Hey Tom, how the clearance between the Mugen Header and the Intake Pipe of the KWSC? I'm debating between either Mugen or T1R.

 

Well I did have the weapon-R race headers (no cat) installed before putting on the S/C so wasnt going from completely stock.

 

As with most things in the install all the pieces can be moved around a bit. The clearance with my setup is about a good 1 to 1.5 inches. If you guys are really looking to lower intake temps, I would recommend wrapping the suction pipe rather than doing the header, seems better than just doing the 1 primary off the header. If you intended on wrapping your header anyways just do that, but I personally wouldn't want to hide all that "Mugen goodness".

 

maybe someone can MacGuyver some sort of metal heat shield between the header and intake tube?

 

Thanks dude - that's what I want to hear. No one has really come out with hard numbers on acceleration times for some reason...

 

Your kit must not be installed correctly? If you cannot feel the difference then something is wrong. My car was WAY faster than it was stock with the base kit... and even with the OLD kit, and I had the same mods.

 

I can feel a difference but its not much. My brother has a bone stock M/T fit and he drove mine w/the Base S/C kit installed and he couldnt tell that much difference either. We even raced, and mine was just a little quicker.

I dont see what could be installed wrong, I just put a boost gauge on and im showing just a tad under 5psi at WOT near redline, so seems like its getting the full ammount of boost.

 

that seems to be the stock answer and while i recall one confirmed install problem reported here the rest of the people i have spoken to seem to have stuff installed correclty. I even compared my install with that of a fellow fitfreak who has the kit on his m/t and all the connections looked the same. my performance shop also confirmed that things were connected correclty when i installed it.

I am now running rc 195cc injectors successfully. no CEL and i have gained back that lost oomph. the injectors combined with stronger clamps did the trick. now my a/f at WOT is from 10.7 to 11.5 from 3500 to redline. before it was 11.8 to 13.6 and it seems to me that there was alot of air and not enough fuel at the higher rpm range which was resulting in me not going anywhere (compared to without s/c) when i stomped on it.

This may/may not apply to others who have encountered this problem when running rich from the 205's becuase my setup may be slightly different. but for those not wanting to spend the money for the hondata this MIGHT be another option if you are running headers that have slightly larger primaries or a 50mm exhaust.

Just food for thought.

 

Many thanks for posting that info!

I wonder if the clamps were at fault previously and not the 205cc injectors? Anyways, the 195cc are in range, sounds good enough to me. That gives me renewed hope!

 

hmmm, i'm gonna have to agree with jdmchris on this one, even having a 'race' header and cat delete shouldn't yield SOOO much power, its already been discussed that a cat delete does add a few horsies, but not a gargantuan amount, and certainly not enough to make the supercharger install feel like only a slight bump in hp.

 

Well anyone thats east of the Dallas,TX area that wants to come ride/drive the car and see how it feels for themselves is welcome... Wish someone around here had the base kit as well so could take a ride in there car to see if it felt the same...

 

it is possible but i don't think likely. my a/f ratio with the 205's even when the stock clamps were just put on was 10.0 or possibly below. It seems that the stock ecu does not like a/f somewhere below 10.6.

 

(edited, heh!) Plain base m/t kit is +28whp (93->121). That's why everyone also wanted the injectors / header / exhaust for the +23whp after that (121->144).

I'm hoping the a/t kit makes it to 125whp with 195cc injectors / t1r / 50mm exhaust.

 

base kit is +28whp, (93-121)

 

oh crap i fail it! oh man that's embarrassing... and i got quoted too!

 

Interesting. Being that you have the kit and I dont I cant say I dont agree with you but I have a slight idea that Chris may be right about something. With the s/c kit base vs. a stock car, you should be whoring it. I have a Fit with Full header and exhaust and I raped Fits with CAI and Axle-backs by about 2-3 cars and thats only with full exhaust against another Fit that has some bolt-ons.

Very interesting.

 

hmmm I will see if I can race my brother again tonight in his stock fit... first time was right after I got the S/C installed.

Anyone with just the base kit on a m/t could you try and time your 0-60? I will try to time mine tonight too, maybe can compare that...

 

yes please do!

 

yeah, but even that much to the wheels should represent a BIG difference, at least in one's butt dyno! considering out powetrain losses, +28whp would mean we were rocking at LEAST a 130-140 hp fit, which should be significantly faster than cars who make that kind of hp to the crank and weigh more.

and i agree, i'd love the base a/t to make it to 125, at least 115 to the wheels.

 

My plan is to vid the speedo 0-80 mph. Then I can take the delta between the frame numbers for 5/10 mph to 60 mph and 80 mph with 33ms (0.033s) resolution. I have no bright ideas for timing from 0mph with "some" reproducibility on a budget. I just want ballpark hard numbers for each of my attempted mods, pulley, wheels, kit.