Yeah the Si held his speed and just shot video of me passing. I'm only running WeaponR street header and muffler delete. No injectors (not running lean, according to the ECM. In fact, with injectors, I was running rich). He can get me in the straights, still, but not by much.

 

perfect. thats what i wanted to hear!

 

Eldaino, I'll try to get my girl to shoot the vid and the Si and I will do a couple pulls, if possible, today. It's nice and sunny, so I'll try to get 20, 30, and 40 mph vids for you. GF should be in a better mood, so she might tolerate standing on the roadside and getting some driveby's today

 

So do you guys think the injectors are causing some "issues" with AF, CEL, etc.?

And with the injectors, are you not CARB legal? And pardon my ignorance, but does that mean you won't pass inspection? And if that's the case, how do you get an inspection sticker each year? Is the CARB situation just a California deal?

 

Did anyone that pre-ordered the AT kit happen to get the full price of the kit already charged to their card?

I was very unpleasantly surprised to find that the $500.00 deposit as well as the FULL price of the kit have already been billed to my card-- which is actually not a credit card (I do not use them) but my bank account/debit card which puts my balance (duh) kind of low all the sudden. It was my understanding that the balance was not billed until the kit shipped , which the site states is not until July. This is obviously not cool and I am wondering if anyone else has had this or just me, by some mistake perhaps.

You could really screw someone's world up running that kind of charge "by mistake". Of course today is a holiday so I have to sit around and stress out about this until tomorrow, which sucks.

 

i havent checked my records yet but ill check today i also preordered mine..ill check in a lil while jsensk

 

Thanks. Maybe it's just a mistake, and I don't mean to dog KW out publicly, but that's a mighty big mistake if so. Luckily I have sufficient funds + cushion in my account, but it still freaks you out big time and for some it could be a HUGE problem (bills due, rent, car payment-- whatever). I run a second business that's 100% percent online, so let me tell you- charging people's cards before an item is shipping is a huge deal and a major no-no.

 

I am taking my car to my local performance shop hopefully tomorrow or the next day. I have been monitoring my A/F real time very closely since the kit is installed. I am geting a recurring code P0172 which to my knowledge a few others here have gotten who are running the injector upgrade. kmdebit (correct me if i am wrong) took out his and put the stock ones back in and no CEL.

This specific code means that in closed loop the car is running too rich. the O2 sensor before the cat is detecting a rich condition. My A/F in closed loop at idle was 14.7 or so N/A and now is 13.5 with boost. This is no good. closed loop it should be relatively the same. open loop is when it should add the extra fuel. It is possible that when i installed the fuel injectors i messed something up but at least 2 others are having the same issue. and i know one of them had his install done by a mechanic who does thee kind of things regularly. I have done alot of research on this specific code and it seems 1 of the causes might be a bad or leaking fuel injector. meaning that instead of spraying a fine mist it is shooting out fuel. It might also be a bad connection with the fuel injector conversion clips but i am sure i plugged them in correctly and tight.

However, putting the stock injectors back on while might cause the car to run correct in closed loop might run too lean in open loop. here lies the rub.

I'll hopefully know more soon and i will put up the results of my mechanics findings.

as far as i know the CARB thing is cali only so as long as your car is not throwing a CEL you should pass.

 

Thanks for sorting that out Leonine. I think my CEL has the same problem. It's a real tight fit in there with those new injectors thats for sure.

My biggest concern right now is with the charges. I went through a whole thing with my CC and KW about charging my CC so I could get it on time, and basically what's happened is that I've been double charged for the SC. Need to resolve this ASAP otherwise my US CC is useless when I go to Vegas in 2.5 weeks. I don't think the Fit SC costs more than $6000

 

Call Oscar Tomorrow!

As far as the CEL, ive only ever thrown it because of my testpipe.

 

Yeah I sent him a long email and a phone message. I seriously hate this bank I'm dealing with...stupid cheaper fee...causing me more pain, agony, and time than if I just spent $10 more!!!

Oh BTW, everyone with injector upgrade, with the new studs on, how many threads could you turn with those nuts that secure the rail to those studs? With the spacer and new fuel rail, I could maybe get one thread on!!

 

but what was the code??? if it was anything other than the P0420 which is cat related then you are having the same problem. It would have been nice to know that before hand.

 

Dammit that's right, it's a holiday south of the border!!!

 

I dont know which code it was, But when stock cat is on my car i dont throw a code. When the test pipe is on it comes on. So it really cant be anything else besides the test pipe.

 

Illusive-- YIKES!! Damn man that is NOT COOL! I know it can get confusing but it's sort of a "measure twice, cut once" approach that prevents these things from happening. As the admin on my online shop, I am SUPER sure before I hit that "Capture" button and charge someone's card. I go through each transaction manually to make sure everything is straight. Maybe this was some sort of automated capture on the KW side-- I don't know but it is not working.

OJR-- you are our hero, man, but you all got to straighten this charging stuff out! I would be completely torched on the forums (for my industry) if I did that. Accidents happen-- but this is people's money.

I am still excited to my s/c though! But hopefully the injector issue is resolved by July because I have a T1R header and don't want to put the stock clunker back on after already dropping $400+ on a sweet-a** T1R!

And of course if the kit is shipping early and that's why my card was run-- then fine, but the balance charged was still wayyy off.

Illusive-- only one thread?? That doesn't seem right. Are you all sure the injector upgrade is as tested and "buttoned-up" as it should be/needs to be? Sounds like too many CELs to me, but I am basically an idiot who merely understands concepts.

 

It doesn't help I'm in Canada haha. Stupid crap, its partly my CC company's fault. TBH, Oscar and KW as well as myself and my mom (banker ) went through a lot on that Thursday after they were released, and thought everything was resolved, but I called in to check today and BAM! Double charged. I seriously hate this bank, now I remember why I closed my account with them and moved to another bank!!!

BTW, I'm just super stressed over the trip to Vegas with the g/f. It's her first trip out of Canada, so I want everything to go smoothly!!! Got this stupid CC so I didn't have to carry that much cash on me, but right now it's not looking good Doesn't help that I ALMOST didn't get my renewed passport thanks to the stupid government getting my ADDRESS THAT I TYPED CORRECTLY FOR THEM WRONG!!! They sent it to another address (one digit was wrong on the house number), and yeah, I got a final notice card over the weekend saying it would be sent back LAST WEDS!!! I crapped my pants a little when they said that I would have to wait minimum 3 weeks to get it back if they did ship it back (2.5 weeks before Vegas), but luckily it's still at the post office...

I have to say though, you guys waiting for your kits will not be disappointed once it is installed. It is super fun and much quicker with the SC!!!

 

JDMChris-- what's your thoughts on the larger injectors being such a tight fit/only one thread grab, etc.? Seems a ripe candidate for these ticky-tack problems currently being reported. I know everything has been perfect on your car, but you have more insight than the average guy here.

 

I only see $500 of KWSC on my CC right now, but my credit limit is way down, which means they checked that the card could cover the whole amount (which is fine).

 

possibly but without knowing the code it is not for certain. i'm just trying to figure out if the test pipe is causing the rich condition. but then again other have gotten it with the cat on.

 

I have T1R headers and stock cat with a Catback exhaust...