KraftWerks Supercharger Kit Thread 2.0!
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We will confirm international compatibility once our production pieces our available. We will be sending these pieces to Rotrex partners throughout the world to check Right Hand Drive Fit/Jazz. We believe that we should have no problems.
Unfortunately, the kit will be available in North America only upon initial release. We will get our international testing complete, and then the kit will be available to all Fit/Jazz owners...
-OJR
Unfortunately, the kit will be available in North America only upon initial release. We will get our international testing complete, and then the kit will be available to all Fit/Jazz owners...
-OJR
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We are now taking pre-orders for 07-08 Honda Fit Base Supercharger Kits!!
This initial pre-order is for USDM Manual Transmission only, but we will be adding Automatic Transmission support soon!
We have posted a Base Kit dyno graph for the Manual Transmission Fit. The Base kit dyno graph is on a completely stock Fit. Supercharger Kit and that's it!
There will be more dyno graphs added this month, including:
-Base Kit with Exhaust Upgrades
-Automatic Transmission support
-KraftWerks Upgrade Packages
-KraftWerks Time Attack Fit
Check out the dyno figures and pre-order at www.kraftwerksusa.com!
When you place your $500 pre-order deposit, you will receive a 10% discount on your new Fit kit. Pre-order now, as this is a limited time offer!
-Oscar Jackson Jr.
This initial pre-order is for USDM Manual Transmission only, but we will be adding Automatic Transmission support soon!
We have posted a Base Kit dyno graph for the Manual Transmission Fit. The Base kit dyno graph is on a completely stock Fit. Supercharger Kit and that's it!
There will be more dyno graphs added this month, including:
-Base Kit with Exhaust Upgrades
-Automatic Transmission support
-KraftWerks Upgrade Packages
-KraftWerks Time Attack Fit
Check out the dyno figures and pre-order at www.kraftwerksusa.com!
When you place your $500 pre-order deposit, you will receive a 10% discount on your new Fit kit. Pre-order now, as this is a limited time offer!
-Oscar Jackson Jr.
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Okay, I just barely managed to resist placing my pre-order today... It was a close call. Waiting for dyno with different exhaust.
It shows somewhat less power than we'd been led to expect by some of the posts here. Is it true that it was limited to 120hp due to CARB restrictions? If so, how was this accomplished?
It shows somewhat less power than we'd been led to expect by some of the posts here. Is it true that it was limited to 120hp due to CARB restrictions? If so, how was this accomplished?
We will be offering an injector upgrade package for those that want to do a header and cat-delete, and it will work directly with the Base kit. The upgrade pack will be a minimal price, plug and play, and will allow full support for tons of modifications.
We have tested a few different cat-backs, and they all have shown minimal gain. On a S2000, for example, we found a cat-back system that lost over 50 WHP!!
The biggest performance gain you can do for your Base SC Fit is ultra-light wheels and high-performance tires.-OJR
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-OJR
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In order to meet CARB specs, we have used the stock injectors with our SuperCard unit. And these stock injectors have been our big limitation, and we have reached the limit for the little Fit injectors at 121 WHP. Remember this is the Base CARB pending kit and the small stock injectors. We are literally at the limit of what we can do to meet CARB. And we have made over a 30% increase in power, through a stock header and catalytic converter.
Once you add boost, when you upgrade certain engine components it shows huge gains. A header and test-pipe help the supercharged engine breathe so much, you must ensure you have the fueling capability to support it. This is because the free-flowing exhaust will allow the supercharger to fill the cylinders better and have the potential to make more power. But you must be able to fuel that additional power, or you will not make the additional power.
The injector upgrade is what helps support the additional breathing, and will definitely yield power gains.
I still say: The best performance products to compliment your Base SC Fit, besides the injector upgrade, are small ultra-light wheels and high-performance tires.
-OJR
Once you add boost, when you upgrade certain engine components it shows huge gains. A header and test-pipe help the supercharged engine breathe so much, you must ensure you have the fueling capability to support it. This is because the free-flowing exhaust will allow the supercharger to fill the cylinders better and have the potential to make more power. But you must be able to fuel that additional power, or you will not make the additional power.
The injector upgrade is what helps support the additional breathing, and will definitely yield power gains.
I still say: The best performance products to compliment your Base SC Fit, besides the injector upgrade, are small ultra-light wheels and high-performance tires.
-OJR
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Hi, I am curious as well as to how much shipping costs will be like to Canada. Also would be interested to know what the approximate price of the injector upgrades will be and if it will be available simultaneously when the kit is released; seeing as it would be needed for someone that is running a I/H/E setup. Thanks~
Chris' car has been running the injector upgrade.
-OJR
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Hey Oscar,
I had a question if we were local is there anyway we could pick it up and save ourselves the cost of shipping? Also I wanted to know if you guys would immediately charge our credit card once the product was available to be shipped, or could I hold off on paying off the rest of the balance. The reason I ask is because I am sure that I want the kit, and I most definitely want to pre-order it in order to save the additional 10%, but I don't think I will have the entire amount ready by the time the kit is available, but I do have enough for the deposit. If you have an estimate on when the actual kit will be available, it would be really helpful in deciding if I would be able to pull this off. Thanks for your time.
Tom Pham
I had a question if we were local is there anyway we could pick it up and save ourselves the cost of shipping? Also I wanted to know if you guys would immediately charge our credit card once the product was available to be shipped, or could I hold off on paying off the rest of the balance. The reason I ask is because I am sure that I want the kit, and I most definitely want to pre-order it in order to save the additional 10%, but I don't think I will have the entire amount ready by the time the kit is available, but I do have enough for the deposit. If you have an estimate on when the actual kit will be available, it would be really helpful in deciding if I would be able to pull this off. Thanks for your time.
Tom Pham
Your credit card will be charged the remaining balance as the product ships.
-OJR
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Is there a way to annotate that I plan on picking up the item, to keep you guys from automatically shipping it once the product is ready. I was also hoping to place the deposit ahead of time, and somewhere down the line when I had the rest of the money available pay off the rest and pick up the kit. Is this possible? Thanks again for all the help.
-OJR
Does this Kit cause any extra wear and tear on the Engine/Auto tranny?
Also since im super noob to all this stuff. Does the Kit cuase any extra noise at low RPM like 3K? Or does it become noticable at a higher RPM or is there any noise at all? I just SC a Teg on Forza and it made a pretty sweet noise but only at higher RPM.
Thank you guys.
Tyler
Also since im super noob to all this stuff. Does the Kit cuase any extra noise at low RPM like 3K? Or does it become noticable at a higher RPM or is there any noise at all? I just SC a Teg on Forza and it made a pretty sweet noise but only at higher RPM.
Thank you guys.
Tyler
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We will be posting information about our Time Attack Fit very soon!
-OJR
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Okay, I still don't quite get it. A more free-flowing exhaust would reduce back-pressure on the exhaust stroke, right? How would that affect filling the engine with supercharged air? Somehow there's less time for the intake stroke at a given RPM or something? And if the injectors with the base supercharger kit are at their limit with the stock exhaust, how likely is it that a more free-flowing exhaust isn't going to cause the engine to blow up?
The upgraded injectors are required when using a header and/or test-pipe. The gains when using header, test-pipe, and injectors are substantial! I will post them soon.
-OJR
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The upgraded injector package will be available when kits ship.
-OJR
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Any additional information in regards to the AT model, and also CARB approval date would greatly be appreciated.
AT was stated to be available at the same time, but it's been 2 weeks after so far, so an approximate availability date would be great.
Currently this kit is CARB pending, and I have seen CARB pending on the 96-97 240sx turbo kit for over 5 years, and it has yet to be approved for Greddy the last time I checked so a date of approval would be nice, not saying you won't have it, just wanting to know since I live right next to the Police station.
AT was stated to be available at the same time, but it's been 2 weeks after so far, so an approximate availability date would be great.
Currently this kit is CARB pending, and I have seen CARB pending on the 96-97 240sx turbo kit for over 5 years, and it has yet to be approved for Greddy the last time I checked so a date of approval would be nice, not saying you won't have it, just wanting to know since I live right next to the Police station.
CARB:
We are KraftWerks.
KraftWerks' Oscar Jackson Sr. has always built CARB legal kits, but they all start as CARB Pending for the first month or so. That is just how the system works. If we wait, we will not be able to release the kit until May or June. Every Jackson Racing kit of the past has been CARB-legal. Our Ford Focus supercharger kits even passed ULEV standards!!
So we have plenty of experience in making cars CARB-legal.-OJR
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-OJR
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KraftWerksUSA.com has the updated dyno graphs... but I will post them here was well.
The "Injector Package" runs used an aftermarket header, cat-delete, and full exhaust.
Stock (Red) vs Base Kit with Injector Package (Blue)
Base Kit with Stock Header, Stock Cat, Stock Exhaust (Red) vs Base Kit with Injector Package (Blue)
-OJR
The "Injector Package" runs used an aftermarket header, cat-delete, and full exhaust.
Stock (Red) vs Base Kit with Injector Package (Blue)
Base Kit with Stock Header, Stock Cat, Stock Exhaust (Red) vs Base Kit with Injector Package (Blue)
-OJR
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-OJR
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Whoa guys! Whoa! 
I am just trying to give you the most information possible, as often as we can.
Siphon vs Ours:
That dyno is NOT a re-post of the Siphon Mag. It is a fresh graph from testing. So we are showing our consistency.
Auto:
Automatic kit information will release shortly. Like I have said before, we must test to ensure that the kits work for both MT and AT flawlessly. We do things right the first time.
Header with Cat:
IIRC, the header is what produces the majority of the gains. The stock header has a HORRIBLE collector, and gains are greater once you start adding boost. I will see if I can find that graph in the files, upon files of dyno runs.
Dyno Numbers:
Like previously stated, Chris had mis-information, and had been running the Siphon setup (Base Kit with Injector Package and Header-Back exhaust)the entire time.
We are working long hours to get this product ready and out to you guys. Its a process, and I know it is time consuming. Trust me, I wish I could send them out, so I could stop getting beat up you gents.
-OJR
I am just trying to give you the most information possible, as often as we can.
Siphon vs Ours:
That dyno is NOT a re-post of the Siphon Mag. It is a fresh graph from testing. So we are showing our consistency.
Auto:
Automatic kit information will release shortly. Like I have said before, we must test to ensure that the kits work for both MT and AT flawlessly. We do things right the first time.
Header with Cat:
IIRC, the header is what produces the majority of the gains. The stock header has a HORRIBLE collector, and gains are greater once you start adding boost. I will see if I can find that graph in the files, upon files of dyno runs.
Dyno Numbers:
Like previously stated, Chris had mis-information, and had been running the Siphon setup (Base Kit with Injector Package and Header-Back exhaust)the entire time.
We are working long hours to get this product ready and out to you guys. Its a process, and I know it is time consuming. Trust me, I wish I could send them out, so I could stop getting beat up you gents.
-OJR
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How much does the injector upgrade cost on top of the base kit?
How much will the shipping kit weigh, and where is it being shipped from (so I can calculate shipping to Canada)
Will you give heads up like you did for the miata letting us know the last day for pre-order to get the discount?
Can I pay for the full kit instead of just the pre-order?
Thanks for all the info thus far, hope I'll be one of the first to support your further R&D
How much will the shipping kit weigh, and where is it being shipped from (so I can calculate shipping to Canada)
Will you give heads up like you did for the miata letting us know the last day for pre-order to get the discount?
Can I pay for the full kit instead of just the pre-order?
Thanks for all the info thus far, hope I'll be one of the first to support your further R&D
2: We don't know what the final shipping weight will be yet. If I knew, I would be sending you guys kits.
3: We will give FitFreak and the Interest List a heads-up for the last week of pre-orders. We have not released the Miata product... I think you meant S2000. But yes, they have been well informed of the last pre-order day.
4: For pre-orders, we only accept the standard deposit at this time. The remaining balance of the kit will be charged before the kit ships.
And we appreciate the support!
-OJR
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What is an estimated ETA date of the release of the kit, and what is the hold up (MT and AT)?
How many wires does this Supercard/piggy back require to tap into on our ECU or is there a plug-n-play harnes similar to the HKS setup? Is it recommended to soilder all wires if it requires tapping into our wiring?
Is there any electrical mods that will conflict with this SUpercard, per say the ignition boosters, and stuff?
So the Supercard has the maps with and without upgraded injectors? or is it a different Supercard map we need to upload, or exchange?
When will the intercooler kit be released? Will it be along side the 10psi kit?
I'm interested, but i hate sitting on my hands.
How many wires does this Supercard/piggy back require to tap into on our ECU or is there a plug-n-play harnes similar to the HKS setup? Is it recommended to soilder all wires if it requires tapping into our wiring?
Is there any electrical mods that will conflict with this SUpercard, per say the ignition boosters, and stuff?
So the Supercard has the maps with and without upgraded injectors? or is it a different Supercard map we need to upload, or exchange?
When will the intercooler kit be released? Will it be along side the 10psi kit?
I'm interested, but i hate sitting on my hands.
1: Estimated Ship Date is Late March for MT. We will announce if AT will be included in the Late March release, or carry its own release shortly after the MT release. By the way, we offer local pick-up.
2: The SuperCard is plug-n-play directly to the injectors. The ECU will never see the SuperCard unit, which allows the ECU to operate as normal. The SuperCard has a full injector harness, so you don't have to solder or wire anything.
3: The SuperCard should be connected to switched power according to the instructions.
4: The Injector Upgrade Package will include Injectors, Plug-n-Play Injector Clips, and revised SuperCard chip.
5: No time line has been established for the intercooler package. We have not had high intake air temperatures, even at 10 PSI! We will announce the High-Boost kit and Intercooler status in Late March/Early April. We will offer Base Kit owners the option to upgrade to the High-Boost Kit.
-OJR