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You're a baffoon.

 

YOU GOT 28 ON THE LAST TANK. Prior to that you've been complaining about getting 30 or 31.

You can't drive.
Your mom can't drive.

The combination of both of you is killing your MPG.

 

Dude, shit or get off the pot.

You don't like the car. You don't like 5 speed automatic transmissions with lock up torque converters. 30ish mpg is unacceptable to you. Honda is unacceptable to you. I suggest stopping by the Toyota dealer and getting a Prius, which should deal with all those complaints.

 

Why don't you get a different car?

I don't think you have any concept of how many variables are involved with fuel economy.

This is just silly.

 

Hahahaah look at all these excuses by Honda loyalist follower apologists who are so narrow minded that they can't for one second believe that their prcious GOd of a car compnay could have actually misled consumers. Even if they didn't intentionally do it, it still shows Honda's QC has slipped, which is something else none of you want to admit either.
Fact is 28mpg is unacceptable when any logical person would expect 33-34 at LEAST based on the numbers the CAR COMPANY posts. And the real kicker is how it's MY fault for somehow not driving an AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION properly. I am still waiting for an explanation on that one. It's going to shift when it freaking wants to shift-- when the damn computer tells it to. It's not up to me, except to the extent of how I manage the gas pedal to make it hold in gear or not a second longer, and the idea that will magically increase my fuel mileage just to acceptable levels is absurd, especially when i am supposed to be getting those numbers anyway! No one has answered me with why I should have to work SO hard to feather the pedal, make sure it stays in gear shorter or longer for one second depending on the degree of slope, lift off 34/344 of an inch off the gas pedal wen I hit cruise speed, don't open a can of Coke in the car, and everything else you decide to throw into the mix here. Do you want me to take the pinstriping off too? Maybe that will help!

28 MPG IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE IN A CAR THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE GIVING ME 33-35 MPG BASED ON HONDA'S POSTED NUMBERS WHEN MOST OF MY DRIVING IS HIGHWAY DRIVING.
IF 28 IS ACCEPTABLE IN YOUR MINDS, THEN HONDA'S NUMBERS ARE WRONG AND/OR THEY DIDN'T CORRECT THE NUMBERS WITH THE EPA WHEN THEIR AUTO TRANNY CAN;T GET THOSE NUMBERS.

Is that clear enough for all you idiots? All you blind cult crawling loyalist apologist minions? WHich is it? Is the auto tranny an inferior tranny which completely contradicts the numbers Honda posted? Hey Mike, you just called Honda a bunch of liars. Is it the way I drive the car? Oh wait, its a freaking AUOTMATIC TRANSMISSION with a computer that tells it to shift instead of me---yet somehow it's my fault!
A couple of people, ONLY a couple, have made reasonable contributions to this thread. The rest of you can keep crying tears of joy that you have a car with an "H" badge on the front of it, go home tonight and put on your Fit pj's brush your teeth with your Honda tire gauge toothbrushes and crawl into your NSX toy beds. AS for those of us who live in the real world, we acknowledge that Honda has slipped in QC, innovation, and customer intuition over the past several years, and my disappointing Fit is proof positive of it. Sleep well tonight chumps knowing that you support a car compnay that hasn't done much right in a long while.

 

You know modern ECU's tweak shift points to how one drives right?

With two idiots behind one wheel the ECU never knows what to do.

And ONCE AGAIN,

IF YOU DISLIKE THE CAR SO MUCH, GET A DIFFERENT ONE. Have fun with 28 mpg in your 40 mpg Hyundai.

 

I do love the idea that because it's an automatic, it is therefor impossible to drive it uneconomically.

 

Hyundai didn't blatantly get the numbers wrong like Honda did. The complaint against Hyundai is that their ads say "40 mpg Elantra" when the 40 is just their highway rating, and morons who don't pay attention are believing that it is 40 all the time. The 40 mpg is accurate for their highway mileage. The 35 mpg highway rating for the Fit is so far off from what I am getting, it is pathetic. Again, Hyundai didn't lie about their numbers like Honda did.

 

You still haven't answered my question.

 

You haven't answered the question of why you haven't sold the fit to get a better car.

 

So you admit there are better cars? That my Fit is an inferior car? That it is not doing what it is supposed to be doing?

 

Sure there are better cars. The Fit is an econobox; inexpensive to buy and run. A Prius is clearly a better car on fuel economy measurement. An M3 is going to preform much better at the track. A pickup is going to be much better at hauling huge loads. The Fit isn't the be all and end all of cars. Since your complaints in this thread revolve around the 5 AT with locking TC and fuel economy, and not issues like purchase price or maintence the Prius is clearly the right car for you.

 

jesus christ i came here to post this.

 

That's not what I said. I said, a) I shouldn't have to work so hard to feather the pedal, cock my head a certain way, yadda yadda to get the fuel mileage Honda promised me, or within a reasonable proximity, which I am not, AND b) what real difference do you think depressing the gas pedal a different way, under certain circumstances, during a certain time of day, uphill or downhill, etc is going to make that will magically give me the 36-38 mpg everyone else on here is boasting? If I had COMPLETE control over when the car shifts, exactly how i rev each gear, etc I MIGHT agree with you. But even with some differences in my driving habits which in an automatic can't be any more than the way you work the pedal, a)the computer STILL ultimately decides when the car shifts, and b) why should I have to do that to ONLY APPROACH what Honda posted as their EPA estimates? No one has answered that yet, and you continue to avoid that issue. I find it hilarious that you are now telling me I have to work like night and day driving this car to APPROACH the fuel mileage estimates I am supposed to be getting. Does every car require that? Oh, that's right--no they don't.
Bottom line: I should be able to drive this car NORMALLY, which is what I do, and get reasonable mpg, which I am not. If I start doing calculations, formulas, inching off or back on the pedal here and there, make sure I always have a tailwind, etc it better be so that I can get ABOVE the stated estimates, NOT JUST BARELY APPROACH THEM.
But, keep saying the same thing over and over to convince yourself you didn't buy a disappointment of a car, and that other companies aren't doing the same mileage with much better powertrains. Keep trying to convince yourself it's me that somehow is driving this car mostly highway SO badly that I barely am getting the city estimate. Keep trying to convince yourself it's SO possible to work the pedal in an auto tranny that I will magically see 5 mpg improvement. Keep telling yourself that in this day and age go ahead and drive 50 on the interstate and you won't get killed. Because this is what you are doing, and it is the very definition of a Honda apologist, who won't admit to their QC having gone downhill. I also love the way you all contradict you beloved car company by saying the manual is so much better when Honda posts numbers that show the opposite to be true, yet can't see that by doing so you are insulting the very car company you cherish. You all are pathetic and NONE of this problem is MY fault.

 

EPA mpg tests are very specific as to how they are done. The mt can do worse in those specific circumstances and still be better in others. There's no contradiction by Honda there.

Why haven't you bothered to get a better car by now? you obviously don't like the fit; it's not the everycar

 

(stupid smart phone) by any means. Go give a golf tdi a try, it'll have much better highway miles. You have lots of options. Only a fool would just continue to whine about how much he hates the situation without working to change it.

 

Seb you do realize you are getting the epa(31) on average. You consistantly mention expecting 35+ .... and that's hondas fault? Bet you cant believe how many honda enthusiasts are on this honda fit specific forum. Minus trolling what fills your day??

 

Actually, the Fit is a lie.

An excuse from you every minute, yet nothing productive about why I am not getting the 32-33mpg I should be, except somehow I am driving a computer-controlled shifting car incorrectly.

 

What math are you using to determine I am getting 31?

29+30+31+28/4 = 31??

Really??

 

I still want to fix it. You have given me no reasonable explanation on how to do so. Your "working the pedal" theory is ridiculous. The real fix is what HONDA needs to do, that they won't. Thus, my "whining" as you put it. It's ridiculous that I should have to lose money selling a car whose problems are neither mine or my mom's fault but a derivative of a car company that doesn't care anymore about integrity or willing to work with its customers (a huge Honda high point in the past) yet still has minions walking the planet defending, apologizing, and lighting themselves on fire for them no matter what. If you really want to help, try to figure out the fucking problem with my car instead of ridiculously blaming it all on me. And YES THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THIS CAR.