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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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well for one, I think the best bet for the auto tranny is to get a transmission oil cooler, to keep things under control.
 
Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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well for one, I think the best bet for the auto tranny is to get a transmission oil cooler, to keep things under control.
It was mentioned several pages ago that these would be complete kits with nothing else needed to buy.

I'm guessing that the oil transmission cooler will be taken into account for us future AT customers.
 

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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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Good questions. I'd also like to know if the stock tranny can handle the extra power without causing a reliability issue.
It may not be what you want to hear, but my guess is that Jackson Racing doesn't really know. At best, they'll tell you something like they said about the engine: "We've driven it for 6,500 miles, and it hasn't blown up yet."

With the 10 lb. kit, you're increasing power more than 60% over stock. Jackson Racing is a reputable tuner, and they probably won't sell something that will immediately destroy your transmission. On the other hand, will it reduce reliability and the overall life of the engine or transmission? Absolutely.
 
Old Nov 15, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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From what I understand, ATs have two issues. First, it is common knowledge that heat will contribute the most to trans failures. So to mitigate this, usually an aftermarket cooler can help...I doubt JR will include one of these in the kit...but they are cheap enough.

Second issue is torque capacity. This goes for ATs and manuals, but w/ the manual you can usually upgrade to a better clutch and hopefully the internals can handle the extra power.

Not so easy w/ the AT, it either can handle it or it will soon begin to wear out the clutch packs & slip. The aftermarket seems much slower to respond with upgraded internals...TCI makes a good kit for the Civic AT, and it is relatively inexpensive, but the average person would have an interesting time installing it. http://www.tciauto.com/Products/SportCompact/

Further, the AT will be limited in performance by the converter stall...these can be changed out more readily, but may be pricey.
 
Old Nov 16, 2006 | 01:38 AM
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is the USDM Fit on CVT auto or a 'normal' 4 or 5 AT? Mine's a CVT. I don't know which is easier to fry. but even without FI, I've put a tran cooler as I find that heat does affect the performance.
 
Old Nov 16, 2006 | 07:38 AM
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is the USDM Fit on CVT auto or a 'normal' 4 or 5 AT? Mine's a CVT. I don't know which is easier to fry. but even without FI, I've put a tran cooler as I find that heat does affect the performance.
The automatic in the US Fit is not the CVT. It's a conventional 5-speed automatic. I've read that Honda used at least the Civic auto's outer case (and possibly other parts) for the Fit auto to save cost. If that's true, the conventional auto may handle more torque than the CVT because it was originally designed for the Civic's larger engine.
 
Old Nov 16, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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I'm curious/stupid/"please educate me" question? Any heatsoak issues with the SC being close to the header like that?
 

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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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I thought Claymore busted that as Myth #2. (edit: I, me, moi) might be wrong.
 

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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by rockstock
I thought Claymore busted that as Myth #2. Might be wrong.
Don't get that started again.

Something tells me Jackson Racing have taken that into account during the design. There's so much room back there, air flow must be pretty good.
 
Old Nov 16, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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Don't get that started again.

Something tells me Jackson Racing have taken that into account during the design. There's so much room back there, air flow must be pretty good.
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by b17gsr
Don't get that started again.

Something tells me Jackson Racing have taken that into account during the design. ...There's so much room back there, air flow must be pretty good.
hmm i must be missing some history here (edit:... ahhh in my previous post i meant I might be wrong....not anyone else... my bad...) . but i tend to agree that once on the move, heat from the header should only have some marginal effect.

I remember also reading somewhere that due to the metal pipe being hot, air flow on the inner surface tends to be slower than in the middle. feel free to dispute that, here to learn.
 
Old Nov 16, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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First off, Jackson Racing's AT Fit kit will be available as a 5 psi kit only.

The Automatic Transmission Kits & Testing:

All Jackson Racing kits go through rigorous testing to ensure maximum power with maximum reliability. Our base 5 psi kits previously yielded excellent reliability.

Honda automatic transmissions have had reliability issues in the past with some models, without boost.

We believe that our automatic transmission customers will be pleased with the outcome of the 5 psi kit.

Heat:

We have had output temps on the 10 psi kit around 150F. This was summer heat, for continuous load periods. We are not worried about heat, especially with the Rotrex.

-Oscar Jr.
 
Old Nov 16, 2006 | 09:08 PM
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Here we go again!! Oh NO Mr. Bill. I really really wish more NEW MEMBERS would read up on old posts before jumping in. Sigh
kekekekeke sorry my bad. read only the 1st post..., OT here anyway..
 
Old Nov 16, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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just curious...would putting a tranny cooler in the fit benefit without getting the SC. I have done I/H/E and underdrive pulley. I have an A/T. Just wondering if a tranny cooler would help my A/T last because i beat on it alot.
 
Old Nov 17, 2006 | 12:23 AM
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JR any updates for when we could start pre-order this SC? (i.e. online?)

When will be the product release? (You have mentioned it will be sometime in Nov/Dec) Since now is already middle of Nov, so do you have a more exact date?
 
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 10:21 AM
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Any updates!! I know WAVE is ready to buy, and I'm eager to install and feel!!
 
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by leonine
just curious...would putting a tranny cooler in the fit benefit without getting the SC. I have done I/H/E and underdrive pulley. I have an A/T. Just wondering if a tranny cooler would help my A/T last because i beat on it alot.
where did you get that UD pulley?
 
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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Any updates!! I know WAVE is ready to buy, and I'm eager to install and feel!!
You're bad for my bank account bro!
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by sLiVeRwOrM
where did you get that UD pulley?
I think he meant lightweight as in the mythelogy pulley
 



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