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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 03:05 PM
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I'll stick with the dongle. Plug in and forget it, they work with any smartphone or any laptop equipped with bluetooth.

Alternately you can get wifi dongles too.
Okay, thats nice.

I am more than aware of what's available for bottom-basic logging. But please, keep repeating yourself.

Did you miss this post from the OP?:

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I don't have a smart phone.
 
Old Jul 13, 2012 | 03:09 PM
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No, I ignored it since my original comment was never directed at OP.
 
Old Jul 13, 2012 | 09:17 PM
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OK, I hit 175 miles on this current tank of gas on the way home, right as the fuel gauge hit half full. Do the math and with the 10.6 gallon gas tank that would be a hair less than 35mpg off this tank when it hits empty, IF the fuel level doesn't drop like a rock from here on out.

We'll see.
 
Old Jul 13, 2012 | 09:22 PM
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Fwiw, fuel gauges aren't very linear devices. I wouldn't trust the 50% line to equate to any particular amount of fuel in the tank. I'd trust something like a scan gauge/ ultragauge that can evaluate how much gas the injectors have shot in to be a bit more reliable.
 
Old Jul 14, 2012 | 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by seb9316
OK, I hit 175 miles on this current tank of gas on the way home, right as the fuel gauge hit half full. Do the math and with the 10.6 gallon gas tank that would be a hair less than 35mpg off this tank when it hits empty, IF the fuel level doesn't drop like a rock from here on out.

We'll see.
Seb, try this. You know how to figure gas mileage. Now try to figure out how to fill up the same way each time. Always let the fill-up end on the lowest filling speed and don't top off. This will mean you are probably filling the tank to the same level each time.
 
Old Jul 15, 2012 | 03:58 PM
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Just have your mom trade the fit for a prius C and be done with it.
 
Old Jul 15, 2012 | 07:25 PM
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Just have your mom trade the fit for a prius C and be done with it.
Then the priuschat forum gets a sudden deluge of drive ability/MPG complaints from a new Prius C owner.

It will never be done... only shifted somewhere else.
 
Old Jul 15, 2012 | 07:51 PM
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You are doing yourself a disservice, seb, and it could be causing part of your unhappiness, by figuring the mpg as you are doing it. You cannot rely on the fuel indicator as an accurate readout of how much fuel you have used up. At "half full" (or as you could prefer, half empty), you may have used 40% or 60%, who knows? You could probably get something anywhere between 20 and 40mpg by doing that. In some cars when you stop quickly gas sloshes to the front of the tank (where the meter is) and wow you get more gas magically! They are not accurate devices, because they don't need to be extremely accurate as long as they more or less tell you when you're about to make an unplanned pit stop.

Here's what you need to do. Fill the tank and reset the trip odometer. Drive for a while. Fill the tank again and note a) how many miles you drove (and reset the odo for the next one), and b) how many gallons you put it. I write the miles on the gas receipt, otherwise I would forget it instantly.

Now you know:
1) The miles you have driven and
2) The amount of gas you burned over that time.

Now you can make MPG!

If you can fill the same way each time, and at the same station, that helps (the same station also zeroes out any cumulative elevation change between A and B). I don't generally care about this though; I figure the variance will zero out over time and I don't worry if I get

I just drove 240.2 miles using 6.200 gallons of shell; this tank was probably about 2/3 highway. I'm pretty happy with my 38.7 mpg, both because lots of this involved using the AC, and also because the meter in the car only indicated 38.4! (But, generally it runs 3% optimistic).

If I had a Prius I'd be furious about getting 38.4mpg - my friend says he averages 46, which is still below the EPA guess - but because I'm driving a mini-minivan that hauls cargo easily, is fun to drive, relatively comfortable, doesn't rely on heavy or expensive technology, and is one of the cheapest cars you can buy, I really can't complain.
 
Old Jul 15, 2012 | 08:11 PM
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Oh also I wanted to give you a baseline to compare your driving style too; I paid attention at one point over the weekend. This is with an automatic, letting the car shift.

From a stoplight, I'm into 2nd by 10mph; into 3rd by 20; into 4th by 30; and into 5th by 38. Those might be off by small amounts but they really did line up pretty close to the 10mph marks (except 5th).

If you drive like that, and then come back and say you still get 27mpg, then I'll start wondering if something is wrong with your car.

Now if you want to you can do the whole "waaarrgarble in the real world that's impossible to do!" thing. And I get it, believe me. I don't say I accelerate that slowly all the time; sometimes I definitely have to put my foot down. But only sometimes, and if there's no car behind me then I'll get up to speed as slow as I please. You may not like admitting it, but if your car is upshifting much later than mine then you (or your mom) may actually be driving more aggressively than you think, and it's less likely you'll get decent mpg (which is averaging 34 for me so far in about a 50/50 mix city/highway). I mean "aggressively" in terms of efficiency; it doesn't mean you're driving excessively fast or dangerously. That depends more on the speeds you maintain relative to traffic, and you should use good judgement there too.

Trust me, it can be done, if you want to do it. My wife for example, doesn't care - she hates driving, isn't going to think about shift points, and if she wants to go forward right now then that's what the car will be instructed to do. And her MPG is not 34; she gets 28 or so (that 34 includes about 10% of her driving). But it doesn't matter; in fact my own economy doesn't matter much since we both take the train to work and the car sits there alone. I just like the challenge more than anything I suppose, or the satisfaction of saving (really not that much) money. That's just my n=1 situation. Hope it helps!
 
Old Jul 15, 2012 | 09:36 PM
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My wife is the principle driver of our Fit. She actually accelerates pretty hard compared to me, but rarely, if ever, drives more than 5 mph over the speed limit and rarely uses the car on anything other than 55 mph roads. She gets a solid 38 or so, according to the readout. I never know how much she gets per fill-up because I aint doing it most of the time.
 
Old Jul 16, 2012 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Goobers
Then the priuschat forum gets a sudden deluge of drive ability/MPG complaints from a new Prius C owner.

It will never be done... only shifted somewhere else.

Your right about that-- I sure won't trade for a Prius, when the Hyundai Sonata my mom bought a couple months ago is averaging 32 mpg and is a much more powerful, comfortable, and better equipped car.
 
Old Jul 16, 2012 | 10:34 AM
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You are doing yourself a disservice, seb, and it could be causing part of your unhappiness, by figuring the mpg as you are doing it. You cannot rely on the fuel indicator as an accurate readout of how much fuel you have used up. At "half full" (or as you could prefer, half empty), you may have used 40% or 60%, who knows? You could probably get something anywhere between 20 and 40mpg by doing that. In some cars when you stop quickly gas sloshes to the front of the tank (where the meter is) and wow you get more gas magically! They are not accurate devices, because they don't need to be extremely accurate as long as they more or less tell you when you're about to make an unplanned pit stop.

Here's what you need to do. Fill the tank and reset the trip odometer. Drive for a while. Fill the tank again and note a) how many miles you drove (and reset the odo for the next one), and b) how many gallons you put it. I write the miles on the gas receipt, otherwise I would forget it instantly.

Now you know:
1) The miles you have driven and
2) The amount of gas you burned over that time.

Now you can make MPG!

If you can fill the same way each time, and at the same station, that helps (the same station also zeroes out any cumulative elevation change between A and B). I don't generally care about this though; I figure the variance will zero out over time and I don't worry if I get

I just drove 240.2 miles using 6.200 gallons of shell; this tank was probably about 2/3 highway. I'm pretty happy with my 38.7 mpg, both because lots of this involved using the AC, and also because the meter in the car only indicated 38.4! (But, generally it runs 3% optimistic).

If I had a Prius I'd be furious about getting 38.4mpg - my friend says he averages 46, which is still below the EPA guess - but because I'm driving a mini-minivan that hauls cargo easily, is fun to drive, relatively comfortable, doesn't rely on heavy or expensive technology, and is one of the cheapest cars you can buy, I really can't complain.
You must have skipped over the 20 posts where I said I calculate my own mileage. And you are not getting 38 mpg. Nowhere close. If you are, you only just proved that there is something definitely wrong with my car.
I am continually amazed by the people on here who are so tied to Honda that they can't look out beyond the Fit and see there are better performing cars out there that get better mileage, at least than mine. None of you have anything to fall back on other than it must be the way Im driving my car, yet the Sonata my mom bought is a more powerful, larger, and heavier car, with a larger engine, but it is beating our Fit hands down in fuel mileage, and we drive it the same way in the same climate. They just took the Sonata on a two week trip to Seattle (because unlike the Fit this car can actually be comfortably driven to Seattle, which furthers my point that the Fit is supposed to be a city car to give great fule mileage yet that's where I am suffering the worst) in a mix of city and highway driving, and have driven it around for a week since in Little Rock, and the fuel mileage we just calculated this past weekend on our last fill up was 32.3 mpg. Someone, ANYONE, explain this, since the Fit is SUCH a great fule mileage car. If you're going to chime in with "well mine gets 38 mpg so you must be driving it wrong" then let me stop you right there and correct your little comment by stating the obvious-- that since you are getting that much better fuel mileage than I am, and since our larger Sonata is doing so much better than the Fit in the SAME climate, being driven the SAME way, then it's NOT me--its the freaking CAR. Now, how about you explain to me why Honda is under no obligation to help fix my car just because no lights are coming on saying there is something wrong, even though it's clear that there is a problem. All of you want to bash Hyundai for not being clearer in their ads about when you get 40 mpg in the Elantra, yet it's clearly OK for Honda to use their touted mpg of the Fit to sell cars, even when at least SOME of them (like mine) show that is clearly not the case. How about you all take your heads out of Honda's ass and help, instead of raving about the supposed 38 mpg youre getting.
 

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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by cruzn246
My wife is the principle driver of our Fit. She actually accelerates pretty hard compared to me, but rarely, if ever, drives more than 5 mph over the speed limit and rarely uses the car on anything other than 55 mph roads. She gets a solid 38 or so, according to the readout. I never know how much she gets per fill-up because I aint doing it most of the time.

No she doesn't. ANd I'm going to keep replying "no you don't" or "no she doesn't" until I either see proof that you're not just saying this crap to bolster your love for Honda or until someone figures out how to fix my car so that I get better mileage, cause it ain't ME or the way I am driving it. None of you seem to understand that by continually lauding your 38 or 40 mpg, you are in essence saying there is DEFINITELY something wrong with my car, but you won't because you know in Honda's world these days they won't try to help me unless the damn dash is lighting up like a Christmas tree.
 

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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 10:49 AM
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Your mom got a Sonata. GTFO of the Fit forums and go add some suck to a Hyundai forum.
 
Old Jul 16, 2012 | 10:51 AM
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We've pretty much decided to sell the Fit, we talked about it a couple times more over the weekend and it's just SUCH a disappointment. If Honda actually wanted to sympathize and help fix the problem without charging us an arm and a leg especially since it only has 10,000 miles on it, that would be one thing. But Honda is more concerned about PR these days and their dealerships seem to have become condescending. My niece is looking for a first car and she won't be paying attention to fuel mileage as much and all that, to her it's just that she has a car to drive to high school. WHAT a disappointment, enough to turn me away from being a Honda enthusiast as I was in the past. It's really a shame, I had such high hopes for this car and all the media outlets tote it as such as great purchase, but unfortunately the time has come to call a spade a spade.
None of you helped either and I don't wish to be part of a group like that.
 

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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 10:52 AM
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The sonata is a more expensive car. A Toyota tundra hauls more stuff than a Fit, but I don't fault the Fit for not being a pickup.

And why is it impossible for it to be you? You're too dumb to trade in a car you don't like for one you do; it's pretty clearly possible for you to be too dumb to drive the fit in an economical way.
 
Old Jul 16, 2012 | 10:52 AM
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Your mom got a Sonata. GTFO of the Fit forums and go add some suck to a Hyundai forum.
You have no answers, I came on here with a genuine problem so don't throw vitriol my way like I intentionally came on here just to attack or troll. If you had bothered to try to help, it would be one thing. But you are a genuine reflection of the Honda crowd these days--condescending and misleading.
 
Old Jul 16, 2012 | 10:53 AM
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The sonata is a more expensive car. A Toyota tundra hauls more stuff than a Fit, but I don't fault the Fit for not being a pickup.

And why is it impossible for it to be you? You're too dumb to trade in a car you don't like for one you do; it's pretty clearly possible for you to be too dumb to drive the fit in an economical way.
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No way we would trade this in, and lose more money on a trade-in, it's going to be a flat sale. Now everyone seems to be upset because we are selling it because we found no help.
Also, as I have mentioned before, there is no reason I should have to work so hard and put in so much effort to get reasonable fuel economy out of this car, even IF I drove it like a bat out of hell, which a) I don't and b) is impossible in this car anyway. It should be giving me AT LEAST the mileage I am obtaining in the Sonata, since as I said it's being driven the same way in the same climate. But nope, and so your excuse makes no sense.
 

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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by seb9316
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No way we would trade this in, and lose more money on a trade-in, it's going to be a flat sale. Now everyone seems to be upset because we are selling it because we found no help.
Well... bye.
 
Old Jul 16, 2012 | 10:59 AM
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NO YOU DIDN'T COME HERE WITH A LEGITIMATE PROBLEM.

You came here with a problem that is not really a problem.

OMG you're getting 30 mpg in an auto car, using A/C, using the cruise, driving like the inefficient fool you are. Have fun getting over 25 mpg driving anything with similar hauling capacity.

No one is upset you're selling it. The sooner you sell it, the happier everyone else on planet Earth will be.

Just remember when you're next car gets worse mileage its prove that you fail at being a human being.
 



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