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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 02:18 PM
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http://www.sonataforums.com/forum/hy...leage-low.html
Its not you. Its us. We have a fear of non-commitment. Umm I hope we can still be friends. bye.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 04:44 PM
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Its not you. Its us. We have a fear of non-commitment. Umm I hope we can still be friends. bye.
Let me begin by stating that the mpg range everyone else posted on that thread, is what we are getting in our Sonata, and I don't have to work the pedal any certain way to get it.
That said, note how every response on that thread states "that's definitely not right," unlike most players around here. No one chimed in with "Oh, it must be YOU." PLUS look at how the OP was able to take his car in and have Hyundai at least look at it at no charge. That was Honda back in the day. Now, not so much.
I'm really wondering what the point of your posting that was.
 

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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 04:53 PM
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Note that person was getting ~25-40% less than the EPA tests. You were getting 28/31 ~ 10% less than the EPA tests. That's a pretty big difference. 10% difference is easily explainable by variations in the drive, different "footedness", etc. Getting 40% less while on the highway (presumably with the cruise set to help even out driver error) is a problem. But you describe getting high 30s while actually on the interstate. There's a pretty big difference.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 04:54 PM
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Oi. Now you are saying you were getting 33mpg over the entire time you owned the car? Which is higher than the EPA estimate ... ?

On premium vs not, lots of people say they get better mileage with it. My personal point of view is, you shouldn't have to do that in order to get decent mpg, since Honda recommends 87. It ought to be close either way. Buy premium if you think the detergents are worth it (I do because I don't buy much gas).
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 05:08 PM
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Oi. Now you are saying you were getting 33mpg over the entire time you owned the car? Which is higher than the EPA estimate ... ?
That would be consistent with him not knowing how to drive since it was originally his mother as the primary driver.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 05:10 PM
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I'm sorry to hear you aren't getting what you expected from the car. Hopefully you can address the issues with the Fit or get a good deal on the replacement car.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve244
no it's not. The thing is accurate within 1mpg +/- of actual, as calculated at the pumps. It's not making an educated guess, it is based on actual fuel metered by the FI over distance traveled. It knows what it's doing (except for the 09s which shipped with bad data tables and read 10-15% high. Software update fixed that).

Why don't you reset it and take it on the highway for a 30 minute cruise and see what it does? Are you scared it might perform better than you want it to?

Resetting simply involves clearing the trip odometer. Select this by pushing the button below the display until this appears, press and hold it until it zeros out. Select the avg mpg display (it'll now show dashes). Then shut-up and drive the bloody thing on the highway for a while.

I think when the dust settles you'll see it does perform to EPA specs and then some. I think your estimate of the amount of "city" driving you do is skewed.
I know how to reset the damn avg mpg readout. I also know that I am recording real world fuel usage every time I refill the tank, and recording mileage since the last fillup, and dividing, and my results aren't anything close to what the average mpg computer on this car says. Sorry but I'll go by my actual calculations before I go by a computer that I didn't have anything to do with programming or knowing EXACTLY where its readouts are coming from.
OK I'll reset it before I leave for Dallas this weekend, and we'll see how it does on the interstate /hwy for a while. In that type of driving, assuming no stop and go traffic backups etc, I expect it to do 32-33 at least. When I stop and refill on the next tank I'll compare, and we'll see. I'll bet you a shiny new nickel it's at least 2mpg over what I calculate. Would you then say there's something wrong with my Fit? Or would you keep believing the car?
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 05:14 PM
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This bullshit thread is almost two months old and has been constantly active, I don't know why this is still being entertained. With all the time that's been spent ITT you could have spoonfed all the noobs 100x over. I've come to three conclusions:

1) There is nothing wrong with OP's car.
2) OP doesn't like the Fit or Honda (anymore), ok, carry on.
3) There isn't enough OG content on FF.net, so people are just posting here because they're bored and unfortunately this is currently the most active thread on the forum.

At least I hope that #3 is the reason for the continued existence of this thread, because I don't think seb9316 from Little Rock AR's opinion of the car is going to make or break it's future sales or existance, why people are wasting their time to sway his opinion is beyond me.

amirite?

youguisebored?
 

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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanderer.
This bullshit thread is almost two months old and has been constantly active, I don't know why this is still being entertained. With all the time that's been spent ITT you could have spoonfed all the noobs 100x over. I've come to three conclusions:

1) There is nothing wrong with OP's car.
2) OP doesn't like the Fit or Honda (anymore), ok, carry on.
3) There isn't enough OG content on FF.net, so people are just posting here because they're bored and unfortunately this is currently the most active thread on the forum.

At least I hope that #3 is the reason for the continued existence of this thread, because I don't think seb9316 from Little Rock AK's opinion of the car is going to make or break it's future sales or existance, why people are wasting their time to sway his opinion is beyond me.

amirite?

youguisebored?
To answer your question...

 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by seb9316
I know how to reset the damn avg mpg readout. I also know that I am recording real world fuel usage every time I refill the tank, and recording mileage since the last fillup, and dividing, and my results aren't anything close to what the average mpg computer on this car says. Sorry but I'll go by my actual calculations before I go by a computer that I didn't have anything to do with programming or knowing EXACTLY where its readouts are coming from.
OK I'll reset it before I leave for Dallas this weekend, and we'll see how it does on the interstate /hwy for a while. In that type of driving, assuming no stop and go traffic backups etc, I expect it to do 32-33 at least. When I stop and refill on the next tank I'll compare, and we'll see. I'll bet you a shiny new nickel it's at least 2mpg over what I calculate. Would you then say there's something wrong with my Fit? Or would you keep believing the car?
Don't post till you get back from your trip.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 05:49 PM
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Oi. Now you are saying you were getting 33mpg over the entire time you owned the car? Which is higher than the EPA estimate ... ?
That's what the CAR'S COMPUTER says, but NOT what I am ACTUALLY GETTING with my calculations. Considering the big difference, I would consider my own calculations to be far more accurate since you know, I am actually recording what it takes to fill the tank back up every time I go to the pump, which is the most accurate way of determining the amount of fuel you have used.
These last couple of posts make me wonder, just how many of you are simply going by the Fits' computer mpg readout and not doing your own calculations??
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanderer.
I don't think seb9316 from Little Rock AK's opinion of the car is going to make or break it's future sales or existance
I don't live in Alaska.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 05:51 PM
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You sure someone isn't siphoning your fuel?
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 05:55 PM
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You sure someone isn't siphoning your fuel?
Cause I live in Arkansas, right?
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 05:56 PM
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How many miles do you get per tank?
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 06:00 PM
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Cause I live in Arkansas, right?
Because the computer is typically pretty accurate. Someone stealing fuel would explain the variance between computer and calculated.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by seb9316
Let me begin by stating that the mpg range everyone else posted on that thread, is what we are getting in our Sonata, and I don't have to work the pedal any certain way to get it.
That said, note how every response on that thread states "that's definitely not right," unlike most players around here. No one chimed in with "Oh, it must be YOU." PLUS look at how the OP was able to take his car in and have Hyundai at least look at it at no charge. That was Honda back in the day. Now, not so much.
I'm really wondering what the point of your posting that was.
my point was that the op witnessed a problem occuring and went online for diagnosis. When others said he should take it in he did. Four days later they said no problems found. Then he started troubleshooting. YOU wont take the first step beyond this forum. I was hoping youd be proactive and atleast change your air filter, perform some regular maintance.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by seb9316
I know how to reset the damn avg mpg readout. I also know that I am recording real world fuel usage every time I refill the tank, and recording mileage since the last fillup, and dividing, and my results aren't anything close to what the average mpg computer on this car says. Sorry but I'll go by my actual calculations before I go by a computer that I didn't have anything to do with programming or knowing EXACTLY where its readouts are coming from.
OK I'll reset it before I leave for Dallas this weekend, and we'll see how it does on the interstate /hwy for a while. In that type of driving, assuming no stop and go traffic backups etc, I expect it to do 32-33 at least. When I stop and refill on the next tank I'll compare, and we'll see. I'll bet you a shiny new nickel it's at least 2mpg over what I calculate. Would you then say there's something wrong with my Fit? Or would you keep believing the car?
Based on your statements so far, I side with the car.

I manually calculated the MPG when I got the car and was annoyed by the inaccuracy. When the TSB for the software update was announced correcting the problem I was in there pretty quick. And I anally checked the mpg against the computer for the next 2 years. After a hundred or so fills where the computer was within 1MPG of manual calculations it got a bit boring.

I suspect the lifetime average for your car is staring you in your face, and your entire thread is a rant over being subjected to a car you consider beneath you. Since your previous ride (03 Impala?) and this one were purchased by your mother, I do think there is something Freudian going on. And it's not with your Fit's fuel consumption.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 06:35 PM
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Why won't you reset the display anyway? You know all the idling brings down the number, right? It takes a lot of 39mpg to counteract a lot of 0 mpg.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 07:14 PM
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Because the computer is typically pretty accurate. Someone stealing fuel would explain the variance between computer and calculated.
I seriously doubt it. I live in a gated community and work on a university campus with regular campus police patrols.
What WOULD explain it, though, is not all the fuel evaporating and some leaking into the charcoal canister, which someone has brought up in this thread before. It would also explain the reason my "check fuel cap" message scrolled across the info center twice, and my maintenance light came on, the code for which read something about evap (don't remember and the auto parts store that checked the code cleared it before I could tell them not to.)
 



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