Fit DIY: Repair & Maintenance Threads discussing repairs and maintenance you can do yourself

Waxing Your New FIT, questions,techniques,products

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 30, 2006 | 04:25 PM
  #121  
Mr SEntra's Avatar
Member
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 79
From: San Diego, CA
I have already clayed quite a bit of the car, used the 3 step Meguiar's:

1. Paint Cleaner
2. Polish
3. NXT Tech Wax

Of course, I washed the car, using a two bucket system with NXT wash, dryed with an Absorber/Water Blade. My Fit is golden, seriously. I get comments all the time about how nice the Vivid Blue Pearl really looks.
 
Old Aug 30, 2006 | 05:11 PM
  #122  
743power's Avatar
Member
5 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 214
From: United States
Originally Posted by LB3DR
it took me some good hard scrubbing to get it off... it was good it did not stay on there longer... if it did I don't know if I could take it off without damaging the paint.
yikes! I am a car detailer and I frequently have to try and fix customer's carelessness when they try to remove blemishes or contaminants themselves. Simple isopropyl alcohol 70% or commercially available tree sap removers will disolve the sap without harming the paint. Be careful with the alcohol, if you "rub" the spot with it, it will easily leave scratches in the clear coat.

There are alot of great waxes available today to fit any price range. One that I love is p21s/s100. It is a white paste wax that is so easy to use and if it is applied following a proper preparation (good wash, clay, polish, etc) it will give the paint a wonderful deep, glossy shine. It is actually one of the longer lasting waxes that I use. You can get the s100 which is the rebadged p21s for the motorcycle market at any harley dealer for like $16 a tub, or the p21s is available online for $30 or so.

To the guy above who said he doesnt like "rub on waxes," is there any reasoning behind that? The spray on "wax" you get at the car wash will be gone alot sooner that you think and even if it was long lasting, it would be applied to a car with a paint surface that wasn't properly prepared for the wax.
 
Old Aug 30, 2006 | 05:15 PM
  #123  
titefit's Avatar
Member
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 132
From: chicago,illinois
best wax !!!

I've tried them all, Meguiars Gold out shines them all. I only use Megiuars (tire shine, interior cleaner ) was recommended by my Honda dealers, service mgr. I thought all waxes were the same. You gotta try this stuff !!!
 
Old Aug 31, 2006 | 08:40 PM
  #124  
743power's Avatar
Member
5 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 214
From: United States
gold class wax is decent for consumer products, but there are many products on the market that are easier to work with, glossier, and longer lasting.
 
Old Sep 1, 2006 | 05:28 AM
  #125  
29FSE's Avatar
New Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 13
From: Burnaby BC, Canada
Originally Posted by OrangeBlossom
A few weeks after you get your new Fit you can consider waxing it. For the last 50 years, on twenty brand new cars, I have always used a paste wax. I wax all of my cars twice a year and wash them with just plain water as needed. For my Fit, for the first time, I used a liquid wax. I used the brand recommended in Consumer Reports (they also recommend using a liquid over the paste waxes). That brand is Black Magic Wet Shine Liquid Wax. WOW! What a shine. Even after three trips though the rain over the last two weeks the shine is spectacular. Am anxious to see how well the water beads up after three or four months of D.C.'s hot Summer.
Originally Posted by ifitfitz
concluding remark from the CR report:

". . . regardless of how hard you work, how much you spend, or what longevity claims manufacturers make, don’t expect any wax to last all that long. All of the products we tested showed a significant loss of protection within about five weeks."
Ok I think that report was crap (and I signed up to consumer reports just to read that ). First of all, they left out "Mother's." I'd definitely like to know how it stacks up against the others. Secondly, notice how the paste wax got very low durability scores compared to the liqiud wax? It is mostly because of how they rate durability by "beading." Polymer (scientifically engineered) based wax don't really make the water "bead;" they "sheet" water. This is better than beading as it means water should just slide of your paint even without beading. Most paste waxes contain a certain percentage of polymer. You might also notice that most of Macguiare's stuff are rated the lowest, while they are usually the most expensive ones in there and have the highest amount of high grade polymer in there. Oh, and the test also doesn't take into account the different kinds of shine.

On that note, I think the Macguiar's products are great, but they shine like polymers generally do: very bright, but not warm, and does not bring out the true colour of the paint. Polymer does have the advantage of chemically binding with a car's clear coat, thus protecting it much better and stay on much longer. The highest grades polymer waxes are often called "sealant" because they completely seal a car's paint from any corrosion and last very very long compared to other waxes. In this grade you will find names such as Zymol, Zaino, Pinnacle, Klasse, and P21S (the one "743 power" recommends). All these brands compete to provide all the advantages of high-grade polymer sealants, but retain the warm, rich look of the best all natural wax (99.99% Carnauba). Also, the best grade polymer waxes and polishes contain no solvent and are usually water based. They might contain oil that has lubricating quality and no solvent quality. Lower grade polishes usually lie and contain some solvent when they say they don't.

I just ordered a Blackfire complete care set to try on my week old VPB FIT. It's a small family-owned brand in USA that is suppose to rival those brands in quality while cost a little less. Will report back soon on the result after a full clean (wash, clay, polish, sealant/wax).

P.S. A question to "743 power," or any knowledgable detailer. How do I best remove dead bugs from my clear coating without damaging it. I know I'm not suppose to rub really hard while I wash my car, less I risk getting minor scars or swirls. Will clay and lubricant work?
 

Last edited by 29FSE; Sep 2, 2006 at 06:34 PM.
Old Sep 1, 2006 | 06:02 AM
  #126  
simons2k's Avatar
Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 117
From: Valencia, CA
Anyone here tried Zaino products? My brother swears by them.
 
Old Sep 1, 2006 | 07:20 AM
  #127  
743power's Avatar
Member
5 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 214
From: United States
Originally Posted by 29FSE
P.S. A question to "743 power," or any knowledgable detailer. How do I best remove dead bugs from my clear coating without damaging it. I know I'm not suppose to rub really hard while I wash my car, less I risk getting minor scars or swirls. Will clay and lubricant work?

clay with lube is what I use, just have to rewax it every time as the clay will strip te old wax. There is sponges out there that get bugs off pretty easy without messing up the paint. Also, spraying a mild degreaser on the lower half of the car, and the front bumper grill area will make the bugs dissolve while you wash, but you will also have to wax those areas.

Griots garage makes a spray on bug remover/repeller. I am going to try it when my car comes in.
 
Old Sep 1, 2006 | 05:38 PM
  #128  
29FSE's Avatar
New Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 13
From: Burnaby BC, Canada
Originally Posted by 743power
clay with lube is what I use, just have to rewax it every time as the clay will strip te old wax. There is sponges out there that get bugs off pretty easy without messing up the paint. Also, spraying a mild degreaser on the lower half of the car, and the front bumper grill area will make the bugs dissolve while you wash, but you will also have to wax those areas.

Griots garage makes a spray on bug remover/repeller. I am going to try it when my car comes in.
Thanks! Hope you get your car soon.
 
Old Sep 1, 2006 | 06:14 PM
  #129  
Lilbigwheelz's Avatar
Member
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 134
From: NY
Smile Wax

Ok now, this is way tooooo much info.
Can not compute Will Robinson(lol)
Will someone kindly tell me which wax is best for my BOA.

Thanks much
LBW
Have a great weekend!
 
Old Sep 1, 2006 | 09:24 PM
  #130  
Mr SEntra's Avatar
Member
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 79
From: San Diego, CA
Old Sep 2, 2006 | 02:24 PM
  #131  
accordselux's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 56
From: St. Paul MN
Personally on a daily driven car I use collinite wax. It will actually last quite long. I wouldnt recommend waxing it only once a year, but if you put two coats of 476s on your car before winter it should last through until spring. It's a pretty rock solid wax for a daily driver. Mothers and Meguiar's and such seldom last more than a month. But honestly don't expect a 'once a year' wax to last more than 4 or 5 months, but in general they last longer than normal waxes.
 
Old Sep 2, 2006 | 06:33 PM
  #132  
29FSE's Avatar
New Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 13
From: Burnaby BC, Canada
Originally Posted by Lilbigwheelz
Ok now, this is way tooooo much info.
Can not compute Will Robinson(lol)
Will someone kindly tell me which wax is best for my BOA.

Thanks much
LBW
Have a great weekend!
What is a "BOA"? And it really depends on what you want. Do you want to spend more time waxing? How often do you want to wax? How do you want your car to look (very shiner or deep lustered shine)? In what condition do you drive? Do you need a lot of protection? How often do you drive your car?

Answer all these questions and I'll suggest something.

Originally Posted by accordselux
Personally on a daily driven car I use collinite wax. It will actually last quite long. I wouldnt recommend waxing it only once a year, but if you put two coats of 476s on your car before winter it should last through until spring. It's a pretty rock solid wax for a daily driver. Mothers and Meguiar's and such seldom last more than a month. But honestly don't expect a 'once a year' wax to last more than 4 or 5 months, but in general they last longer than normal waxes.
I wouldn't recommend Collinite products since they contain some petroleum based solvent. Although, it is minuscule, overtime a car's clearcoating might disappear and the paint coat might get damaged. Water based waxes are the best.
 
Old Sep 2, 2006 | 07:08 PM
  #133  
29FSE's Avatar
New Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 13
From: Burnaby BC, Canada
Originally Posted by marokero
Your car must be relatively new given you're in the US like me, so the only way you're going to see even more shine than what it already comes with from Honda, is to do a machine polish and then wax.

Machine polishes are best lest for more experienced car detailers as it may easily cause accidental abrasion to clearcoating without skilled hands. If a car is less than a month old and has not seen much rough condition, then a wash and claying should be enough for pre-wax preperation.

Originally Posted by spreadhead
Black Magic Wet Shine Liquid Wax was highest rated by Consumer Reports last month. Not only was it rated highly for shine, It was rated highly for durability, which is good for me because I wax my car once a year weather it needs it or not (sometimes I do the hood and roof at six months). I haven't waxed the Fit yet as it still "beads" well. I did use it on my Xterra and it did a good job. Meguiar's Gold Class Clear Coat Wax was not rated as good for either gloss or durability
That test was crap, as they rated durability by beading and synthetic wax don't necessarily bead.

Originally Posted by spreadhead
Clearcoat does not cause beading.
Then how come cars that are driven off the dealership beads properly? They usually don't come waxed.

[quote=hqly]I normally don;t wax my car but decided to treat the fit well and do some waxing. I bought some Mcguire Gold class and all it says is to apply a thin layer.. did just that but i don't really see a nice shiny coat..
Should i apply more or am i using the wrong kind of wax to get that nice shiny look?[quote]

Macguaire's gold class is a decent wax. Why your car doesn't shine depencds on many factor. Did you wash your car properly before waxing? Did you clay (very helpful, but not necesary)? Did you polish (if your car is older)? Finally, did you buff it enough in cool weather, under shades, away from dust? If you did all this, then maybe your expectations are too high. If your car is new and you apply it properly your car should shine a little bit more as it already has clearcoating.
 

Last edited by 29FSE; Sep 2, 2006 at 07:16 PM.
Old Sep 2, 2006 | 07:25 PM
  #134  
dave92029's Avatar
Member
5 Year Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 144
From: Escondido, CA
Paste wax -Meguires

Got some Meguiars at Wal Mart. I believe in paste wax frequently when the car is new to build up a protective layer of wax. Then I was with only water. This leave the wax and the dirt comes off easily because of the layer of wax.
 
Old Sep 2, 2006 | 07:34 PM
  #135  
29FSE's Avatar
New Member
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 13
From: Burnaby BC, Canada
Originally Posted by 743power
I don't really like the mothers one. Clay magic makes a good one. It comes in a blue and black box I think
Mother's is cheaper though right?

Originally Posted by slinkywhistle
I've been keeping up with as many of the washing/waxing/detailing threads and replies that have been cropping up in this forum, and have gotten some great things rec'd like microfiber waffle cloths and wax brands like Zaino and Mothers.

I've also seen some links to good online suppliers, which is where I found: http://store.yahoo.com/classic-motor...esfornewc.html

Can any of the obsessive enthusiasts/detailing gurus chime in as to whether or not this is a good value? My Fit's NHBP so I'm going to really be putting some time, $ and effort into keeping this car clean, but above all I want to make sure I'm doing it Right.

Also, is it advantageous to use a (synthetic?) wax on top of an acrylic coat?

Thanks in advance.
I just ordered a set of Blackfire products from them too =). Hopefully they'll be good. To answer your question, it really depends on the wax you happen to use. It's about the chemical compounds and how they react, sometimes brands work together and sometimes they don't. It might be better if you just try a simple sprayon-synthetic wax after the acrylic coating, then see if you're satisfy with the result. The acrylic coat alone should be enough protection when you first apply it though. Use the synth wax to reinforce it.
 
Old Sep 3, 2006 | 11:58 AM
  #136  
Lilbigwheelz's Avatar
Member
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 134
From: NY
Smile Wax

[QUOTE]What is a "BOA"? And it really depends on what you want. Do you want to spend more time waxing? How often do you want to wax? How do you want your car to look (very shiner or deep lustered shine)? In what condition do you drive? Do you need a lot of protection? How often do you drive your car?

Hi 29FSE,

Blazin' orange
Not too much time
2-4x's a year
Deep lustered shine
NY weather(not near water)
Not too little but not alot alot of protection, what ever is considered above normal I guess
Everyday driver
Thanks so much

LBW
 
Old Sep 3, 2006 | 09:24 PM
  #137  
jdmparts@gmail.com's Avatar
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 136
From: NJ
I've beeing using Turtle Wax's new line Ice. I'll take some pictures of the Fit tomorrow during the day, but who said Tafetta White doesn't shine .

The stuff is very easy to use and doesn't leave any residue behind.
 
Old Sep 4, 2006 | 05:41 PM
  #138  
lessismore's Avatar
New Member
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1
From: Tampa, Florida
Anybody tried the Simoniz System 5 yet. Sounds too good to be true.

My Dealer tried to sell this to me for $495.00. (for the interior and exterior) read all about it here: http://www.simonizusa.com/demoend.asp
Guarantees the paint and interior against damage (birds, trees, UV, puke, soda, etc) for 5 years. Never have to wax your car for 5 years. Its some Dupont Teflon stuff. If its true I'd do it in a heartbeat. 5 years = at least 20 waxes = 60-80hours of my life. Almost sounds like a bargain when put into perspective. If your paying someone to detail your car then you could save some serious bucks over 5 years. If you ever have to make a claim they pay up to $50/day for a rental.
 
Old Sep 5, 2006 | 01:46 AM
  #139  
MirrorWorks's Avatar
Member
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 258
From: Riverside, CA
It doesn't do jack.
I'm a detailer (www.MirrorWorks.bz) and i've done a Honda Pilot that is 3ish years old. They had that protection and there was already rust forming on the roof. Although the paint felt healthier than if it didn't have the protection, it still allowed rust to accumulate, which means its not worth $500.

tre
 
Old Sep 6, 2006 | 05:36 PM
  #140  
hatchgeek's Avatar
Member
5 Year Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 288
From: Oakland, CA
I actually just tried it this weekend. I was hoping I could get out a rubber scrape on my bumper from some idiot parrallel parker. Anyway, it did buff out some other minor scrapes, but on some more deeper scratches it did very little. On the rubber scrape, some of it came out but I think that was more of my own elbow grease working it out than the ScratchX. I thought of trying the Nu-Finish next but I have a feeling it won't make much more of a difference.
 



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:43 AM.