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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BMW ALPINA
Hello,

I am currently ordering Michelin Pilot Super Sports Tire,
which should come soon.
The reason for the long wait is because my wheel were not common size so it is not in stock, and I have to wait.

My size is 225/40-ZR18.

I notice nobody (at least from what I read so far) in this forum were using
Michelin Pilot Super Sports tire for Honda Fit.
but there must be someone here who had been using Michelin Pilot Super Sports tire,
and I would to hear the Honda Fit owner review on this tire.

Also did you know whether anybody successfully using 225/40-ZR18 without rubbing NOT lowered (wheel 18x7 et 42) ?

I do plan to lower the car later, but at this point I am not going to lower it yet, and wonder whether at stock height this will rub right away or not.

If I do lower the car later,
do you think I can get away just by using 2 SPC camber bolt per size resulting in 1.75 degree negative camber, (front wheel)
or I still need to pull/roll the fender even after the camber bolt?

and how about the rear of the car, can you predict whether
this tire/wheel combo fit right to the edge of the rear fender,
or do I still need spacer for the tightest fit?
If I still need spacer, how thick would it be, based from your experience?

Thank You.
Who helped you pick that tire size for your Fit? What year Fit?
If you were to use 18" wheels you would want 215/35-18 tires which measure tire diameter of 23.9" tall. OEM tire for 2008 Fit Sport was 205/45-16 with tire diameter of 23.3". Or 195/55-15, tire diameter 23.3"

At tirerack.com if you use the upgrade garage then 18x7.5" wheels with +42 to 45mm offset is OK. Use the 215/35-18 tire.

225/40-18 has a tire diameter of 25" which is too tall for the Fit. Not a good choice. For the Michelin Pilot Super Sport the closest size for 18" would be a tall 205/40-18 with tire diameter of 24.5". There are no sizes in 15" or 16" for that tire. For a 17" wheel it would be a tall 205/45-17 with 24.3" tire diameter. Chance for rubbing is high.

So while the Super Sport is a great tire it doesn't come in sizes for the Fit.
 
Old Mar 14, 2013 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MINI-Fit
Who helped you pick that tire size for your Fit? What year Fit?
If you were to use 18" wheels you would want 215/35-18 tires which measure tire diameter of 23.9" tall. OEM tire for 2008 Fit Sport was 205/45-16 with tire diameter of 23.3". Or 195/55-15, tire diameter 23.3"

At tirerack.com if you use the upgrade garage then 18x7.5" wheels with +42 to 45mm offset is OK. Use the 215/35-18 tire.

225/40-18 has a tire diameter of 25" which is too tall for the Fit. Not a good choice. For the Michelin Pilot Super Sport the closest size for 18" would be a tall 205/40-18 with tire diameter of 24.5". There are no sizes in 15" or 16" for that tire. For a 17" wheel it would be a tall 205/45-17 with 24.3" tire diameter. Chance for rubbing is high.

So while the Super Sport is a great tire it doesn't come in sizes for the Fit.
Hello,
I choose the tire size my self because I only want to buy Michelin Pilot Super Sport and no other tire. In the past I had owned many great tire from Dunlop, Pirelli, Goodyear, Yokohama, and Bridgestone,
but not once I ever owned a Michelin, so this time I want to try Michelin tire because lately most highest performing car in the world came standard from factory with this tire.

I read on this board and there are ONLY one person who was able to fit a 225/40 ZR-18. His wheel are even wider than mine at 7.5in with the same exact et42 offset, so in theory my wheel with only 7in should help. He is NOT lowered though...
Here is his post:
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/fit-...ml#post1115322

so I wonder whether any body else had the same tire size here, just for second opinion/experience.

The only think that might be different is I don't think he is using Michelin Pilot Super Sports though... so that might be the determining factor...

I choose the larger tire instead of the 205 or 215/40ZR18 is because they should give extra protection on the lips of the wheel (against curb etc)...
I also think the 40 profile should give the better protection against potholes, since I am going to use this everyday,
so I need a wheel that going to be protected as much as possible from potholes.

That is why I really want to know if anybody here had experience of using Michelin Pilot Super Sports, on how they perform on Small LIGHT car like Honda Fit.
I also want to know whether they were larger for the same size than other brand.
Because for BMW M5, the Michelin Pilot Super Sports is larger when compare to the same size but other brand.

It is just that if possible, I don't want to roll or pull my fender for now, at least not until I lowered the car with Coil Springs...
but
when I am ready to buy the coil over suspension,
then I don't mind to roll or even pull my fender.

well,
I guess I just had to find it myself the hard way, and be the second person here who ever use this
size of tire and hopefully able to work around any problem that might arise of my tire choice ...
Wish Me Luck

Thank You again for your reply.
 

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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BMW ALPINA
Hello,
I choose the tire size my self because I only want to buy Michelin Pilot Super Sport and no other tire. In the past I had owned many great tire from Dunlop, Pirelli, Goodyear, Yokohama, and Bridgestone,
but not once I ever owned a Michelin, so this time I want to try Michelin tire because lately most highest performing car in the world came standard from factory with this tire.

I read on this board and there are ONLY one person who was able to fit a 225/40 ZR-18. His wheel are even wider than mine at 7.5in with the same exact et42 offset, so in theory my wheel with only 7in should help. He is NOT lowered though...
Here is his post:
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/fit-...ml#post1115322

so I wonder whether any body else had the same tire size here, just for second opinion/experience.

The only think that might be different is I don't think he is using Michelin Pilot Super Sports though... so that might be the determining factor...

I choose the larger tire instead of the 205 or 215/40ZR18 is because they should give extra protection on the lips of the wheel (against curb etc)...
I also think the 40 profile should give the better protection against potholes, since I am going to use this everyday,
so I need a wheel that going to be protected as much as possible from potholes.

That is why I really want to know if anybody here had experience of using Michelin Pilot Super Sports, on how they perform on Small LIGHT car like Honda Fit.
I also want to know whether they were larger for the same size than other brand.
Because for BMW M5, the Michelin Pilot Super Sports is larger when compare to the same size but other brand.

It is just that if possible, I don't want to roll or pull my fender for now, at least not until I lowered the car with Coil Springs...
but
when I am ready to buy the coil over suspension,
then I don't mind to roll or even pull my fender.

well,
I guess I just had to find it myself the hard way, and be the second person here who ever use this
size of tire and hopefully able to work around any problem that might arise of my tire choice ...
Wish Me Luck

Thank You again for your reply.
If you want to use 18" wheels then check post #11 in
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/sale...will-ship.html

Michelin is a good company and the Super Sport is their flagship tire. No harm being interested. However if you want to put the Super Sport on a Fit it will have to be the size that fits your wheel and is the smallest tire diameter which is still taller than stock.

205/40-18 is not a bad choice in sizes compared to the others. 205mm is fine for a 7" wide rim, it is not too narrow a tire and helps being not overly wide for the fit. 225mm wide tires are much wider than stock tires so not only would they be too tall, they give less clearance for width. 40 series sidewall is stiff for street use, good thing you have stock suspension.

The only thing in your favor is if you are using stock suspension. However a tall tire will look "too large" once you get it installed since the proportions of the tire to the wheel well is for a smaller tire.

I have personally installed a 215/45-17 tire on a 17x7" offset 42mm wheel on a 2008 Fit Sport with stock suspension. No rubbing but the tire looked oversized tall at 24.7". I did not try it fully loaded with four people or over dips, just on smooth streets at low speeds.

Once you lower the fit you will have a hard time with any tire that is taller than stock tire diameter.

It would be helpful for you to talk to a tire specialist, a good one I know is Alex@tirerack.com, extention 294 if you call the toll free number.

In 215/35-18 there are not any good Michelin tires for the Fit. Perhaps you could consider 17" wheels?
 
Old Mar 14, 2013 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MINI-Fit
If you want to use 18" wheels then check post #11 in
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/sale...will-ship.html

Michelin is a good company and the Super Sport is their flagship tire. No harm being interested. However if you want to put the Super Sport on a Fit it will have to be the size that fits your wheel and is the smallest tire diameter which is still taller than stock.

205/40-18 is not a bad choice in sizes compared to the others. 205mm is fine for a 7" wide rim, it is not too narrow a tire and helps being not overly wide for the fit. 225mm wide tires are much wider than stock tires so not only would they be too tall, they give less clearance for width. 40 series sidewall is stiff for street use, good thing you have stock suspension.

The only thing in your favor is if you are using stock suspension. However a tall tire will look "too large" once you get it installed since the proportions of the tire to the wheel well is for a smaller tire.

I have personally installed a 215/45-17 tire on a 17x7" offset 42mm wheel on a 2008 Fit Sport with stock suspension. No rubbing but the tire looked oversized tall at 24.7". I did not try it fully loaded with four people or over dips, just on smooth streets at low speeds.

Once you lower the fit you will have a hard time with any tire that is taller than stock tire diameter.

It would be helpful for you to talk to a tire specialist, a good one I know is Alex@tirerack.com, extention 294 if you call the toll free number.

In 215/35-18 there are not any good Michelin tires for the Fit. Perhaps you could consider 17" wheels?
Hello MINI-Fit,
first of all, Thank You for your comprehensive reply.
I really appreciate it.
I actually buy my wheel and tire from TireRack, and they had warn me that my tire and wheel choice MIGHT require rolling the fender.
But as you know, the good people at tirerack are mostly try to be conservative with their estimate for rubbing problem,
but I guess after getting advise from you guys here at fitfreak,
I should just prepare for the worst and just roll the fender from the start (even with my current stock suspension).

The 205 is another choice, but I worry it might not be enough to protect the wheel lips from curb, so I decided with the 225...
I had no plan to change wheel every year, so this wheel better last a long time, since I plan to use this Honda Fit for a very long time.
plus I want the tire to look as wide as possible from behind,

I am also not a fan of the stretch look,...
I mean most real race car do not have stretch tire look.
Like this NON Stretch look from Honda WTCC:













I had to had 18in wheel, because in the future I plan to install a 355mm rotor inside the front wheel... the 17in wheel would not be large enough for this application.

I am doing all this modification strictly for looks, I am NOT going to race or track this car... I am too old now

Thanks again for all your advise guys, I now know that I should expect
to roll the fender right away...
 
Old Mar 15, 2013 | 02:31 AM
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It's good that you have sourced your tires and wheels from tirerack.com.

Yes, they tend to be conservative with wheel and tire fitment but there are some additional tricks to make things fit.

Giving me more information about what you want is helpful.

In your case I would recommend Michelin Pilot Sport in 205/40-18.

This tire size fits rims 7 to 8" wide with perfect fit for 7.5" wide rim. This means that this tire fits fine for a 7" rim with more protection than you think. In my experience you will be fine for street use assuming you are not careless at parking very close to curbs.

Since tire diameter is only 24.5" you won't have to roll the fenders with stock suspension so that's less work for you. As the tire wears down over time it will get closer to a stock tire diameter. It will still look a little tall for the Fit but that is OK since rubbing risk will be minimal given your wheel size.

205/40-18 is $176 each, fits 7-8" rims, 20 lbs, 24.5" tire diameter
215/40-18 is $243 each, fits 7-8.5" rims, 20 lbs, 24.8" tire diameter

Later on if you do lower your Fit, try to choose ride height adjustable Coilovers. This will allow you to drop the suspension just enough to allow for tire clearance.
 
Old Jun 12, 2013 | 06:00 PM
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im trying to buy a 17x7 +37 w/ 205/40 tires.. will it rub? btw, i have a 2010..
 
Old Jun 13, 2013 | 07:58 AM
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Anything lower than a 45mm offset will rub. You are going to have to roll the fender lips and run more negative camber to make it work.
 
Old Jun 14, 2013 | 07:23 PM
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all season replacement tire suggestions for Honda fit base model please...
 
Old Jun 15, 2013 | 10:44 AM
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What year and model car? Size on the wheels.
 
Old Sep 13, 2013 | 04:29 PM
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Quick newbie question about winter wheels/tires:

We just moved from NYC to the Twin Cities (Minnesota), with our 2007 Fit Sport, and are thinking about getting winter tires and wheels. We've been told that you don't *need* winter tires in the city, but it's safer, and we're not experienced snow drivers so it's probably a good idea.

Any opinions about these tires?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....tnum=765TR4XI2

One thing that makes me concerned is the fact that they are from 2009... Will the rubber have deteriorated?

Also, if we just get a set of basic 14" steel wheels from TireRack, do we need any extra mounting hardware? I've read things about hub centric spacers etc, but don't fully understand if that applies to these relatively basic wheels...

Thanks!
 
Old Sep 13, 2013 | 05:47 PM
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Just find some 14" steel wheels from an older Civic (4x100 hub pattern, 56.1mm hub bore). Buy at junkyard or on Craigslist for cheap. That way you know offset, hub pattern and lug pattern will match up perfectly, because older Civics' steel wheels share all those specs with the Fit. Your stock lugnuts will work with these wheels as well, which are ball seats like your lugnuts you have now.

I am sorry I don't know anything about winter tires. (location location).
 
Old Sep 13, 2013 | 06:47 PM
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If the wheels need new lugs they will be in the package at no charge. They will also be hub centric for the Fit. Winter tires will make a big difference in the ice and snow. Even just on a cold day the winter tires will give you better traction.
If I can help let me know.
 
Old Sep 13, 2013 | 10:26 PM
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Thanks - what about the '2009 production' part? Would they be expected to have reduced life?
 
Old Sep 14, 2013 | 10:56 AM
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Tires are good for 10 years from the date of manufacturing or 6 years of use on the vehicle. At 69.00 for a Michelin tire with a 70.00 mail in rebate it would be a very good tire for the car.
If I can help let me know.
 
Old Sep 16, 2013 | 03:54 PM
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Thanks - i've gone ahead and ordered them!
 
Old Sep 16, 2013 | 04:11 PM
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What was the last name on the order?
 
Old Sep 16, 2013 | 05:07 PM
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>What was the last name on the order?

PM'ed you with it.
 
Old Oct 3, 2013 | 03:41 PM
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i'm trying to get 17x7 +40 and i don't know what kind of tires to get. suggestions? i know it depends on what look i'm going for, but i haven't quite decided yet. any suggestions will be greatly appreciated


i mainly just need brand suggestions i guess.
 

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Old Oct 3, 2013 | 04:25 PM
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http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSe...40&diameter=17

205/40/17 Tons of choices in this size. You'll want an all-season, I assume you deal with rain and occasional snow in Maryland. You can read reviews on TireRack website as well.

You may have to add camber to the front suspension with that size and offset wheel/tire combo to avoid rubbing. That can be done with a pair of $30 bolts and an alignment.
 
Old Oct 3, 2013 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanderer.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSe...40&diameter=17

205/40/17 Tons of choices in this size. You'll want an all-season, I assume you deal with rain and occasional snow in Maryland. You can read reviews on TireRack website as well.

You may have to add camber to the front suspension with that size and offset wheel/tire combo to avoid rubbing. That can be done with a pair of $30 bolts and an alignment.
i am trying to avoid adding camber. i do however wish to lower my car. suggestions on wheel sizes then?
 



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