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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 11:08 AM
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lol NONE! super unlimited class! lol Fit vs Vipers and shit
Would you be interested in commisioning my services to design a predictable, responsive and reliable system with midrange grunt to pull out of the corners and a enough top end for keeping up with the 8.0L Vipers, Porsche GT2s and the occasional Superleggera? You've got the platform for it.

I cut FF.net users a hefty discount. Obviously we can do some back and forth to determine your goals and what would be most appropriate but I already have a few options in mind. It sounds like you have more than a few reputable shops handy to fab/install and I have accumulated more than a few suppliers over the years and I can get some nice discounts on many bits.

Maybe we can even work out a trade + cash difference for some of those parts you're looking to get rid of.. I need a back up motor and trans anyways!

Anyways, mull it over. I watched the video and couldn't help but imagine what that would look like with some more passing power. I'm thinking 60-80 and 80-100mph times closer to the 1.3-1.5sec range. The Fit weighs nothing and you have the suspension and chassis bracing to get the power down effectively
 

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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DiamondStarMonsters
Would you be interested in commisioning my services to design a predictable, responsive and reliable system with midrange grunt to pull out of the corners and a enough top end for keeping up with the 8.0L Vipers, Porsche GT2s and the occasional Superleggera? You've got the platform for it.

I cut FF.net users a hefty discount. Obviously we can do some back and forth to determine your goals and what would be most appropriate but I already have a few options in mind. It sounds like you have more than a few reputable shops handy to fab/install and I have accumulated more than a few suppliers over the years and I can get some nice discounts on many bits.

Maybe we can even work out a trade + cash difference for some of those parts you're looking to get rid of.. I need a back up motor and trans anyways!

Anyways, mull it over. I watched the video and couldn't help but imagine what that would look like with some more passing power. I'm thinking 60-80 and 80-100mph times closer to the 1.3-1.5sec range. The Fit weighs nothing and you have the suspension and chassis bracing to get the power down effectively
sounds pretty good diamondstar! but I really have so much help that I can't even use it all lol. If you were local in my town I would deff love to do something like this but over the distance and what not, I can't see it really benefiting me as much as I would like. The motor is super easy to understand and all my time on the track I feel pretty complete with the understand of the Fit's chassis. If I was a professional "racer" and really wanted all I could possibly get out of this car then yes, I can completely see your point and would jump all over your offer. But seeing as most of the time I do open track days or HPDE, really no need just yet to assemble a team and go to town.

maybe eventually. And Im not turning down your offer at all man, I greatly appreciate your desire to make monster become a freak of nature. haha Just not right now. Let me see where the road takes me

About the L15A motor and trans. Its not making me any money sitting in my garage nor loosing money but I would love to see it gone. I would love to work out a deal with you. I know its a great motor.

I am always open to suggestion and advice on my build.
 
Old Feb 1, 2012 | 12:22 PM
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I am always open to suggestion and advice on my build.
Try to fit an RRC intake mani in there. Give you lots more potential and range than the PRB. I know most say it cant be done but most ppl arent you either...lol
 
Old Feb 1, 2012 | 12:30 PM
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Try to fit an RRC intake mani in there. Give you lots more potential and range than the PRB. I know most say it cant be done but most ppl arent you either...lol
haha its on my future to do list.

It can be done and I have the ability really.

basically my radiator support/ cross member part will have to be removed and a custom one will be made to take its place.

I would even go to extent to incorporate it into my existing 8 point cage O.O
 
Old Feb 1, 2012 | 12:55 PM
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Yeah thats kinda what i was thinking but without seeing the car in front of me its hard to visualize it exactly. Im getting and RRC for my si prolly by the end of the year at the latest
 
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I understand completely, and when the bug bites.. I'll be waiting! And yes, I would like to work something out on that.

Let me settle into the new house and I will be on that like white on rice if we can cut a deal that works for both of us.

Hopefully you can elevate to a level where there is a calling for it, as the K20 is a great platform in the 500whp range and one of my favorite Honda cylinder heads for big power and torque on boost.

It would be a fun project to collaborate on with you and push the GD platform further. Because you, like myself go out and do what you dream. I do this for a few groups already, and often have to phone it in as a couple are out of country, so just let me know!

I intend to make my way down to Texas at least once or twice in the next few years, perhaps we can grab a few drinks and get a few other Texas FF members together. We would likely be trailering the DSM at that point and I would be driving down in the GD which will definitely be "finished" by then as I intend to run it at the mile as well.
 
Old Feb 1, 2012 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JCrimson
haha its on my future to do list.

It can be done and I have the ability really.

basically my radiator support/ cross member part will have to be removed and a custom one will be made to take its place.

I would even go to extent to incorporate it into my existing 8 point cage O.O
Front-half the Fit with chromoly so you can do what you like and still pass tech!
 
Old Feb 1, 2012 | 03:12 PM
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Oh man.. Just the thought of 500WHP is too much for me to mentally handle... I think it's time for a double shot of 45% ethanol with a splash of 95% to expedite the effect... There is a local kid coming by to take me for a ride in his Eclipse he has been working on.. All at once there are more guys around here that are into sport compacts and boost than I ever thought there would be.
 
Old Feb 1, 2012 | 03:23 PM
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Oh man.. Just the thought of 500WHP is too much for me to mentally handle... I think it's time for a double shot of 45% ethanol with a splash of 95% to expedite the effect... There is a local kid coming by to take me for a ride in his Eclipse he has been working on.. All at once there are more guys around here that are into sport compacts and boost than I ever knew about before i was into it.
FTFY! lol

Sport compacts and boost is more common than not its just that most dont know what they are doing so the motors are in pieces on a work bench somewhere. But when you start doing it your self, ppl notice you and you notice them so it them SEEMS as if there are more all of a sudden.
 
Old Feb 1, 2012 | 04:12 PM
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DiamondStarMonsters
I understand completely, and when the bug bites.. I'll be waiting! And yes, I would like to work something out on that.

Let me settle into the new house and I will be on that like white on rice if we can cut a deal that works for both of us.

Hopefully you can elevate to a level where there is a calling for it, as the K20 is a great platform in the 500whp range and one of my favorite Honda cylinder heads for big power and torque on boost.

It would be a fun project to collaborate on with you and push the GD platform further. Because you, like myself go out and do what you dream. I do this for a few groups already, and often have to phone it in as a couple are out of country, so just let me know!

I intend to make my way down to Texas at least once or twice in the next few years, perhaps we can grab a few drinks and get a few other Texas FF members together. We would likely be trailering the DSM at that point and I would be driving down in the GD which will definitely be "finished" by then as I intend to run it at the mile as well.
hell yeah. i could use a few drinks! haha let me know when you are coming down and i can provide room and board!

Originally Posted by DiamondStarMonsters
Front-half the Fit with chromoly so you can do what you like and still pass tech!
you are correct! light weight and its legal.

haha i know man. I stay on k20a more and more every day. lol I just dont favor FI. If i was to Fi, it would be rotrex. I still need to grow into whatever power I have now lol. i would LOVE to stay NA. 300 NA power would make me a content happy panda.

J's racing claimed 330 NA out of their fit. I can do it too.
 
Old Feb 1, 2012 | 04:46 PM
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haha i know man. I stay on k20a more and more every day. lol I just dont favor FI. If i was to Fi, it would be rotrex. I still need to grow into whatever power I have now lol. i would LOVE to stay NA. 300 NA power would make me a content happy panda.

J's racing claimed 330 NA out of their fit. I can do it too.
If that is possible theres no reason i cant pull EXTREMELY close to 300whp from an 8th gen Si with a K20Z3 motor.

Import DPS 3.5" intake to HR throttle body to RRC mani to cammed head to 11.7:1 pistons to catless header to 3"catback. All tuned with FP. Other lil bits here and there that add 1-2 HP but those are the big number makers. That should put me pretty close
 

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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 06:12 PM
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300whp NA would be so nice. That is kind of my long term goal for the car as well. Looking forward to more videos JC
 
Old Feb 1, 2012 | 06:24 PM
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Wasn't the J's Fit a 2.4 though?
 
Old Feb 1, 2012 | 07:00 PM
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Wasn't the J's Fit a 2.4 though?
STOP KILLING MY DREAM!!! AAGAHAAGAHAAGAHAH!!!!!! lol

EDIT: Did some research...i think it was K20a Head and K24a bottom end. But that dont make no diff! IMA BE THE PIMPEST FA IN EAST TX!!!
 

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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 08:23 PM
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^^^ that is so nice. I see they have ITB's and they fit with out cutting up the hood.... hmm
 
Old Feb 1, 2012 | 10:43 PM
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thanks apex! how is your fit coming along? havent heard anything lately!
it's coming... the front trans mount was a huge step in feel... once the car is mine, i'll install the bottom-center mount, get the swift springs w/ camber bolts, and put my srt4 seats from my ptgt into the fit (this will be awesome)...

i'm now researching short shifters... any opinions? i know you had the mugen... bc has a cheaper one with a shorter throw, and then there are the "bolt on" ones... i basically want something thats shorter but a more precise feel and increased effort...
 
Old Feb 1, 2012 | 10:55 PM
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Best motor in my opinion as far as K series goes is K20A with F22C crank. More revs with stock parts, to the tune of 10,500 easily. I too favor NA over boost, just the sound alone draws me in. Nothing against boost as it makes a shit ton of power when done properly.

dled, why even go with 11.7 pistons, the K20A already has 11.5 from the DC5 and 11.7 from the FD2 and you can just get a thinner headgasket to get that .2~.3 extra compression. Unless you have the rest of the world spec K20A 11.0:1 setup. Mine had Mugen's headgasket which raised compression to just about 11.8:1. Though, if you are going to go with pistons, might as well at least go 12.5:1 if staying NA. I was going to go bigger when my motor popped, but Honda warrantied it and replaced the bottom end, so it didn't cost me anything so I kept it stock apart from slipping the Mugen headgasket in.

J, your car needs more LOUD. People in Taiwan could hear me...I expect and want Oklahoma to be calling and bitching. hahaha
 
Old Feb 2, 2012 | 01:53 AM
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300whp will be easier than you think provided the parts are complimentary. Alot of this will determine on two things: Cam choice and your manifolds.

The only way you are going to hit 300whp on an NA 2.0 is with healthy VE on the back half and an astronomical rev limit.

You have a flashable ECM yes? Do what I do and git you some C16 and let her rip, then switch back to the pump piss tune for the commute.

I agree with 555, at least 12.5:1 slugs and the F22 crank. You can just run her a little fat and pull some timing around peak VE and then ramp the attack rate back up and lean out towards the top where cylinder pressure falls off.. some coated/grooved bearings and a little love on the oil pump plus the addition of your sump mods and you'll be in good shape.

Wind it to the moon with the biggest lopiest cam you can get your hands on
(This may require cutting some reliefs in the pistons), drop in some Ti retainers, maybe some shims and the beefiest beehives or double springs you can find, and hold on tight. This is where that custom exhaust header and intake manifold will start to reveal whether they were worth the cost in terms of flow.

In the long run, I would probably look at getting some PPG gears or a full dogbox and a twin disk clutch to handle slamming gears north of 11k as lock-out may rear its head.
 



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