with the supercharger installed you think the fit will be able to keep up with a V8 mustang ( with bolt ons)

 

the k motors also mount farther forward in the bay, and weigh more. on the track anyways, a good balance is more important than high power. besides, if you wanted a k series, buy a car that comes with one. also, for a long time, its been thought that around 200-250hp is the most useable amout of power in a FWD application, since the drive wheels also handle the majority of the braking, not to mention steering. i know there are many people successfully tracking cars with more than this, but outside of drag racing, i don't see the point.

 

- You're going to get to know the Highway Patrol very well I see.

 

When you mention the track, are you referring to autocross, road course, 1/4 mile, etc? And....can you elaborate on what the set-ups are in these K swapped Fits that are receiving the so called ass handage?

 

Here's one example:

https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/aj-r...ap-battle.html

 

Not in a straight line, but anythings possible when turns and stops come into play.

 

I utterly schooled a cobra SVT in tight mountain roads. only mods were Tein Basic coilovers, and some 16's with Toyoto T1R's. Soon as roads opened up though, different story I felt like I was driving backwards

 

Completely agreed, but my point is that 200 whp isn't going to be enough to compete with S2K's, 350Z's, etc.

Don't agree here. Even the EP3 Si is considerably heavier than a Fit would be with a K swap. Plus, it appears that it can more easily be converted back to the stock powertrain without having to weld mounts and the shift plate back into place like a K swapped 2001 or earlier Civic or Integra.

I've heard/read the same thing. I'm sure that the point is valid, but why limit yourself to 200 whp and not even give yourself the opportunity to see if, for example, 250 hp was better than 200?

 

That's because he didn't want to die. Haha.

 

I wouldn't exactly consider barely more than 1 tenth on the track as ass handage, especially when we have no idea how they were set-up for suspension, alignment, etc. By the way, how much boost was A-J running in their Fit? Regardless, those 2:06 lap times are pretty damn poor, boosted, K swapped, or otherwise.

 

the reason why i asked because this dude in is cobra wants to race me so bad with the s/c kit on my car for some reason

 

how is 200hp not gonna be enough? S2ks put down about 220whp... I guarantee my Fit is gonna be all over my S at 200whp


anywhoo were getting off topic... if anyone wants to continue this lets continue it in the generic supercharger thread.

 

Is he just looking for fun or is he trying to prove something? Hopefully the 1st option.

 

It's going to be plenty in a straight line, but I have a feeling that you didn't buy the Fit so that it could tear up the 1/4 mile.

 

you just said that it would be plenty... but a few posts back you said it wouldnt be enough?

anyways this is where im ending with this topic... from here on i wil only talk about the KRAFTWERKS kit in here.

 

Just to clarify before this is "ended". When i said "200 whp isn't going to be enough to compete with S2K's, 350Z's, etc." that was in response/reference to Lyshk0's post in regards to balance on a race track. Not a 1/4 mile track. So, the 200 hp fit can be BOTH enough to keep up with an S2K in a 1/4 mile, yet at the same time not enough on a real road course where the S2K's far superior design and set-up more than compensate for it's lack of power to weight. The fact that A-JRacing's own S2000 is nearly 12 seconds per lap quicker than their own Turbo'd Fit further exemplifies that.

Here's another copy of the link for reference:
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/aj-r...ap-battle.html

P.S. I thought we were talking about the KRAFTWERKS kit all along, or at least in regards to it's performance potential vs. other options?!?!

 

Welcome to FitFreak gg06mr!

When we buy a Fit, I don't think most are looking to compete with Evos, 350Zs and S2000s on any level. And to compete in one discipline is a win for the little man! It's not logical as a high mileage street car. Every car mentioned was built for high performance and as a sports car. Also, each car mentioned is the highlight vehicle of their individual companies.

The Fit is an economy car, at the bottom of the Honda totem pole. So for us to compete in anyway against them, we are excited. And we will do it at 35+MPG on the way to the track!

The B-Segment Cars have their own race group, the Micro Class.
The AJ-Racing track-prepped S2000 beat their own track-prepped Fit... Of course! That's the way it should be! The S2000 (from personal work and experience with our other SC kits) has a FANTASTIC chassis, and is an amazing race car.

I'm not denying the K-Powered Fits are fast... They are very fast. We saw the Hasport K-Fit during its build, and we have worked with K-engines for a long time. K-Fits are what the Boosted L15s shoot for; they are starting with a better base engine. AJ-Racing has proved the L15 can compete and I congratulate them on their efforts!

KraftWerks kits allow anyone to have more power, with not much labor or worries. Within 6 hours, a basic mechanic can have the kit installed, running, and racing (or grocery-getting ). Tuned electronics are included, and you don't have to source any parts yourself.

We have not announced our new High-Boost kit and its pricing, but we will in the next couple months. I love this kit! It makes the Fit extremely fast, yet still stone reliable. We hope to get out on track again against the growing Micro class VERY soon!

-Oscar Jackson Jr.

 

I'm not sure what you are asking.
The base kit will be CARB-Legal.

-Oscar Jackson Jr.

 

Thanks, good to be here. I'm pleased with my purchase thus far, and I completely agree.

This seems to support my point. The Fit is without question an excellent value for the money. I wouldn't have purchased one if I didn't think so. It's just out of it's league against the likes of those previously mentioned vehicles.

Exactly. The numbers that you guys are generating out of the 1.5L is very impressive, especially on stock bottom end. Nobody will argue that. But as you obviously already know, there's a lot more performance potential to be had with the added displacement/performance technology behind the K series powertrain.

That's certainly a big selling point behind your kit(s). It took me roughly 2 weeks of effort to locate parts and get my bro-in-laws K24A2 installed and running correctly in his 92 VX hatch. I know that it would take less time to do it in a Fit, but it would still take me a lot longer than 6 hours to make it happen.

I look forward to seeing the results and performance numbers. I've got many friends who purchased JRSC kits for their B series equipped cars since back in the late 90's, so I know what kind of product you guys make. I'm sure that anyone who buys either of the kits will be very pleased with both the performance improvement, but also the retained reliability. I just hope they don't get delusions of grandeur about it.

 

man i cant wait to own a S/C FIT ...