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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 10:02 PM
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i do 26-27 mpg but you don't see me like this...


they see me do only 26-27 mpg... they see it like this...


but this thread make me do this...
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 04:09 AM
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EPA has improved its methods for estimating fuel economy, but your mileage will still vary.

EPA tests are designed to reflect "typical" driving conditions and driver behavior, but several factors can affect MPG significantly:

How & Where You Drive
Vehicle Condition & Maintenance
Fuel Variations
Vehicle Variations
Engine Break-In

Therefore, the EPA ratings are a useful tool for comparing the fuel economies of different vehicles but may not accurately predict the average MPG you will get.
That's from fueleconomy.gov
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 09:19 AM
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EPA has improved its methods for estimating fuel economy, but your mileage will still vary.

EPA tests are designed to reflect "typical" driving conditions and driver behavior, but several factors can affect MPG significantly:

How & Where You Drive
Vehicle Condition & Maintenance
Fuel Variations
Vehicle Variations
Engine Break-In

Therefore, the EPA ratings are a useful tool for comparing the fuel economies of different vehicles but may not accurately predict the average MPG you will get.
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That's from fueleconomy.gov
That last sentence you quoted from that website might be the dumbest thing I have ever seen. If they are a "useful tool for comparing vehicles" but they "may not accurately predict the fuel mileage" then what the hell is the point. That's the government's way of saying "we really don't know anything about the actual fuel economy your car will get, but we're going to pretend like we do." The car companies can still post real world numbers if they want, but since EPA estimates are almost always higher than real world estimates, why bother?
AS I have said many times over, maybe it's just MY Fit and the whole rest of the world is constantly getting 35 mpg or better. Maybe not, which means the numbers aren't accurate. Either way it sucks.
But hey, since everyone on here says it's just me, there is a 2011 Honda Fit base auto tranny for sale right now, for $15,500 in excellent condition. 10,550 miles. Polished metal metallic exterior. Even has the armrest installed, tinted windows, and pinstriping. Absolutely NOTHING wrong with it, drives excellent, and gets outstanding fuel economy. Rated the highest car in its class. You won't be disappointed!
 

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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 09:23 AM
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You live in Arkansas; you've seen much dumber things daily.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 09:33 AM
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You live in Arkansas; you've seen much dumber things daily.
Interested in an excellent condition 2011 Fit? Superb fuel economy, incredible cargo room, great around town car.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 09:37 AM
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If I were buying a new car today, i would be looking at a Prius V or 3 series wagon.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by malraux
If I were buying a new car today, i would be looking at a Prius V or 3 series wagon.
What in the world for? The Fit gets stellar gas mileage, has infinite cargo space, has that superb Honda reliability, and is constantly rated top of its class by all the automotive media outlets. You can't do better
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by seb9316
What in the world for? The Fit gets stellar gas mileage, has infinite cargo space, has that superb Honda reliability, and is constantly rated top of its class by all the automotive media outlets. You can't do better
Top of class yes, but I'd prefer and can afford a better class of car.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 10:30 AM
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Top of class yes, but I'd prefer and can afford a better class of car.
So, you're on here because you're lonely?
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 11:43 AM
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It seems like your beef is really with the EPA more so than Honda. It may be dumb or misleading to consumer but that's the situation we are in, wether its a toyota, Cadillac, ford, etc. The fit definitely does not have best fuel economy in its class, not even that close to the EPA leaders.

I bought this car knowing it was not the most powerful in its class, that fuel economy was okay. But things like the magic seat and utility sealed the deal for me.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by chris6801
The fit definitely does not have best fuel economy in its class, not even that close to the EPA leaders.
Yet when Car and Driver put it up against those with the 40 highway ratings they got the best combined mileage out of the Fit.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 12:12 PM
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Yet when Car and Driver put it up against those with the 40 highway ratings they got the best combined mileage out of the Fit.
I feel like you can beat the EPA ratings pretty easily with the MT version even though it has a lower rating. All the more reason to take these ratings with a big grain of salt.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 12:13 PM
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seb9316,

A completely random question: what octane gas do you run?
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by seb9316
2011 Honda Fit base auto tranny for sale right now, for $15,500 in excellent condition.

How much do you have into the Fit dollar wise? How much loss will the sale represent? For that dollar loss, how many gallons of fuel could you buy?

Not to mention buying a replacement car and the dollars involved there in sales tax alone - let alone purchase price.

You could buy a thousand gallons of fuel for the loss you are about to take on between the sale and new car purchase.

Penny wise, pound foolish.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 12:52 PM
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seb9316,

A completely random question: what octane gas do you run?
Typically, 87 octane.
However on the tank of gas before this one, I filled up with 91.
And got 28.4 mpg. It's back in this thread somewhere.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by AC7880
How much do you have into the Fit dollar wise? How much loss will the sale represent? For that dollar loss, how many gallons of fuel could you buy?

Not to mention buying a replacement car and the dollars involved there in sales tax alone - let alone purchase price.

You could buy a thousand gallons of fuel for the loss you are about to take on between the sale and new car purchase.

Penny wise, pound foolish.
Not when we only paid 16,150 for the car. We'll take a small hit, barely worth mentioning, and move on.
Plus, there's the principle.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by seb9316
Typically, 87 octane.
However on the tank of gas before this one, I filled up with 91.
And got 28.4 mpg. It's back in this thread somewhere.
Some people get better mpg and performance with 91 but this doesn't seem to happen consistently.

If you do keep the car a bit longer you might see an increase in mpg soon as I've heard from others that mpg has increased around 10k mileage mark, which you are at.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by chris6801
It seems like your beef is really with the EPA more so than Honda. It may be dumb or misleading to consumer but that's the situation we are in, wether its a toyota, Cadillac, ford, etc. The fit definitely does not have best fuel economy in its class, not even that close to the EPA leaders.

I bought this car knowing it was not the most powerful in its class, that fuel economy was okay. But things like the magic seat and utility sealed the deal for me.
I understand the Fit doesn't have the best fuel economy in its class. I was however expecting to get mid to upper range of what their published numbers were based on the fact that I am doing mostly interstate driving (and yes, based on the so many other reviews I read of others exceeding the posted mileage.) 32-33 average would have been fine with me. When I am constantly told my mileage will increase as the engine breaks in yet I have experienced drops from 33 (the day we bought it, when I calculated mileage on the way home) to 31 to 29 to 28 in the last few months, and am now constantly barely clearing the low end, and reading about all these other folks who are getting at least 32-33 and apparently in lots of cases even better, time to move on.
Now I know some folks on here will say "well its grown hotter and so your mileage decreased with the way you use the air conditioning." That may be true. But that's where my beef with what Honda said comes into play. From my POV it's like they knew that during the summer in a hot climate, the best you are going to do on this car is 28, and ran with that number for their lowest EPA city number, knowing the "mileage may vary" will cover them, and then just threw out some random top number I will never hit in my life with this car. If it's not false advertising then it is at least misleading and not what I expect from a car company that I owned some very good cars from in the past, which is more disappointing to me than anything else. Its another sign to me that they have lost their way.
 

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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 01:29 PM
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And here's something else that bugs me-- we have never, not once, reset the "average mpg" meter in this car, which means what I am reading right now is a calculated average of the mileage we have gotten since we bought the car. It reads 33.4 mpg. That would mean, considering what I have calculated the mileage to be over the last few months since I have been keeping track, this computer is saying we must have gotten 35-36 the first couple of months we owned it. Total BS.
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 02:09 PM
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And here's something else that bugs me-- we have never, not once, reset the "average mpg" meter in this car, which means what I am reading right now is a calculated average of the mileage we have gotten since we bought the car. It reads 33.4 mpg. That would mean, considering what I have calculated the mileage to be over the last few months since I have been keeping track, this computer is saying we must have gotten 35-36 the first couple of months we owned it. Total BS.
no it's not. The thing is accurate within 1mpg +/- of actual, as calculated at the pumps. It's not making an educated guess, it is based on actual fuel metered by the FI over distance traveled. It knows what it's doing (except for the 09s which shipped with bad data tables and read 10-15% high. Software update fixed that).

Why don't you reset it and take it on the highway for a 30 minute cruise and see what it does? Are you scared it might perform better than you want it to?

Resetting simply involves clearing the trip odometer. Select this by pushing the button below the display until this appears, press and hold it until it zeros out. Select the avg mpg display (it'll now show dashes). Then shut-up and drive the bloody thing on the highway for a while.

I think when the dust settles you'll see it does perform to EPA specs and then some. I think your estimate of the amount of "city" driving you do is skewed.
 



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