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Old 05-07-2008, 12:55 AM
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I can't believe what I am about to say!
Sadly, present Fit was assembled in Japan and paint quality may as well be from China! '09 platypus might be worth getting for better paint quality alone, regardless where it ends up being built! My '06 Civic is 3 months older than my Fit yet it looks like it left it's Ohio assembly plant yesterday!
Crap, I can't believe I actually did it!

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Your kidding right, about being Jap assembled? lol The biggest problematic part in the Si is the transmission and guess where its built?
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I have looked at the specs of the new 09 Fit and I would rather have ours. They are making the new one with a longer and wider wheel base, and more weight. They are adding some power, but not that much. I would rather have our fit that weighs less and prob has the same power to weight ratio, which just means we will get better mpg in our fits.
The 09 looks good, but I like my 07 better.
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2007 HP 109 AT weight 2514 lbs = PWR =23.06
2009 HP 118 AT weight 2536 lbs = PWR =21.49 and the winner is....
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Your kidding right, about being Jap assembled? lol The biggest problematic part in the Si is the transmission and guess where its built?
Where is the Si trans built?
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2007 HP 109 AT weight 2514 lbs = PWR =23.06
2009 HP 118 AT weight 2536 lbs = PWR =21.49 and the winner is....
Where are these weight specs from? (I'm not doubting, just wondering 'cause I've read this somewhere else also)
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For the 2007/2008 got them from Honda's website. It's been said numerous times that the 09's have gained only 22lbs, I added that to the current model.
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Only the 3rd gear pop out/grind issue. I'm taking mine to the dealer tommorrow to get fixed under the TSB. Supposed to take about 8 hours to completely fix so getting a rental.
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For the 2007/2008 got them from Honda's website. It's been said numerous times that the 09's have gained only 22lbs, I added that to the current model.
Yes, but which Honda website? I'm thinking the 22lb increase may only pertain to the JDM fit. (The new JDM Fit being 22 lbs heavier than the old JDM Fit).

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I can't believe what I am about to say!
Sadly, present Fit was assembled in Japan and paint quality may as well be from China! '09 platypus might be worth getting for better paint quality alone,
Ivan, How do you know the '09 Platypus will have better quality paint?

BTW So far my '08 VBP paint is holding up well, even with the better part of that time one second behind a Host 18 wheeler or other suitable large BOX pull sled.

Amazing how many own knows there are now for the '09 Fit.
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Platypus genome decoded!

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Platypus genetic code unravelled

How could they miss Honda mutation still puzzles me!
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2007 HP 109 AT weight 2514 lbs = PWR =23.06
2009 HP 118 AT weight 2536 lbs = PWR =21.49 and the winner is....

what does PWR mean? power? are you insinuating that the '07 has more power? cuz that doesn't make sense.

edit: pwr = power to weight ratio

guess that makes sense. just means '07 has 1 power for every 23 lbs while the '09 has 1 power for every 21.5 lbs.

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Ivan, How do you know the '09 Platypus will have better quality paint?

BTW So far my '08 VBP paint is holding up well, even with the better part of that time one second behind a Host 18 wheeler or other suitable large BOX pull sled.

Amazing how many own knows there are now for the '09 Fit.

I don't! I am just hoping! We gave Honda so much lip about it they would be insane not to improve it! I can't believe nobody started class action law suit for it! Hmm, now there is an idea!

Listen, I do not pamper my car. It is not a garage queen. I got it for a DD, but even taking into consideration general deterioration of paint quality due to environmental laws forcing us into water based paint, this paint job is a joke! It not just gets pitted easily, but you get scratches just washing it!
I live in apartment complex where car washing is not permitted. I took my car to car washes at first. Now I take it to a coin wash where I spend over $10 ($2.50 gives you 4 min of water) to wash it myself.
I first hose off with weak stream to get loose stuff off, then switch to higher pressure. Then I use 2 mitts and a bucket to wash it by hand (one for top and mid & higher portion of the sides, front and back, then a second mitt for side skirts, front lower lip and rear back lip as well as fender well edges & wheels). Then I pressure rinse it. I do not dry it with a towel or water blade, I just drive it on the FWY and let water streak off. Then I use microfiber cloth and Mothers detailer spray to take any traces off.

As much as I hate platypus look of the '09 as well as entire exterior with stock wheels and height, the car would look awesome with some window tint, lowered and OEM wheels painted like I did with my '07's for starters.
Interior improvements (with exception of pointless quantity of cup holders! I hate current '07 & '08 seat centers and door pattern inserts in gray!) are great as well as more comfort oriented suspension geometry. It is a much better start for suspension mods. Notice rear dampers slightly raked backward? Small details that make a difference!
Rear bumper meets the rear quarter panel a lot more backward and lower on the fender well eliminating any potential issues with a mounting screw rubbing on lower offset wheel set up's as we experience with '07 and '08.
This '09 is growing on me slowly! I can't believe it is and that I am saing it, but it is!
I would not mind having '09 Milano Red Sport. I would not mind going with A/T either. I am not a teenager anymore and I will end up commuting through rush hour traffic for my next job for sure. I will also need to drive my baby in her car seat in it as well. I still have my beast of a CRX for weekend kicks on track.

Even if it is built in US, with all the improvements I would switch to '09. My breaking decision point is the paint quality!

My God some purists here will hang me high!

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ciburri- i completely understand your reasoning for wanting the '09 at this point. i myself am not a fan of it, and am not financially able to CONSIDER trading my '07.

but as the paint issues have been a big problem for me personally, it was enough for me to consider trading in my fit for an entirely different car.

if honda does NOT address the paint issues in the '09 than there is a serious problem.
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ciburri- i completely understand your reasoning for wanting the '09 at this point. i myself am not a fan of it, and am not financially able to CONSIDER trading my '07.

but as the paint issues have been a big problem for me personally, it was enough for me to consider trading in my fit for an entirely different car.

if honda does NOT address the paint issues in the '09 than there is a serious problem.

Good point and I am sure as the time goes by many might take that route! New cars from other manufacturers keep getting more interesting by the minute.
On my wild side, if '09 indeed has much better paint and in Europe they end up with a diesel option (Euro diesel Civic got 72mpg tested by Jalopnik in US!), I just might get trashed one and bring it over and do full swap! Diesel engine and eliminate platypus front end!
Lot of stars in the sky need to align up for all this to occur, though.

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I don't! I am just hoping! We gave Honda so much lip about it they would be insane not to improve it! I can't believe nobody started class action law suit for it! Hmm, now there is an idea!

Listen, I do not pamper my car. It is not a garage queen. I got it for a DD, but even taking into consideration general deterioration of paint quality due to environmental laws forcing us into water based paint, this paint job is a joke! It not just gets pitted easily, but you get scratches just washing it!
I live in apartment complex where car washing is not permitted. I took my car to car washes at first. Now I take it to a coin wash where I spend over $10 ($2.50 gives you 4 min of water) to wash it myself.
I first hose off with weak stream to get loose stuff off, then switch to higher pressure. Then I use 2 mitts and a bucket to wash it by hand (one for top and mid & higher portion of the sides, front and back, then a second mitt for side skirts, front lower lip and rear back lip as well as fender well edges & wheels). Then I pressure rinse it. I do not dry it with a towel or water blade, I just drive it on the FWY and let water streak off. Then I use microfiber cloth and Mothers detailer spray to take any traces off.

As much as I hate platypus look of the '09 as well as entire exterior with stock wheels and height, the car would look awesome with some window tint, lowered and OEM wheels painted like I did with my '07's for starters.
Interior improvements (with exception of pointless quantity of cup holders! I hate current '07 & '08 seat centers and door pattern inserts in gray!) are great as well as more comfort oriented suspension geometry. It is a much better start for suspension mods. Notice rear dampers slightly raked backward? Small details that make a difference!
Rear bumper meets the rear quarter panel a lot more backward and lower on the fender well eliminating any potential issues with a mounting screw rubbing on lower offset wheel set up's as we experience with '07 and '08.
This '09 is growing on me slowly! I can't believe it is and that I am saing it, but it is!
I would not mind having '09 Milano Red Sport. I would not mind going with A/T either. I am not a teenager anymore and I will end up commuting through rush hour traffic for my next job for sure. I will also need to drive my baby in her car seat in it as well. I still have my beast of a CRX for weekend kicks on track.

Even if it is built in US, with all the improvements I would switch to '09. My breaking decision point is the paint quality!

My God some purists here will hang me high!

Ivan
Wow im seriously shocked man I always thought you hated those new ones haha.

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Yes, but which Honda website? I'm thinking the 22lb increase may only pertain to the JDM fit. (The new JDM Fit being 22 lbs heavier than the old JDM Fit).
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what does PWR mean? power? are you insinuating that the '07 has more power? cuz that doesn't make sense.

edit: pwr = power to weight ratio

guess that makes sense. just means '07 has 1 power for every 23 lbs while the '09 has 1 power for every 21.5 lbs.
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