What is wrong with my Fit??
I seriously doubt it. I live in a gated community and work on a university campus with regular campus police patrols.
What WOULD explain it, though, is not all the fuel evaporating and some leaking into the charcoal canister, which someone has brought up in this thread before. It would also explain the reason my "check fuel cap" message scrolled across the info center twice, and my maintenance light came on, the code for which read something about evap (don't remember and the auto parts store that checked the code cleared it before I could tell them not to.)
What WOULD explain it, though, is not all the fuel evaporating and some leaking into the charcoal canister, which someone has brought up in this thread before. It would also explain the reason my "check fuel cap" message scrolled across the info center twice, and my maintenance light came on, the code for which read something about evap (don't remember and the auto parts store that checked the code cleared it before I could tell them not to.)
Based on your statements so far, I side with the car.
I manually calculated the MPG when I got the car and was annoyed by the inaccuracy. When the TSB for the software update was announced correcting the problem I was in there pretty quick. And I anally checked the mpg against the computer for the next 2 years. After a hundred or so fills where the computer was within 1MPG of manual calculations it got a bit boring.
I suspect the lifetime average for your car is staring you in your face, and your entire thread is a rant over being subjected to a car you consider beneath you. Since your previous ride (03 Impala?) and this one were purchased by your mother, I do think there is something Freudian going on. And it's not with your Fit's fuel consumption.
I manually calculated the MPG when I got the car and was annoyed by the inaccuracy. When the TSB for the software update was announced correcting the problem I was in there pretty quick. And I anally checked the mpg against the computer for the next 2 years. After a hundred or so fills where the computer was within 1MPG of manual calculations it got a bit boring.
I suspect the lifetime average for your car is staring you in your face, and your entire thread is a rant over being subjected to a car you consider beneath you. Since your previous ride (03 Impala?) and this one were purchased by your mother, I do think there is something Freudian going on. And it's not with your Fit's fuel consumption.
I never topped the tank off, I used to round up to the nearest 25 cent increment. But the last two tanks I let the floater stop it. And the last two tanks have shown worse mpg (29 and 28 respectively.)
I have no problem resetting the average mpg display. Do you want me to do it right now? Or before I go on my trip, as was previously suggested?
I have no idea what your point is. You're saying you used to have the same problem, but you took your car in and they did a software update and that fixed the problem, so your computer was off? So my computer may be off, and if I get it fixed it will be accurate? Which means my calculations are correct, so I really am getting below average mpg?
No, the 09 Fits had a defect corrected by a software flash. Later years are accurate. My conclusion is your estimation for the amount of city driving you are doing is way off. Unless of course you don't know how to track your miles since the last fill; I normally CLEAR THE TRIP ODOMETER at fill up and let the car do it. Of course the odometer might be off </sarcasm>
Last edited by Steve244; Jul 17, 2012 at 08:39 PM.
How many gallons do you put in?
Both.
Both.
Other less obvious things could include, for example, having the vent setting in either of the defrost settings, which runs the AC by default even if the AC switch is not on. I used to have a car where this was not the case and I liked the air coming out near the windshield; but because this runs the AC in my car now, I don't do it!
Or "warming up" the car for a while before moving. Especially true if someone has an auto-start in the car; they turn it on and then later go out to the car.
And of course, since the car is being shared by two people there is the small possibility that the other driver is doing something strange that the OP doesn't know about. I once got a ride with a classmate who had the AC on during a day when it seemed unnecessary, I think he had the windows down, and when I pointed it out that he could turn it off, he just said .. "but why would I? then I'd have to turn it on later some time. no, I just leave it on permanently." Go figure.
Not saying any of this is happening, necessarily. Just, there's all sorts of weird stuff you never think people would do while driving.
So you can consider and then reject each in turn if it doesn't apply.
This bullshit thread is almost two months old and has been constantly active, I don't know why this is still being entertained. With all the time that's been spent ITT you could have spoonfed all the noobs 100x over. I've come to three conclusions:
1) There is nothing wrong with OP's car.
2) OP doesn't like the Fit or Honda (anymore), ok, carry on.
3) There isn't enough OG content on FF.net, so people are just posting here because they're bored and unfortunately this is currently the most active thread on the forum.
At least I hope that #3 is the reason for the continued existence of this thread, because I don't think seb9316 from Little Rock AR's opinion of the car is going to make or break it's future sales or existance, why people are wasting their time to sway his opinion is beyond me.
amirite?
youguisebored?
1) There is nothing wrong with OP's car.
2) OP doesn't like the Fit or Honda (anymore), ok, carry on.
3) There isn't enough OG content on FF.net, so people are just posting here because they're bored and unfortunately this is currently the most active thread on the forum.
At least I hope that #3 is the reason for the continued existence of this thread, because I don't think seb9316 from Little Rock AR's opinion of the car is going to make or break it's future sales or existance, why people are wasting their time to sway his opinion is beyond me.
amirite?
youguisebored?
It's like having a brand new channel on the TV. And it's interactive!I do try to be serious in all my comments but I don't think poor seb is going to be changing his mind about his Honda... ever ..
No, the 09 Fits had a defect corrected by a software flash. Later years are accurate. My conclusion is your estimation for the amount of city driving you are doing is way off. Unless of course you don't know how to track your miles since the last fill; I normally CLEAR THE TRIP ODOMETER at fill up and let the car do it. Of course the odometer might be off </sarcasm>
I'm not. At LEAST 70% or so of the mileage on this car is interstate.
I have been tracking mileage on my cars since I was 16. On most, like the Hondas I had before this one, I tracked it a few times, found that the numbers matched the EPA numbers, and just let it go. This one has no explanation. And yes obviously i reset the trip odometer every time I fill up.
However much it takes to fill it up again.
Ok... think about this carefully--what are you trying to prove from me doing this? If it comes out to be what I am seeing on my calculations, I was right. If it comes out to be way over, I'm still right--my numbers don't lie.
I'm fine with doing it- I just don't know what you hope to prove. That I don't know how to divide?
Ok... think about this carefully--what are you trying to prove from me doing this? If it comes out to be what I am seeing on my calculations, I was right. If it comes out to be way over, I'm still right--my numbers don't lie.
I'm fine with doing it- I just don't know what you hope to prove. That I don't know how to divide?
However much it takes to fill it up again.
Ok... think about this carefully--what are you trying to prove from me doing this? If it comes out to be what I am seeing on my calculations, I was right. If it comes out to be way over, I'm still right--my numbers don't lie.
I'm fine with doing it- I just don't know what you hope to prove. That I don't know how to divide?
Ok... think about this carefully--what are you trying to prove from me doing this? If it comes out to be what I am seeing on my calculations, I was right. If it comes out to be way over, I'm still right--my numbers don't lie.
I'm fine with doing it- I just don't know what you hope to prove. That I don't know how to divide?
Think carefully... you're stupit. Just sell it already.
Let's not call names, that's not going to help in any way. Seb has been trolling, or been trolled if you want, for a long time now here and has maintained a pretty level keep without getting unduly mad or upset at anyone. At least given his posts. Can't say what is going on at the other side of his screen.
But seriously it's 25 pages now. Even I might lose interest soon. What else is there to talk about? Have you listed the car yet? Any takers?
But seriously it's 25 pages now. Even I might lose interest soon. What else is there to talk about? Have you listed the car yet? Any takers?
Oh I wanted to comment earlier on the EPA usefulness. I agree initially it seems useless that they say "your mileage may be completely different" and that it's only a comparison between cars, but really, it isn't useless.
First because you actually can use it as a comparison. If you were able to get 2mpg over the rated on an Accord, then if you buy a Santa Fe or something else you should be able to have some confidence that with your own driving style and route you should be able to slightly exceed the estimate there, too.
Second because if you think about it, it's not possible for the EPA, or anyone else, to estimate accurately in advance what sort of mpg you'll get. Because everyone drives differently and in different conditions! Just to keep it real, if I come on and say I'm getting 29mpg, what does that prove? Well nothing except that I myself am getting those mpg and probably will continue to, but it doesn't say anything about you.
That's my view
.. I used to get all bent out of shape about the inaccurate EPA estimates but now I just get bent out of shape about people who cannot hit them ... like the guy at my train station who idles in his brand new Camaro every day while having the windows down and running the AC ... it's just the waste and the pollution that eat at me, specifically when it's being done for no goal at all ...
First because you actually can use it as a comparison. If you were able to get 2mpg over the rated on an Accord, then if you buy a Santa Fe or something else you should be able to have some confidence that with your own driving style and route you should be able to slightly exceed the estimate there, too.
Second because if you think about it, it's not possible for the EPA, or anyone else, to estimate accurately in advance what sort of mpg you'll get. Because everyone drives differently and in different conditions! Just to keep it real, if I come on and say I'm getting 29mpg, what does that prove? Well nothing except that I myself am getting those mpg and probably will continue to, but it doesn't say anything about you.
That's my view
.. I used to get all bent out of shape about the inaccurate EPA estimates but now I just get bent out of shape about people who cannot hit them ... like the guy at my train station who idles in his brand new Camaro every day while having the windows down and running the AC ... it's just the waste and the pollution that eat at me, specifically when it's being done for no goal at all ...
You're probably right about me not changing my mind, since I have proven there is nothing I can personally do differently to get magically better numbers on this car, which means there's something wrong with the car, which no one wants to believe but yet can't give a reasonable explanation for the mileage I'm getting. It's pathetic and so we now have it for sale for $15,500.
Why? What is the point of you wanting me to reset the average mpg?
I'll do it- I just want to know what it's going to prove.
I'll do it- I just want to know what it's going to prove.
Its a dumb freaking damn question because its a variable not a constant!
Let's not call names, that's not going to help in any way. Seb has been trolling, or been trolled if you want, for a long time now here and has maintained a pretty level keep without getting unduly mad or upset at anyone. At least given his posts. Can't say what is going on at the other side of his screen.
But seriously it's 25 pages now. Even I might lose interest soon. What else is there to talk about? Have you listed the car yet? Any takers?
But seriously it's 25 pages now. Even I might lose interest soon. What else is there to talk about? Have you listed the car yet? Any takers?
Why is getting substantially worse mpg than the car is supposed to give me and wanting to find out why "trolling?" This is a very serious question.


