Anyone else get a loose engine splash shield under their car?
#241
12-20-2017, 05:45 AM
It happened to me a while back.
Now the dealer changed it's policy and replaces all teh clamps and screws new on each oil change for FIT.
I pull over a few blocks away after the change and always check the work.
It's always a good policy to check the work after a dealer because there are so many techs coming and going you never know.
I also use a Sharpee to mark the filter to make sure its changed.
One time on FIT and years ago on a Nissan (at pep boys) they did not change it and I called them on it. You never know--mark your filter when the engine is cold before the change.
At the Honda Dealer they explained to me, after reviewing a video of the service bay and the tech working on my car, that he just plain forgot because he was as they told me "chasing hours," car dealer jargon. The techs need to work fast to get their hours in to make the most commission for work that day. The Dealer compensated me with $300.00 credit for future work for the mistake but cautioned that it can happen again because that is how techs are compensated and they get pulled in different directions.
Now the dealer changed it's policy and replaces all teh clamps and screws new on each oil change for FIT.
I pull over a few blocks away after the change and always check the work.
It's always a good policy to check the work after a dealer because there are so many techs coming and going you never know.
I also use a Sharpee to mark the filter to make sure its changed.
One time on FIT and years ago on a Nissan (at pep boys) they did not change it and I called them on it. You never know--mark your filter when the engine is cold before the change.
At the Honda Dealer they explained to me, after reviewing a video of the service bay and the tech working on my car, that he just plain forgot because he was as they told me "chasing hours," car dealer jargon. The techs need to work fast to get their hours in to make the most commission for work that day. The Dealer compensated me with $300.00 credit for future work for the mistake but cautioned that it can happen again because that is how techs are compensated and they get pulled in different directions.
A few years ago, a dealer messed up a timing belt replacement and gave me a free oil change as compensation. Two days later, the oil drain plug fell out and ruined the engine. I got a rebuilt engine. : )
#242
12-22-2017, 12:35 AM
I would love to go to a better dealer for service, but in the Los Angeles area, they are all mediocre. It's very expensive to live in this area and the money they pay their techs does not support any lifestyle here so techs come to the dealer, get experience and move on eventually. Same issue with my road bicycle--the experienced techs at the bike shops can't afford to stay, they keep moving on to other occupations that pay more or they move to cheaper States or communities and remain as techs. Really same in most businesses here. Hard to find quality service when you don't make a position a well paid career position where someone can afford the housing.
#244
12-23-2017, 12:04 PM
I would bet that Aisin makes all their CVT boxes, including Honda's. Stands to reason their fluids would be similar, but there is still specs by the purchasing company that adjust the end product.
You can tell a lot if you request the MSDS on any fluid you buy, they have to give it to you by law.
You can tell a lot if you request the MSDS on any fluid you buy, they have to give it to you by law.
#245
12-24-2017, 05:59 AM
If there's a long downhill, I shift into neutral a coast. My mileage has dropped dramatically since the cold weather arrived. Driving short distances gives me mileage in the mid 30s. Driving into town in warm weather will give me about 53 mpg, but coming home would be in the mid 40s - lots of hills here.
#246
12-25-2017, 12:46 AM
I live in the country, so I seldom stop at traffic lights or get stuck in traffic. There are three lights between my house and town. Of course, once I get into town it's all lights and traffic. I avoid Interstate driving because 65 - 75 MPH kills mileage, and I don't like paying tolls. Last year, I paid $230 to drive on the NY Thruway.
If there's a long downhill, I shift into neutral a coast. My mileage has dropped dramatically since the cold weather arrived. Driving short distances gives me mileage in the mid 30s. Driving into town in warm weather will give me about 53 mpg, but coming home would be in the mid 40s - lots of hills here.
If there's a long downhill, I shift into neutral a coast. My mileage has dropped dramatically since the cold weather arrived. Driving short distances gives me mileage in the mid 30s. Driving into town in warm weather will give me about 53 mpg, but coming home would be in the mid 40s - lots of hills here.
My driving is a lot of stop and go, tons of traffics lights, stop signs, heavily congested roadways. Even on the highway--lots of breaking.
I did recently take a drive to Tucson from Los Angeles and back 95% highways using Economy mode at times and had to use the Air Conditioner for parts of it in the desert. I averaged 38 to 41 MPG. I was happy with that.
The speed limit in Arizona is 75 and traffic pushed 90 in many parts especially on I-10 from the CA border East. I dipped up to 90+ a few times keeping up. I was glad to see that the FIT was very comfortable at that speed. But for most of the ride I just put the Cruise on 80 in AZ to keep the Fuzz off my tail.
As a side note, I posted elsewhere here that when the FIT had 25K miles last spring, I changed the Firestone FR 740's out for BF Goodrich Z rated Comp All Season. Improved my ride dramatically. They are much cheaper than the Firestone's too and fit without any modifications.
#247
02-01-2018, 04:48 PM
Well yesterday my son joined the loose engine splash shield club. A week ago he took his 2015 Fit EX into the local highly regarded Honda dealer for an engine & CVT oil change in preparation for a cross country drive. He hit the road yesterday.
He gets about 125 miles from here before the !@#$%* shield comes loose. He calls me & we do a bit of trouble shooting. I called the dealer who screwed up & talked to a tech. He said as long as it wasn't dragging on the ground that is was safe to continue motoring. They told me to send them a bill for the repair & they would refund any money paid. The shield is not dragging on the ground just flapping at the rear as the car gets up about 70ish mph. He soldiers on until his night time layover.
This morning he hits a Honda dealer west of Chicago & they fix those darned farkin missing widgets with new ones. No cost due to his Honda extended warranty.
Happy ending. But hey Honda why such a stupid design??
He gets about 125 miles from here before the !@#$%* shield comes loose. He calls me & we do a bit of trouble shooting. I called the dealer who screwed up & talked to a tech. He said as long as it wasn't dragging on the ground that is was safe to continue motoring. They told me to send them a bill for the repair & they would refund any money paid. The shield is not dragging on the ground just flapping at the rear as the car gets up about 70ish mph. He soldiers on until his night time layover.
This morning he hits a Honda dealer west of Chicago & they fix those darned farkin missing widgets with new ones. No cost due to his Honda extended warranty.
Happy ending. But hey Honda why such a stupid design??
#250
02-02-2018, 06:44 AM
If Honda went to the trouble and expense of designing it and manufacturing it, there must be a good reason.
#251
02-02-2018, 07:07 AM
Not sure if it rises to the level of Ansel Adams, but hey art is subjective.
Rather than blaming the splash shield, blame the Honda dealership/technician doing the work. The only time I've had an issue was when I let the dealership do their first free oil change. Since I've done the oil changes myself and haven't had any problems.
Rather than blaming the splash shield, blame the Honda dealership/technician doing the work. The only time I've had an issue was when I let the dealership do their first free oil change. Since I've done the oil changes myself and haven't had any problems.
#252
02-02-2018, 07:47 AM
Not sure if it rises to the level of Ansel Adams, but hey art is subjective.
Rather than blaming the splash shield, blame the Honda dealership/technician doing the work. The only time I've had an issue was when I let the dealership do their first free oil change. Since I've done the oil changes myself and haven't had any problems.
Rather than blaming the splash shield, blame the Honda dealership/technician doing the work. The only time I've had an issue was when I let the dealership do their first free oil change. Since I've done the oil changes myself and haven't had any problems.
#253
02-02-2018, 08:55 AM
When they did the rusty door handle recall, they left grease all over the doors and they also scratched up the door area. I didn't notice the scratches, bud did have them take the car back and clean up the grease. I went back and had them fix the scratches at a body shop after I noticed that night.
#254
02-02-2018, 09:50 AM
Agreed. Like I said, they didn't put my splashshield on correctly after the oil change and I felt it flapping.
When they did the rusty door handle recall, they left grease all over the doors and they also scratched up the door area. I didn't notice the scratches, bud did have them take the car back and clean up the grease. I went back and had them fix the scratches at a body shop after I noticed that night.
When they did the rusty door handle recall, they left grease all over the doors and they also scratched up the door area. I didn't notice the scratches, bud did have them take the car back and clean up the grease. I went back and had them fix the scratches at a body shop after I noticed that night.
#255
02-02-2018, 11:02 AM
Yes it is the tech's fault for not attaching that darned try correctly. But Honda also deserves credit for such a poor design. Why did they do it? Some computer told them they could save 10 cents per car. They now build cars as cheap as they can to maximize profits.
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#256
02-02-2018, 11:11 AM
Not sure if it's that poor of a design. I've got 53k miles on mine and the only time it had the issue was when the dealership did the oil change. You would think it'd fall off with a non ASE certified non dealership trained puke doing his own oil changes 
#257
02-02-2018, 12:24 PM
#258
02-09-2018, 01:49 PM
Poor kitty.
#259
02-09-2018, 02:15 PM
My DIY hasn't lost a shield, either, but removing and replacing the two plastic things in the rear is a nuisance. Now I just use the plastic push plugs - the bumper attachment plugs.
#260
02-09-2018, 10:19 PM
I can't believe a 20min (MAX) oil change can take over an hour because of that stupid shield!!