What do you get in your direct injection, CVT Fit? Your car also has what, 10k miles on it and is less than a year old? Report back in 5-8 years please.

I'm upset that people talk on the phone & eat bags of chips while driving..regardless of what their driving. You're controlling a weapon (well, to some extent in a CVT), focus on the task at hand.

I made up a number for calories burnt, I'm sorry my random number upsets you.

And you only shift up five times in a six speed manual

 

Damn, this was actually a good one. I think I'll let you off the hook for now.

 

Manual transmissions will soon go away for emissions reasons--to prevent people from being in the wrong gear and lugging the engine, etc. Just like cars now use fly-by-wire throttles that can ignore inputs that would create more emissions, and brakes that can ignore your input (or lack thereof).

Manual transmissions are a throwback to crank start, manual spark advance, and manual choke knobs.

 

Yet you average 30.5 MPG with a CVT and I average 38 MPG with a 5MT

 

Yeah, but your mileage is just all talk with nothing to back it up. I'll bet you're paying a LOT more per mile than I am.

 

I had a 36 mpg tank once. Sometimes I still get nightmares about it.

 

Aw well... I can afford to drive all-city with Eco Mode off and my foot in it all the time, as well as to keep the missus happy with warm-ups in the driveway. Gotta love them Fuel Points and $1.00/gallon discount. Last tank was 87.9¢ /gallon.

 

seriously

 

Driving involves controlling the motion of a car, not serving as a crude controller for the transmission.

As you work your hard, firm knob back and forth there are many other vehicle functions being controlled automatically, yet you don't seem to think that ignoring those makes you any less of a driver. I suppose they just don't excite you in the same way.

 

George hits another one outta the park! Dang, I wish that post had a "Like" button.

 

Would you prefer the link to my fuelly account which has the information for my 2 5MT Fits, my 5MT Fiesta and Ms. 410b's 5AT GD? All of which get better fuel economy than your CVT GK?

And lol @ thinking you're superior because you pay less. I wish I was such a selfish being that I enjoyed wasting more natural resources than others

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BTW, city/highway percentages are off on all cars, I've never given them much thought.

 

Jeebus, I guess basic reading comprehension and critical thinking are another thing you're not very good at. Or maybe the road system where you live is just extremely poor and because of that you have a different definition of what a highway is than I do.

No highway, to me meaning interstate, has stop lights that are part of the actual highway. So if I'm at a stop light, I'm not on a highway.

Now if I'm on an on ramp then that is part of the highway and it's very rare for me to not already be at highway speed (50+ mph) and in 6th gear at the start of the ramp. You might like being that pokey person who slowly creeps along the ramp in fear, hoping somebody LETS you in. I prefer to be at speed so I can get into to any available spot.

Now since you may be comprehension impaired and I'm kinda bored with this whole thread, I'll say that there are definitely exceptions where my preference may not be possible. For example, ramps with a significant incline or ramps where a left turn at a light are required. In those instances then multiple gear changes would be required to get up to highway speed. But so freaking what. I enjoy operating my vehicle. I enjoy being in total control of what it is doing. If that's not something you like to do when you drive then whatever. Who gives a shit?

 

hey i had a 36 mpg tank last fillup. i was happy.

 

I see, when your writing isn't clear you attack those who question it.

I'm glad that you live in a land of half-mile-long on-ramps which apparently have no corners. Perhaps you somehow drive on the freeway continuously without using on- and off-ramps. It's certainly a charmed life.

I don't have that luxury. I live in Southern California, the place that invented freeways. Some of the first on-ramp designs, from the 1940s, were a bit lacking, forcing drivers to accelerate very rapidly from a stop. Here's one:




Yes, that is a stop sign on the ramp.

Even up-to-date freeways have metering signals on the on-ramps:



Better, but one still has to get down to business right away so no silliness like skipping gears or shifting into 6th at 30MPH as has been suggested. You're going to use 1-4 to get on the freeway and then 5 and 6 to settle into cruise.

 

Its all fun and games 'till you get a p0847

 

Or a worn out clutch. In my older cars replacing a clutch was a pain but doable, in a modern car it costs the better part of a stack.

 

Replacing a clutch is much cheaper than replacing an automatic transmission, though.

This whole thread is like arguing Crunchberries or Peanut Butter Crunch. You likes what you likes (though the obvious answers are Crunchberries and a manny, of course).

 

LOL I know that onramp on the 110.

There's a bunch of them like that on the 10 too, those are even worse because there's an exit lane that goes through your entrance lane.

Shift to 1st, rev to 3-4k, drop the clutch and floor it through the 1-2. By the time you get to the top of second you're going about 60. For onramps like that I'd rather be able to launch it than mash the gas and hope for the best. For the short rolling ramps you can just stay in 2nd, like I said, up to about 60, if you really need to get on it. Once you're on the freeway you can take 3rd to about 80 if you really need to move, but after that, short shift 4th and 5th and you're cruising. It's really not all that dramatic or anything I don't do every day.

If one can't operate the steering wheel in one hand and the shifter at the same time, I don't know what to say, I guess automatic is where it's at for those people, and that's where they belong, and that's okay.

 

Which is where the "clutches are cheaper to replace" argument goes away. Abuse the clutch this way and you'll be replacing it several times in the life of the vehicle. At $600-800 per replacement (mostly labor, that thing is buried in there!) you'll be up to an auto trans rebuild cost pretty quickly.

 

Meh, if I replace my clutch once in 250k miles i'm ok with that. So far I'm on track for that.

You don't have to rev to 5.5k and side step the clutch. That's abuse. You don't have to chirp the 1-2, just be fast with it. It's not like you're flat-shifting.

This is not ultra dramatic driving practices here, this is every day stuff.