRI and don't have the parts on hand to revert to factory OEM. Should I expect problems?

 

rule of thumb with bmw is to always return to stock prior to letting them get their hands on it, if you are still under warranty. without the parts...might be worth calling the SA and discussing it, whether you are under warranty or not.

 

Having one of the front clip arm on the cowl broken my dealership is taking care of me and replacing the piece. Too bad for them one can't just buy the small part of the cowl so they had to get everything up there.

 

ok, so my recall took 2 hours, on the receipt it says "Recall Completed" but iam not sure if they replaced anything or not.

As for the damage that was done, iam prety sure it was only 1 ziplock ripped off and 2 clips from the cowl was ripped off, and none of them were replaced, so i just have empty holes there..... i guess it will just be easyer for the next person take off everything or open up the engine whenever the time comes, hopefully none of those things are vital to anything.

 

I would head back in and ask what they did then show them what you see they did wrong. No reason there should be anything missing.

 

its too late.. i already drove back to school... but anyways, all in all iam satisfied with it, they completely took off my cold air intake, i can tell by the way dust was rubbed off of it, and also by the couplers and mounting locations being slightly off... the screws are on pretty good, so i won't mess with it.

also a bit of oil is on the engine from where they opened it up, as long as everything works and is running iam fine with it.

i wish there was a way to know if they really did change out the springs in it.. or left it alone.. for 2 hours of my time.. it wasn't too bad.

 

Good to hear they dealt with the CAI. Fixed is fixed I guess.

 

Aside from that seeming kinda parinoid, the best way to know is eventual spring/engine failure. Outside of that, if nothing happens for the life of the car, they did the work...or you've been a lucky SOB.

Dan