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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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KraftWerksUSA.com has the updated dyno graphs... but I will post them here was well.

The "Injector Package" runs used an aftermarket header, cat-delete, and full exhaust.

Stock (Red) vs Base Kit with Injector Package (Blue)



Base Kit with Stock Header, Stock Cat, Stock Exhaust (Red) vs Base Kit with Injector Package (Blue)



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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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yikes! what a big difference.
 
Old Feb 28, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Midnightfit
what does the reflash include? higher redline hopefully, does it take out the learning part of the ecu, so after time we dont lose hp, ???????? anything kraftwerks, hopefully something to improve the drive by wire????
The Hondata reflash features for the High-Boost kit have not been announced. The reflash will carry similar features to the S2000 Supercharger kit reflash, sans non-applicable parameters (VTEC, etc.).

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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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thank u so much. thats exactly what i was waiting to see That looks great! I love u guys, no homo...
 
Old Feb 28, 2008 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by REXXXXXXXXX
thank u so much. thats exactly what i was waiting to see That looks great! I love u guys, no homo...
Good use of "no homo" lol.

Oscar, thanks a million for those graphs. Thats gonna make lots of Fitters and future KWSC owners happy. Me being one of them...when the high boost comes out
 
Old Feb 28, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by REXXXXXXXXX
dam u flip-flop like john kerry!


ha ha ha! nice!


too bad i don't live in jersey, i would love to go for a spin! but i'll appreciate the reviews all the same!

and great dyno results! i'm loving the tq gains!! thanks kraftwerks! i love you!!!!













...no homo.


and now bring on the auto dyno's!!!
 

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Old Feb 28, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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What happened to all of the people interested? Everyone running out to pull their money out of the bank to preorder? lol
 
Old Feb 28, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JDMchris.com
What happened to all of the people interested? Everyone running out to pull their money out of the bank to preorder? lol
i was just about to do a kswap but i guess ill try the S/C...
 
Old Feb 28, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JDMchris.com
What happened to all of the people interested? Everyone running out to pull their money out of the bank to preorder? lol
Well atleast you know that the ones sticking around are the ones supporting , interested, and backing up this product.
 
Old Feb 28, 2008 | 08:02 PM
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Oscar,
Do you have a graph where the "injector package" is the same except it does not include a cat-delete and if you don't have this info, do you have a guess of how much loss there could be from the 144.3 max on your dyno?

Looking nice!

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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 02:05 AM
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/me jizzs all over desktop.....

>.<

I can't wait.
 
Old Feb 29, 2008 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JDMchris.com
What happened to all of the people interested? Everyone running out to pull their money out of the bank to preorder? lol

I think a lot of people, me included, became disappointed when they saw the original dyno graph. The new one brought all my interest back, although I still have four questions.

How much does the injector upgrade cost on top of the base kit?
How much will the shipping kit weigh, and where is it being shipped from (so I can calculate shipping to Canada)
Will you give heads up like you did for the miata letting us know the last day for pre-order to get the discount?
Can I pay for the full kit instead of just the pre-order?

Thanks for all the info thus far, hope I'll be one of the first to support your further R&D
 
Old Feb 29, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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Could the sudden disinterest be due to the fact that most of us who have been following anything-kraftwerks-related closely would have realized that the dyno that was posted is just the one from the last siphon mag? the only real 'new' dyno is the one comparing the base kit to the base kit with the cat-delete and injector upgrade.


i mean, i don't personally mind ANYTHING that furthers our knowledge, i'm just speculating as to what others may think.

at any rate, i really appreciated the combo-dyno of the two base kits.

What i'm really anxious to see is the base auto kit, the auto with exhaust and injector upgrade, and maybe a dyno that shows a full on exhaust mt fit, with the injector upgrade, but with the cat intact, so that we can see, (as others have mentioned) how much is being gained from the cat-delete...as well as the injectors themselves.


I really don't think anyone should be 'dissapointed'...even with the base dyno results. just with the charger alone, you are looking at a 30% increase in power, and about 30whp and 25whtq, which is huge! its just that in a world of super fast hondas, we forget what numbers really mean...and at what point high power numbers are just too much.

just keep in in perspective guys. the reliability that it brings imo, is worth it. and i don't know anything else thats giving 30whp (and the tq that comes with it) for any cheaper.
 

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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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i guess the hype slowly dies when dates are promised, and gone, and promised then gone again. It's like a strip club, where you can look and then it's just a tease.

Unless this is released really soon, along with the AT more and more people might jump on the bandwagon of disbelief.
 
Old Feb 29, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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haha, I was making a joke... I was saying that KW posted the info u wanted and it got quiet
 

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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JDMchris.com
haha, I was making a joke... I was saying that KW posted the info u wanted and it got quiet

Well, I'm still waiting on the AT version...what's the difference? Piping? Piggyback? Very curious to know.
 

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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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since i'm a little bored at work, i got a few q's.

Chris, you stated you got 155-160fwhp, and the dyno shows 145fwhp, what is the difference between the 2 to show the significante difference in whp? Litted shows the same for both, the only difference I can see maybe different brands.

What is an estimated ETA date of the release of the kit, and what is the hold up (MT and AT)?

How many wires does this Supercard/piggy back require to tap into on our ECU or is there a plug-n-play harnes similar to the HKS setup? Is it recommended to soilder all wires if it requires tapping into our wiring?

Is there any electrical mods that will conflict with this SUpercard, per say the ignition boosters, and stuff?

So the Supercard has the maps with and without upgraded injectors? or is it a different Supercard map we need to upload, or exchange?

When will the intercooler kit be released? Will it be along side the 10psi kit?

I'm interested, but i hate sitting on my hands.
 
Old Feb 29, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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while we're at it, i had a bunch of questions a few pages back that didnt get answered, so i'll copy a couple of them -
Since the engine management cannot be tuned, does that restrict our options for other upgrades, such as that WR intake mani coming out? should we be worried about A/F? I would think a/f numbers would vary greatly from one setup to the next depending on what ppl already have on their cars...

Edit: One more question - Does the kit require the bypass valve it comes with, or can i switch it out for another one or a BOV? I don't think it makes a diference, does it?
Also, im dyno-ing my car in the next week or two to get base numbers, so keep an eye out
 

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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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Are either of these not "CARB legal"?

header change.
exhaust change.

Obviously, cat-delete won't pass smog.

Upgraded injectors may or may not pass visual inspection, right?
 
Old Feb 29, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ToyotaLover
since i'm a little bored at work, i got a few q's.

Chris, you stated you got 155-160fwhp, and the dyno shows 145fwhp, what is the difference between the 2 to show the significante difference in whp? Litted shows the same for both, the only difference I can see maybe different brands.

What is an estimated ETA date of the release of the kit, and what is the hold up (MT and AT)?

How many wires does this Supercard/piggy back require to tap into on our ECU or is there a plug-n-play harnes similar to the HKS setup? Is it recommended to soilder all wires if it requires tapping into our wiring?

Is there any electrical mods that will conflict with this SUpercard, per say the ignition boosters, and stuff?

So the Supercard has the maps with and without upgraded injectors? or is it a different Supercard map we need to upload, or exchange?

When will the intercooler kit be released? Will it be along side the 10psi kit?

I'm interested, but i hate sitting on my hands.

great questions...i'm interested too!

as far as chris car goes....maybe the 160 hp was engine producing?
 



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