I don't know if the base kit would be "Fast and the Furious" fast... Take a look at the 2006 Honda Civic EX (w/CAI). It has decent power, but when I raced my Fit (I/H/Axle Back) at the local drag strip, we were pretty much neck and neck.. both manual trans. I won 3 out of 4 races. I shouldn't have won any of them if he knew how to drive to be honest. But I gave myself a chance by gutting my interior.. (no spare, rear seats, door panels etc.)

I think the 2006 R18 powered Civic is rated at 140hp and 128 ft lbs. +250lbs. These power numbers are very close to the KWSC base kit w/no mods.. so what I am saying is that, it's not gonna be a blow out from Fit vs Fit.. perhaps a car length or 2 at most.

I would say that the KWSC kit with Hondata and Highboost kit will be a much different story tho.

 

Alright just got back from racing my brother in his complete stock M/T Fit Sport.

I have a M/T Fit Base with the base KWSC and a skunk2 catback.

We raced three times and it was pretty much neck and neck all three races...

We both drove my Fit to test out the 0-60 times and we both did about 4 starts and we averaged about 9.5-9.7secs 0-60 which sounds really slow to me, dunno what the normal 0-60 is for the m/t fit. Didnt try timing my brothers to see...

Something must be wrong or something, dunno...

my boost gauge peaks out at about 4.5-4.75psi WOT right before redline. It looks like the boost starts coming on gradually at about 3700-4000rpms or so. But doesnt see much boost until getting high on the revs. Also I have the boost gauge hooked into the grey hose coming off the PCV valve, same one that connects to the supercard.

Ive double checked that everything is hooked up and connected right; dunno what else to check for?

 

Did you drive each other's cars too as a cross-ref?

 

I didnt drive his, but he drove mine.

 

Something is definately not right. Neck and Neck shouldnt even have been in that race summary. How was the traction on your tires? You should have whored him. I dont know what to tell you dude. I will def have vids ready, but that will be in about 3 weeks to a month. I will have a Full exhaust vid of my speedometer and one of the KWSC w/ Hondata and Upgraded injector w/ full exhaust. Then I will place them next to eachother on a video and show you guys a side by side comparison of both. THe only info I can give now is my WHP that my car is producing now with header, downpipe, midpipe and axle-back. Its 103whp.
On July 12 (Saturday) there is a dyno day. I hope for the car to be ready by then. So give me some time guys and I will assure you vids and numbers.

I would say talk to Oscar Jr and Sr and they can def help you do a run through over the phone just to make sure everything is the way it should be and all the parts are working fine.

 

this has got to be the most depressing thing i've ever read. Seriously, something has gotta be wrong here, my a/t fit is almost as fast as that, and the reviews for the fit put it that fast STOCK! your brother has a sport and you have a base? you weigh a bit less too! and not even that was enough to turn the tide? something is wrong here man.

 

i don't expect it to ff fast. thats not why i'm interested in the kit.

Civics and fits (at least the a/t version i've owned which was an 06 ex sedan) post similar 0-60 times, the civic a tiny bit faster.

However car and driver got an lx manual sedan to go from 0-60 in 7.6 seconds, probably with a hard launch. even the heaviest fit (a sport a/t) weighs in at 2551 a full on 134lbs lighter than a manual civic lx. the manual versions do even better and better still when compared to an ex model.


i dunno. i don't think anything should have been neck and neck. the civic is rated at 140 and armed with that kind of hp and tq, a fit running against another with stock hp shouldn't have a chance!



SICKFIT: looking forward to your videos and dynos man! set the record straight!

 

Man I am so confused. I think I will just lay low from here on out and wait to hear from Oscar and get the air cleared and the full report and know 100% what is the best option for my specific set up. I have a pre-order AT kit and will only keep it if there's a way to achieve at least 130hp. Anything less than than that and it won't be worth it anymore to me. I have accepted this car as more of a "handling-oriented" design and less of a power-oriented one. I love the way my car handles with rear sway and Skunk2 coilovers (and Mugen front strut bar if you count that). I'll take more power, but I want to be pretty well blown away after dropping over $3000.00, not just feeling a little quicker though AT Hondata would certainly solve that!).
That article in Siphon magazine last year had me convinced this kit was going to blow doors (which is does/can apparently)-- but that was an MT and a specific set-up. It appears now that some set-ups rock with the kit and others, well, not so much maybe (?).

I wanna rock.

 

I think many of us(me included) may have some unrealistic expectations...slap in the KWSC kit and lets go take on EVO's and WRX's!

The only Fit that I have been in that was without a doubt waaaaay faster than stock was "gettinafit's" K20 swapped vehicle. If the KWSC kit performs even half as good as that I'll be more than happy!

I already know my Fit handles pretty awesome and I'm sure the KWSC kit will address some of the shortcomings of the stock L15 engine:

- lack of power going uphill
- lack of power merging onto highways
- lack of passing power

Individual driving ability also helps but a Porsche 911 the Fit isn't!

 

ok I timed my 0-60... Now mind you it was off a normal second tick watch not a stop watch...

I DIDNOT LAUNCH... it was a gradual start (dont wanna wear down the new tires lol) 0-60 was about 5.5 to 6 sec.

JSENSK- i dont think your goal of 130whp is out of reach.

 

Based on the C15-60 m/t numbers, my personal estimates for the a/t were possibly 107whp with just the kit and 125whp with header, 50mm cat-back, and 195cc injectors. Unless the C15-16 pulls a rabbit out of the hat, I think 130whp is up there on this 5# kit for the a/t. Dynos that show otherwise are welcome... Again, that's my pure WAG speculation.

I'm also wondering how much an upgraded exhaust drops the intake compression PSI under 5# (since the kit is designed for stock exhaust flow).

 

RAD.

 

now THAT is quick. thats as fast if not faster than a stock mazdaspeed 3, a bit faster than a gti, and quite a bit faster than a si be it sedan or otherwise.



i would assume the best a/t setup would do about 7.7 seconds, after upgraded injectors and exhaust mods.

 

i personally have never had expectations that are TOO high, at least not wanting to take on evos or 911's!

The thing is, 0-60 in 7-7.5 seconds isnt evo or sti territory either, and that was what i was hoping for. and cars like the regular mazda 3 (to name one) encroach on that territory as well, while offering things not offered on the fit...some may reason that this may be a better path, even if it means financing a car again, as oppossed to dropping 4k on a kit that wont bring it up to that performance standard.

 

He's on 8 psi + hondata. A/T + supercard is only 5 psi...

 

So...
-running base kit on stock motor okay
-running base kit with catbck okay
-running base kit with header not okay
-running upgraded injectors with catback not okay
-running upgraded injectors with header + 60 mm catback okay
-running upgraded injectors with hondata + header + 60 mm catback VERY OKAY

is this correct?

 

yeah i know. I was just stating what i think (hope?) a full on 5psi w/injectors/e would result in acceleration wise.

 

sounds about right. but not sure about the third one down. everything else sounds gravy.

 

Yah I hope KWSC clarifies what it takes to use 195cc or 205cc injectors for squeezing as much as possible out of the 5# a/t kit + supercard!

 

you're right... dynamicfit is running a mugen header with the base kit.
basically, if i am following this thread correctly, you just shouldn't run the upgraded injectors without opening up the exhaust with a header and 50-60mm catback exhaust.

So... (edited)
-running base kit on stock motor okay
-running base kit with catbck okay
-running base kit with header seemingly okay
-running upgraded injectors with catback not okay
-running upgraded injectors with header + 60 mm catback okay
-running upgraded injectors with hondata + header + 60 mm catback VERY OKAY