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Old 04-14-2014, 08:30 PM
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Very disappointed in 2015 mpg ratings.

Almost bought a new 2010 Fit when they first came out, ordered a red sport. When it came in and I seen the highway mpg rating of 33 I got my deposit back and kept driving my Chevy HHR. To this day I am getting 31-34 mpg on it. Now at 104,000 miles I thought the all new Fit will be the one I buy, been waiting and waiting for it and now to see 39 mpg highway is very disappointing. Isn't the Mazda 3 getting 41 highway? I can hypermileage my HHR and get 37.
Now I don't know what to get, a Prius, Mazda 3 both bigger with better mpg then a Fit but more money,have to go used on both.
Give me your thoughts. Jim
 
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:52 PM
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I have a 13 Fit Base with 5 MT. When I first bought it, didn't think I'd get more than what EPA said. Was astonished to get 40 MPG several times. Honda rates these cars low, and I think it's cuz they don't want to go thru what Hyundai did; ie: having to re-state MPG cuz the cars weren't getting what Hyundai advertised. I think the 2015 Fit will get mid 40's on hiway if you drive it around 65 MPH. I think one tester already got 44 MPG just driving around San Diego. Take the '15 for a test drive and see what you think.
 
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:52 PM
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I suggest you test drive all the cars you're looking at to compare which best suits your needs. Most people here in this forum will tell you as i've read countless times that mpg rating is just a guideline. It all depends on your driving habits. As i myself have been able to achieve 44mpg highway driving and 33-35 city driving. My wife on the other hand averages 28-30 city driving and 31-33 highway driving as she has heavy foot. I went for the '13 fit sport because of a too good deal to pass, cavernous storage capacity and as hondas are very reliable dd. Inexpensive to maintain and frugal on gas. Hope this helps. Good luck with your purchase.

P.S. As you can see OP my signature has the 44.3mpg displayed.
 

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Old 04-14-2014, 08:54 PM
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The manual versions are rated at 37 mpg highway. I agree this is a disappointing estimate. The gen 7 1.8 tsi golf will probably come close to this with much more torque,2000 rpm -at 70 mph. I have been a Honda guy since early 80s. But the new vw stuff is looking good. Maybe I will hold out for a turbo 1.0 liter next gen civic ... I want a car that doesn't have to rev so hard on the freeway and gets over 40 mpg with a manual gearbox. ? Jump ship for the new golf. Or wait for turbo honda. We'll see...
 
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Old 04-14-2014, 09:27 PM
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Hondas are ALWAYS underrated, at least manual ones.

I averaged 38 all around from a car rated for 33 highway, and I'm not some mega hypermiler.

Maybe you guys should stop jumping the shark and let the first few owners take the plunge for you.
 
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Old 04-14-2014, 10:45 PM
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It is very interesting just how ill informed most consumers are when it comes to fuel economy. As all of us Fit owners know, averaging more than the EPA rating is the norm for Honda owners and not even achieving EPA numbers is the norm for all Fords, Hyundais, Chryslers and most GM products.

Here we have someone who is very happy with getting 31 mpg HWY when us Fit owners achieve a fleet average 34-35 mpg and more combined, and know very well that 40+MPG HWY is only a matter of keeping your speed below 70 MPH, (no pulse and glide required!)

I suppose most people have no idea that the EPA does not test cars but rather gives the test criteria to the manufactures and then takes their word for whatever they wish to rate their cars for. Honda obviously loses sales as a result of their conservative ratings. Yet, it was Honda who got sued by someone who was unhappy with the 40MPG she was getting from her civic hybrid. go figure.

To the OP, a Mazda 3 has less interior and cargo room than a fit and will not achieve the fit's real world fuel economy. The Prius also has less cargo capacity will cost much more to purchase and is so boaring to drive, but if fuel economy is all you care about, the Prius is, and forever will be, the reining champ.
 

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I think mileage depends on your style of driving. My SO drives w/ a lead foot, and makes jerky movements often. When he drives the mileage is close to the EPA numbers. I drive more carefully, although using no hypermiling methods. I can get much better results than EPA numbers. I drive cross country 2-4 times a year and it's easy to get beyond 40 mpg on the highways.
 
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Going from 15 to 20 mpg results in a lot more savings than going from 35 to 40 mpg... figure what you'd spend on fuel and go from there.
 
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Old 04-15-2014, 12:39 AM
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Number one thing you should always avoid is assuming what you read is comepletely true (responding to first post)

ALL my previous hondas have gotten at least 4-5 mpg better then sticker.


Its the care, the driving style, and the environment that effect your mileage.

If you ignore how you drive, you can even get 10-15mpg in a honda
 
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Old 04-15-2014, 12:41 AM
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To the OP: I'd suggest doing a bit of math and seeing how much (or how little) of a difference in cost the comparatively small differences in milage you're talking about will make per year. At, say, 15,000 miles per year, a car that averages 40 mpg for you will use 375 gallons of gas, while one that averages 37 mpg will use 405 gallons of gas; that's a little over $100 worth of gas per year. While $100 or so is certainly not chump change, it's rather small when compared to the differences in purchase prices between cars, and quite possibly smaller than other differences in operating expenses (varying insurance costs, oddball maintenance items, more expensive tires, and so forth) that might exist one way or the other.

I've averaged about 39 mpg overall over about 40K miles so far on my 2012 Fit (manual transmission), without using any special economical driving techniques beyond obeying the speed limits. Needless to say, I don't generally have to do much city or urban driving.
 
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Old 04-15-2014, 12:50 AM
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Here is a gas mileage calculator . Gas Mileage Calculator - MPGomatic.com . Great site too .
 
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Maybe you try out the '14 Mitsubishi Mirage . Gets well over 40 m.p.g. with C.V.T. and 5 speed manual . Test drove a few and not so bad for a car that can be purchased for $11,999 with a 5 speed manual . That would be the DE . There's a $1,000 factory rebate and some dealers give an additional $1,000 off . Go to these for info , Home - Mitsubishi Mirage / Space Star Forum - MirageForum.com and 2014 Mitsubishi Mirage Subcompact | Mitsubishi Motors .
 

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Old 04-15-2014, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Odie
Maybe you try out the '14 Mitsubishi Mirage . Gets well over 40 m.p.g. with C.V.T. and 5 speed manual . Test drove a few and not so bad for a car that can be purchased for $11,999 with a 5 speed manual . That would be the DE . There's a $1,000 factory rebate and some dealers give an additional $1,000 off . Go to these for info , Home - Mitsubishi Mirage / Space Star Forum - MirageForum.com and 2014 Mitsubishi Mirage Subcompact | Mitsubishi Motors .
The Mirage looks about as bad as a 2001 Kia Rio.

I wouldn't pay 3k for one.
 
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Old 04-15-2014, 01:11 AM
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Here's a long term of a MIRAGE ES with the C.V.T.. 2014 Mitsubishi Mirage long-term test: Month 1 . Supposedly there's more on the way ?
 
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Old 04-15-2014, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mike410b
The Mirage looks about as bad as a 2001 Kia Rio.

I wouldn't pay 3k for one.
For each their own .
 
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Old 04-15-2014, 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by TCroly
It is very interesting just how ill informed most consumers are when it comes to fuel economy. As all of us Fit owners know, averaging more than the EPA rating is the norm for Honda owners and not even achieving EPA numbers is the norm for all Fords, Hyundais, Chryslers and most GM products.
Couldn't say it better!
I average 38-40 mpg mostly hwy.
 
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Old 04-15-2014, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mike410b
The Mirage looks about as bad as a 2001 Kia Rio.

I wouldn't pay 3k for one.
I like the mirage. If I was poor, I would seriously consider it.
It's just the fit is better all around. But Mirage makes a compelling case, especially as an alternative to a bus.
 
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Old 04-15-2014, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by john21031
I like the mirage. If I was poor, I would seriously consider it.
It's just the fit is better all around. But Mirage makes a compelling case, especially as an alternative to a bus.
If you were poor you'd consider buying a 12k car that will be worth 5k before its two years old?

Used Fit/Yaris/Versa/etc. > New Mirage

I guess if you enjoyed being poor, it'd be a good way to perpetuate it
 
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Old 04-15-2014, 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DrewE
To the OP: I'd suggest doing a bit of math and seeing how much (or how little) of a difference in cost the comparatively small differences in milage you're talking about will make per year. At, say, 15,000 miles per year, a car that averages 40 mpg for you will use 375 gallons of gas, while one that averages 37 mpg will use 405 gallons of gas; that's a little over $100 worth of gas per year.
I couldn't agree more, sometimes people get blinded in a quest for better fuel economy and the payoff once you have exceeded about 35MPG is very small

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Here is a gas mileage calculator . Gas Mileage Calculator - MPGomatic.com . Great site too .
Great site for proving the point made above. Compare 38MPG to 42 MPG over 10,000 miles at $4.00/gallon, $100 savings. The same difference in cost is found by going from 20MPG to 21MPG over the same 10,000 miles.

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Going from 15 to 20 mpg results in a lot more savings than going from 35 to 40 mpg... figure what you'd spend on fuel and go from there.
It really is a point of diminishing returns. Sure 40MPG is better than 35MPG, but it really isn't that much better in the big picture.

But of all the gas powered non-hybrid cars, EPA HWY rated at 40MPG or more, I think the Fit will generally get better real world fuel economy than any of them. As proven by those, like me, who report their fuel economy on www.fuelly.com
 
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:39 AM
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It comes down to buying the car you enjoy,....I get 26mpg on my fit in city driving 10 stops per day usually.

Naturally it upsets me when I get better numbers when I rent mid-size sedans and compacts like the focus and elantra and my driving style is the same across cars.
I even borrowed a Rogue and got 23 mpg and I was hard on the CVT to get a feel for what they're like.

But just when I'm thinking of selling my fit on CL, I sit back in it, realize it's paid off and a great little car, and it gets postponed.
 


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