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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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Hopefully we get a release date this week, I'm excited!
 
Old Mar 17, 2008 | 02:54 PM
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You guys...

I will let you know when we will be able to release the kit. As I have said many times, we have an estimated ship date, but that can change. We are super excited to have the amount of pre-orders we have had, and we appreciate all the support from the Fit community.

We are working very hard, and have personally made sure this kit is bullet-proof. But of course this takes time. We will be able to release a date very VERY soon.

-OJR
 

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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by KraftWerks
You guys...

I will let you know when we will be able to release the kit. As I have said many times, we have an estimated ship date, but that can change. We are super excited to have the amount of pre-orders we have had, and we appreciate all the support from the Fit community.

We are working very hard, and have personally made sure this kit is bullet-proof. But of course this takes time. We will be able to release a date very VERY soon.

-OJR
As you can tell, we are all impatient people hahahahah
 
Old Mar 17, 2008 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by KraftWerks
You guys...

I will let you know when we will be able to release the kit. As I have said many times, we have an estimated ship date, but that can change. We are super excited to have the amount of pre-orders we have had, and we appreciate all the support from the Fit community.

We are working very hard, and have personally made sure this kit is bullet-proof. But of course this takes time. We will be able to release a date very VERY soon.

-OJR
But no info on the A/T kit....so what is the main difference? The Fuel program or piping/configuration?
 
Old Mar 17, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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It's even bulletproof? SWEET! Just when I thought it couldn't be any better!
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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It's even bulletproof? SWEET! Just when I thought it couldn't be any better!
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Yea i'm sure it's bulletproof but will it drag a bunch of cubans across the 90 mile stretch? I bet it's not waterproof . My people will be disappointed

I'm from Miami so dont take the joke so serious ppl.
 
Old Mar 17, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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But no info on the A/T kit....so what is the main difference? The Fuel program or piping/configuration?
I am sure Oscar will clarify, but my understanding after talking to him was that it's mostly some different fine tuning of the SuperCard-- and that the AT version will be ready pretty shortly after the MT is released.

While I am among the most impatient people out there, I am so glad they are doing the extra R&D to make sure this thing is rock-solid. Kinda like when I am waiting for a plane flight that is a little delayed because they are fixing a vital engine or other part. I hate being delayed, but would rather them take their time and know that it's 100%-- rather than rush just to stay on some implied schedule and possibly miss something.
 
Old Mar 17, 2008 | 04:01 PM
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great metaphor. especially if my plane ticket costed over 3 grand lol
 
Old Mar 17, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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just hang on... unfortunately this stuff does take time.

can anyone recommend a decent dyno shop in the bay area (san jose/mountain view)? i was thinking to dyno my a/t fit for the hell of it (in a/t mode not paddles), i'm just highly curious at this point. whoops right, i should have asked this in another thread, apology.
 

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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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Weapon R is based out in that area and they have a dyno at their shop you can use. But back on topic, will it be possible to run a piggy back along with the super card? Or will the piggy back render the supercard redundant?
 
Old Mar 17, 2008 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by KraftWerks
The free-flowing header and/or test-pipe will help scavenge exhaust out of the cylinders, allowing for more supercharged air to enter the cylinder. But you must be able to fuel the additional air. That is where the upgraded injectors come in.
Since my silly question made it to Thread 2.0 here, I've got a follow-up question if someone wants to explain some more. Compression ratio is listed as 10.4:1, so even if exhaust back-pressure was something ridiculously high like 30psi and you cut it down to 15, that'd still at best make room for around 1/3 of 9.6% = 3.2% more air. Less actually since it's forced induction, so say 4% is the most I can possibly imagine seeing. So the ~15% gain in power to the wheels would mostly come from working less hard to pump that air, rather than moving more of it, and it'd be substantially more efficient.

So did I get all this wrong, or are the injectors running within a few percent of their maximum capacity with the supercharger base kit? Presumably that would be with dense cold air at -40 degrees or something, which should make more than 10% difference compared to mild climates, so then technically you wouldn't really need the upgraded injectors if you only drive in California? Is there a minimum operating temperature or something, or is it just a known maximum fuel injector pulse that the ECU can generate that it's designed to meet?
 

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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 10:33 PM
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Where are the kits being made?
 
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 12:38 AM
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if we ran headers,cat delete,and exhaust,what size piping should we use?60mm or would the 2.25 be good?also do i loose power if i ran headers and exhaust leaving in the cat?
 
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 08:54 AM
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What ever happened to those BEAUTIFUL titanium headers on the Jackson's site? Weren't those for the fit? are they ever going into production? Can I have one? lol
 
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 09:19 AM
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But no info on the A/T kit....so what is the main difference? The Fuel program or piping/configuration?
That a boy Ron, I knew you couldn't stop fixing up your ride completely .
 
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 10:55 AM
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if we ran headers,cat delete,and exhaust,what size piping should we use?60mm or would the 2.25 be good?also do i loose power if i ran headers and exhaust leaving in the cat?
Hopefully Oscar can answer this question definitively. My understanding from asking him basically the same thing was that there is significant whp increase with headers and just axelback exhaust, but you MUST have/replace the injectors. But that was with the AT kit. It was around 120 whp with the s/c and stock everything else and closer to 140 hp when you run (any) good aftermarket header and exhaust (leaving the cat) and of course replacing the injectors with the ones they are offering.
 
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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Where are the kits being made?
The KraftWerks kit components are made in the USA, while the Rotrex supercharger is made by Rotrex in Denmark. KraftWerks imports the Rotrex superchargers under our distributorship.

The KraftWerks kits are assembled at our facility in California.

-OJR
 

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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by gotfitted
Weapon R is based out in that area and they have a dyno at their shop you can use. But back on topic, will it be possible to run a piggy back along with the super card? Or will the piggy back render the supercard redundant?
You should not run the SuperCard and a piggyback at the same time. Use one or the other. Running both could really get confusing.

I should note, a piggyback would not be CARB-approved.

-OJR
 
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 11:57 AM
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So where are these manufacturing plants so we can go harass them to speed things up?!?!
 
Old Mar 18, 2008 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sfenders
Since my silly question made it to Thread 2.0 here, I've got a follow-up question if someone wants to explain some more. Compression ratio is listed as 10.4:1, so even if exhaust back-pressure was something ridiculously high like 30psi and you cut it down to 15, that'd still at best make room for around 1/3 of 9.6% = 3.2% more air. Less actually since it's forced induction, so say 4% is the most I can possibly imagine seeing. So the ~15% gain in power to the wheels would mostly come from working less hard to pump that air, rather than moving more of it, and it'd be substantially more efficient.

So did I get all this wrong, or are the injectors running within a few percent of their maximum capacity with the supercharger base kit? Presumably that would be with dense cold air at -40 degrees or something, which should make more than 10% difference compared to mild climates, so then technically you wouldn't really need the upgraded injectors if you only drive in California? Is there a minimum operating temperature or something, or is it just a known maximum fuel injector pulse that the ECU can generate that it's designed to meet?
With a good aftermarket header, the engine is not choked up because of the poor header design. This allows the exhaust to be scavenged better, which allows the cylinders to be filled by the supercharger easier.

You will need the upgraded injector pack in all climates if you do a header and/or cat-delete. We have tested the kit in all types of altitudes and temperatures.

-OJR
 



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