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Old Jul 23, 2012 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by seb9316
So here are the results of my trip to Dallas:

on the way down: 39.1 mpg
coming back: 36.3mpg

Now here's the funny thing: On the way down I kept the speed at around 68-69mph, and the average mpg display actually read 41-42mpg until I got to the Texas border. After I crossed into TX it steadily declined until I got to Dallas at which time it read 39.1. Still not bad, I figured the decline was probably due to the fuel pump having to work harder as the tank emptied.
However I refilled the tank before heading back, and on the way back I went a bit faster, around 73-74 mph. While in TX it constantly read around 34-35mpg, then when I got back into AR it actually CLIMBED to around 36 and read 36.3 when I got back home!
Only thing I can figure is lower pavement resistance in AR.
What? You are simply reporting the readout the estimator has at fill-up? What about doing the math?
 
Old Jul 23, 2012 | 04:39 PM
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So how pissed off should we be toward honda now that your highway milage is way above the EPA estimate?
 
Old Jul 23, 2012 | 05:48 PM
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How is selling your Fit going?

Did you manually compute the mpg at each fillup, or have you still not learned how to do that?

Have you finally figured out how to reset the trip meter, and that it resets the avg display at the same time?

Must be some tricky Honda Loyalists that build those roads in Texas. If Honda corp had any integrity at all they would examine those roads and give you a 200 page report on them.

Better ask the EPA to do a road surface study of all highways USA wide so they can give you accurate **estimates** of mpg in the future. Perhaps a different EPA estimate for every roadway US wide.

So, how IS the sale of this unFit going?


Originally Posted by seb9316
So here are the results of my trip to Dallas:

on the way down: 39.1 mpg
coming back: 36.3mpg

Now here's the funny thing: On the way down I kept the speed at around 68-69mph, and the average mpg display actually read 41-42mpg until I got to the Texas border. After I crossed into TX it steadily declined until I got to Dallas at which time it read 39.1. Still not bad, I figured the decline was probably due to the fuel pump having to work harder as the tank emptied.
However I refilled the tank before heading back, and on the way back I went a bit faster, around 73-74 mph. While in TX it constantly read around 34-35mpg, then when I got back into AR it actually CLIMBED to around 36 and read 36.3 when I got back home!
Only thing I can figure is lower pavement resistance in AR.
 
Old Jul 23, 2012 | 05:56 PM
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So, how IS the sale of this unFit going?
All talk and no action at this point.

It actually feels like he was "threatening" us with the sale. As if we were some bunch of folks with the mentality that "oh, he might sell it. we should go out of our way to convince him NOT to sell it."

I didn't say obsessed... because plenty ARE VERY OBSESSED... just not about trying to convince someone that has already made up their mind.

In my mind, there's some sort of pattern.

Come here, complain.
Get responses and deny/ignore them.
Call the responders names of various sorts.
Complain some more... threaten to sell the car.
Argue with responders.
Suddenly "have" a "its fine" day... where the MPG are "acceptable."
Then start all over (this is the THIRD time the car has been "acceptable").
 
Old Jul 23, 2012 | 11:59 PM
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Oh, don't get me wrong- it still accelerates like a lawn mower, and that seems to be the only way Honda can eek out decent mpg. It also has the worst AC of any car in recent memory. The rear headrests are a real bother, and the thing still decides to shift at weird times. I am a little happier, but it still only hits the extreme low end (28.4 as I reported earlier) in combination city/ highway driving, not the 31 that it is supposed to. There is still plenty to be disappointed about-- its just not a fun car to drive, despite what the mass media wants to spit out, the same media that makes no mention of stuff like the rear headrests that are a real problem. All in all I'm happy with what I got this past weekend, but how many times am I going to be driving 300 miles straight on interstate? Not often-- this car was meant to be an around-town vehicle, because of the optimal fuel mileage I was promised, and it still fails to deliver on that.
As for selling, I'll just have to wait to see what my mom wants to do with it. She told me to pull the ad I had posted for now, but she is still going to think about it. She really like driving around town in the Sonata though, and getting about the same fuel mileage in a car that has no trouble accelerating, and has nice options to boot.
 
Old Jul 24, 2012 | 12:31 AM
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Well then, sell the damn thing.

Promised this, expected that... All you do is complain about it, your mom hates it, what the hell is stopping you (and your mother) from selling it?!?
 
Old Jul 24, 2012 | 01:12 AM
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If you had gotten a Fit with manual transmission you would be getting much better mileage in town and find that the car was a lot quicker and a lot of fun to drive... It took me awhile to get used to mine... The way you feel about your Fit is the same way I felt about my ex wife's 82 Accord which refused to die until my son used it to knock down a telephone poll... It was a terribly uncomfortable,had horrible handling, acceleration and brakes... Good luck with whatever you all decide on.
 
Old Jul 24, 2012 | 02:15 AM
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It's his mommies Fit. He just drives it for free and moans and whines about it. His mom wanted an auto trans.

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If you had gotten a Fit with manual transmission you would be getting much better mileage in town and find that the car was a lot quicker and a lot of fun to drive... It took me awhile to get used to mine... The way you feel about your Fit is the same way I felt about my ex wife's 82 Accord which refused to die until my son used it to knock down a telephone poll... It was a terribly uncomfortable,had horrible handling, acceleration and brakes... Good luck with whatever you all decide on.
 
Old Jul 24, 2012 | 09:28 AM
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It's his mommies Fit. He just drives it for free and moans and whines about it. His mom wanted an auto trans.
Your reading comprehension disorder needs to be checked out. I am driving the car because she was not happy with it and wanted my opinion on it, and after driving it for a bit myself I tended to agree with her observations. That's why I ever came on this board in the first place, simply to see if anyone could help with the issues it has. I have no problem going back to my own car, obviously since we had an ad up for the damn thing. The only reason its not for sale right now is due to the mileage I calculated on the trip last weekend giving my mom pause, which, while good, has nothing to do with the real driving she needs to do with this car (i.e. around town) where fuel mileage suffers.
She can't drive a manual. I can. But I would be hesitant to buy one, considering how much of a disappointment this car has been.
 
Old Jul 24, 2012 | 09:36 AM
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You said you were driving the fit because you wrecked your moms other car. Regardless, I would assume that the high highway millage indicates that there's nothing mechanically wrong with the engine. That said, if you don't like the car, stop driving it. It's really simple. Tell your mom that she can do whatever she wants, but you're done. She's an adult and can make her own choices.
 
Old Jul 24, 2012 | 10:22 AM
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At this point MPG is unlikely to improve to the OPs liking, and it seems to be a major issue. I would personally not keep a car that I hated, which, while it might not actually be the case, is the opinion I am reading here.

On the OPs post that he'd be reluctant to consider a manual Fit, I completely second that - if you didn't like the car definitely don't buy another!

My friend, a longtime Honda fan, made the following comment last night. (He has an 03 Si.) He said, "The Fit is the best thing Honda makes. And I don't really like it." I stopped trying to convince him right there!

There's plenty of cars that get great gas mileage. Some are $$ like a VW diesel or Prius; some are cheap like a Cruze Eco or Dodge Dart. Plenty of other cars to choose from. Tell us what you get
 
Old Jul 24, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by seb9316
Your reading comprehension disorder needs to be checked out. I am driving the car because she was not happy with it and wanted my opinion on it, and after driving it for a bit myself I tended to agree with her observations. That's why I ever came on this board in the first place, simply to see if anyone could help with the issues it has. I have no problem going back to my own car, obviously since we had an ad up for the damn thing. The only reason its not for sale right now is due to the mileage I calculated on the trip last weekend giving my mom pause, which, while good, has nothing to do with the real driving she needs to do with this car (i.e. around town) where fuel mileage suffers.
She can't drive a manual. I can. But I would be hesitant to buy one, considering how much of a disappointment this car has been.
Again, all this is amounting to is: bitch, bitch, moan moan. Again with excuses.

Neither of you like it, sell it.
 
Old Jul 25, 2012 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Goobers
Again, all this is amounting to is: bitch, bitch, moan moan. Again with excuses.

Neither of you like it, sell it.
Excuses for what??? That the car doesn't drive well and that the tradeoff was supposed to be fuel mileage we aren't getting?? We decided to put it back up for sale, so shut up. Unless you want another "great fantastic best car ever made" with only 11,000 miles on it then PM me.

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At this point MPG is unlikely to improve to the OPs liking, and it seems to be a major issue. I would personally not keep a car that I hated, which, while it might not actually be the case, is the opinion I am reading here.

On the OPs post that he'd be reluctant to consider a manual Fit, I completely second that - if you didn't like the car definitely don't buy another!

My friend, a longtime Honda fan, made the following comment last night. (He has an 03 Si.) He said, "The Fit is the best thing Honda makes. And I don't really like it." I stopped trying to convince him right there!

There's plenty of cars that get great gas mileage. Some are $$ like a VW diesel or Prius; some are cheap like a Cruze Eco or Dodge Dart. Plenty of other cars to choose from. Tell us what you get
Your friend sounds like a smart guy, longtime Honda fan due to past ownership with great luck, and now sees the downward trend Honda has taken. They don't make anything impressive anymore, and the fact that the media lauded so much praise over such an underpowered, average mpg car, it makes me wonder how Honda got them in their pocket. At least Consumer Reports wasn't fooled.
 
Old Jul 25, 2012 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by seb9316
They don't make anything impressive anymore, and the fact that the media lauded so much praise over such an underpowered, average mpg car, it makes me wonder how Honda got them in their pocket. At least Consumer Reports wasn't fooled.
Wut?

"The subcompact four-door hatchback Fit offers easy cabin access and very good visibility. It has an amazing amount of interior room and various seat-folding arrangements. While the Fit is not overly powerful, it feels responsive, with a smooth and willing engine, and agile handling. Fuel economy is an excellent 33 mpg overall for the manual and 30 mpg for the automatic. Although the ride is a bit choppy, it is supple enough, but elevated road noise contributes to the din. An electric version will be available soon."

They rate it recommended. They seem to like it a lot. They cite it as the least expensive car to own. Its often on the cover of their top cars issue. I'm not sure what you mean by not being "fooled", unless you mean rating the new civic very poorly, at topic not quite germane to the discussion.
 
Old Jul 25, 2012 | 09:07 AM
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Give me a break.. I would never touch ANYTHING you've "owned."

I would rather have someone buy it off you and then have it crushed.
 
Old Jul 25, 2012 | 09:27 AM
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Hmmm---

https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/1st-...appointed.html

I'm not posting this link because the OP in this thread had problems similar to mine, as much as I'm posting it because of the similar reactionary attitude everyone came back at him with: "Don't compare cars!" "You're trolling!" "Your wife has a lead foot!" "Your terrain!" "The Fit is the most ingenious car ever!! If it's a disappointment it's YOUR fault! ALWAYS!!!!" Sounds incredibly familiar.

I cant believe some of the subjective reasoning here. It's incredible, really. Nice to know I'm not the only victim on here of your blinder tunnel vision.
 

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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 09:31 AM
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Wut?

"The subcompact four-door hatchback Fit offers easy cabin access and very good visibility. It has an amazing amount of interior room and various seat-folding arrangements. While the Fit is not overly powerful, it feels responsive, with a smooth and willing engine, and agile handling. Fuel economy is an excellent 33 mpg overall for the manual and 30 mpg for the automatic. Although the ride is a bit choppy, it is supple enough, but elevated road noise contributes to the din. An electric version will be available soon."

They rate it recommended. They seem to like it a lot. They cite it as the least expensive car to own. Its often on the cover of their top cars issue. I'm not sure what you mean by not being "fooled", unless you mean rating the new civic very poorly, at topic not quite germane to the discussion.
Not germane to the discussion? When the point of my post (go back and read) was that Honda is suffering a downward trend that most media outlets want to ignore? Wow, I'm not sure you left Arkansas of your own free will as much as you got kicked out.
 
Old Jul 25, 2012 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Goobers
Give me a break.. I would never touch ANYTHING you've "owned."

I would rather have someone buy it off you and then have it crushed.
I am struggling with the good ownership points of the Fit. At this point I have seen:
GOOD:
1. Hwy fuel mileage when rarely driving 300 miles straight on an interstate, when that's not what the point of buying this car is
2. Decent cargo space

BAD:
1. Disappointing fuel mileage-- to get anything decent around town (you know, where the ACTUAL POINT of having a car like this comes into play), you have to have a PhD on how to work the gas pedal
2. Auto tranny shifts abruptly, too soon, makes the engine revs high and is annoying
3. Rear headrests are a major problem- riding in the back seat you MUST have them up, but doing so almost completely blocks the driver's rear view
4. Uncomfortable on any trip over a couple of hours (again not the point of the car, but then again the only way to eek out decent fuel mileage)
5. Terrible acceleration, slightly better than my 48 hp 1969 VW bug.

It's not MY fault the Fit is so disappointing, yet you want to drive home some idealistic theory that the car cannot be faulted. All I see out of you is a Honda worshiper who will never be led to think about their products objectively.
 
Old Jul 25, 2012 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by seb9316
Not germane to the discussion? When the point of my post (go back and read) was that Honda is suffering a downward trend that most media outlets want to ignore? Wow, I'm not sure you left Arkansas of your own free will as much as you got kicked out.
What media outlets haven't discussed it? What does the decline in most of Hondas offering have to do with your fit? If people here were telling you to trade to fit for a civic, then the disappointing civic resign would be relevant. But noone here is white knighting Honda in general, just that

1. Based on your descriptions, there is no mechanical defect in your car.
2. The millage numbers you give are in line with the published EPA numbers and the variance is most likely explained by driving style and local conditions.
 
Old Jul 25, 2012 | 09:45 AM
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If the rear headrests are such a problem, then I've got a pretty good explanation of why your fuel economy numbers are lower than expected.
 



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