Jackson Racing please....
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One thing you all should note regarding gains on the dyno plot... they are quoting WHP gains, not stock engine rating vs whp. In other words, the 135 horsepower of the 5 lb kit is not just a meager 26 hp gain. It is a 40 whp gain, and a 42% increase in power.
I'll take that any day, thanks much!
For those still confused: Look at the baseline dyno numbers for the 10 lb kit....my eyes read 95 hp stock, and 158 hp s/c. Assuming the baseline applies to all Fits, and the 5 lb kit gets 135 whp, you get a 40 hp gain, AT THE WHEELS. Knowing that the Fit's engine is rated at 109, and it is dynoing 95, tells me that 1) we are dealing with a manual trans, and 2) the driveline loss is ~13%.
SO, the engine itself is likely making close to 180 hp with the 10 lb kit (edit: and is making 152 hp with the 5 lb kit).
I'll take that any day, thanks much!
For those still confused: Look at the baseline dyno numbers for the 10 lb kit....my eyes read 95 hp stock, and 158 hp s/c. Assuming the baseline applies to all Fits, and the 5 lb kit gets 135 whp, you get a 40 hp gain, AT THE WHEELS. Knowing that the Fit's engine is rated at 109, and it is dynoing 95, tells me that 1) we are dealing with a manual trans, and 2) the driveline loss is ~13%.
SO, the engine itself is likely making close to 180 hp with the 10 lb kit (edit: and is making 152 hp with the 5 lb kit).
Last edited by sonorliteman; Nov 2, 2006 at 03:47 PM.
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And I'll go out on a limb here:
Since the AT dynos I've seen are usually at about 80 whp stock, I'll bet we'll see 120 hp or so from the 5 lb kit, and 140 or so from the 10 lb kit.
It appears driveline loss is about 25% with the auto...so you manual trans owners have a great deal with 12% more power than us slushboxes!
Since the AT dynos I've seen are usually at about 80 whp stock, I'll bet we'll see 120 hp or so from the 5 lb kit, and 140 or so from the 10 lb kit.
It appears driveline loss is about 25% with the auto...so you manual trans owners have a great deal with 12% more power than us slushboxes!
ohh man 
... I can't wait for them to release this... was gonna go with a k20A2 head with a k24 block, but this is actully looks like good enough for me. 
... I can't wait for them to release this... was gonna go with a k20A2 head with a k24 block, but this is actully looks like good enough for me.
Last edited by JamesBizzle; Nov 2, 2006 at 02:46 PM.
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yeah, after seeing how crazy tight the k20 is in the fit, I am serriously considering the jackson blower. If my car ever gets here.
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the intake and exhaust together made about 10hp at the wheels, which isnt bad. the headers are really well made, probably not as light as teh mugen but ceramic is deffinantly the way to go, hot gasses flow better. thorley is very well known in other markets, he makes wonderfull jeep systems. I might consider that racing header but its $1200 or so! I dont remember what the price is on the shorty but it was cheaper then the mugen and more then the cheapos, right in the middle if I recal right so maybe $550 or so.
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the intake and exhaust together made about 10hp at the wheels, which isnt bad. the headers are really well made, probably not as light as teh mugen but ceramic is deffinantly the way to go, hot gasses flow better. thorley is very well known in other markets, he makes wonderfull jeep systems. I might consider that racing header but its $1200 or so! I dont remember what the price is on the shorty but it was cheaper then the mugen and more then the cheapos, right in the middle if I recal right so maybe $550 or so.
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Originally Posted by JamesBizzle
ohh man ... I can't wait for them to release this... was gonna go with a k20A2 head with a k24 block, but this is actully looks like good enough for me.
... I can't wait for them to release this... was gonna go with a k20A2 head with a k24 block, but this is actully looks like good enough for me. it will be available soon, like very soon.
It was so cool man, the L15 was right at the corner of the booth, it was a premier item
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great to finally read all this...the HP gains are good for both the 5lb kit and 10lb kit...really would like to know the difference in price for the 10lb kit...if anything just go with the 5lb kit. Good info all around and waiting to see who gets it 1st
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Do you know if thats a K20a2 or a K20Z3 they swapped in?
here is the hasport fit with the k20 mounted, notice the front crossmember cut out for the manifold. the car isnt running yet but it will be as soon as the wiring is finished.
Originally Posted by thecheat
here is the hasport fit with the k20 mounted, notice the front crossmember cut out for the manifold. the car isnt running yet but it will be as soon as the wiring is finished.
Originally Posted by thecheat
I talked to Oscar Sr. about auto trans and he confirmed that they will be building a kit they just need a car to mock it up on, but there is plenty of space for the pipe to fit
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True that Wave, the Fit in the US is majority speaking A/T they should come up with an RSX base A/T swap for the Fit's and most people's daily driving habits! But they've never done that, usually they make an A/T to M/T conversion mount! hehehe
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Everyone, thanks for being patient...
SEMA was absolutely crazy! Easily one of the best shows we have ever had. I talked to Joe (thecheat) a couple of times, and really enjoyed seeing the enthusiasm from everyone.
Now let me clear things up.
The CARB-Legal header was mis-tagged and will be sold as a Jackson Racing header. All Jackson Racing headers are built in the same facility as Jardine/Doug Thorley, with the JR headers having the added benefit of Oscar Jackson's engineering prowess. This CARB legal header made 10 HP with our Cold Air Intake system. The CARB header price will be around $365.
The planned release of both Supercharger kits is November/December, no later. I will be sure to post to FitFreaks about when we begin taking orders on our first run of Fit kits. This will allow you FitFreakers "first-dibs" on the new kit. The 5lb kit will be $3495, with the 10lb kit looking to be between $4500-$4995. There will be an upgrade from 5 to 10lbs, for you future boost junkies...
The header pic on the site is our Titanium Fit header. We will be offering this "Race-Only" header for $1195. We will also offer a Stainless "Race-Only" Header, for around $500.
Thanks again,
-Oscar Jackson Jr.
SEMA was absolutely crazy! Easily one of the best shows we have ever had. I talked to Joe (thecheat) a couple of times, and really enjoyed seeing the enthusiasm from everyone.
Now let me clear things up.
The CARB-Legal header was mis-tagged and will be sold as a Jackson Racing header. All Jackson Racing headers are built in the same facility as Jardine/Doug Thorley, with the JR headers having the added benefit of Oscar Jackson's engineering prowess. This CARB legal header made 10 HP with our Cold Air Intake system. The CARB header price will be around $365.
The planned release of both Supercharger kits is November/December, no later. I will be sure to post to FitFreaks about when we begin taking orders on our first run of Fit kits. This will allow you FitFreakers "first-dibs" on the new kit. The 5lb kit will be $3495, with the 10lb kit looking to be between $4500-$4995. There will be an upgrade from 5 to 10lbs, for you future boost junkies...
The header pic on the site is our Titanium Fit header. We will be offering this "Race-Only" header for $1195. We will also offer a Stainless "Race-Only" Header, for around $500.
Thanks again,
-Oscar Jackson Jr.
Last edited by Jackson Racing; Nov 5, 2006 at 12:38 PM.
