KraftWerks Supercharger Kits
KraftWerksUSA.com has the updated dyno graphs... but I will post them here was well.
The "Injector Package" runs used an aftermarket header, cat-delete, and full exhaust.
Stock (Red) vs Base Kit with Injector Package (Blue)

Base Kit with Stock Header, Stock Cat, Stock Exhaust (Red) vs Base Kit with Injector Package (Blue)

-OJR
The "Injector Package" runs used an aftermarket header, cat-delete, and full exhaust.
Stock (Red) vs Base Kit with Injector Package (Blue)

Base Kit with Stock Header, Stock Cat, Stock Exhaust (Red) vs Base Kit with Injector Package (Blue)

-OJR
-OJR
Oscar, thanks a million for those graphs. Thats gonna make lots of Fitters and future KWSC owners happy. Me being one of them...when the high boost comes out
ha ha ha! nice!

too bad i don't live in jersey, i would love to go for a spin! but i'll appreciate the reviews all the same!
and great dyno results! i'm loving the tq gains!! thanks kraftwerks! i love you!!!!
...no homo.

and now bring on the auto dyno's!!!
Last edited by eldaino; Feb 28, 2008 at 04:38 PM.
Oscar,
Do you have a graph where the "injector package" is the same except it does not include a cat-delete and if you don't have this info, do you have a guess of how much loss there could be from the 144.3 max on your dyno?
Looking nice!
Regards,
Martin
Do you have a graph where the "injector package" is the same except it does not include a cat-delete and if you don't have this info, do you have a guess of how much loss there could be from the 144.3 max on your dyno?
Looking nice!
Regards,
Martin
I think a lot of people, me included, became disappointed when they saw the original dyno graph. The new one brought all my interest back,
although I still have four questions.How much does the injector upgrade cost on top of the base kit?
How much will the shipping kit weigh, and where is it being shipped from (so I can calculate shipping to Canada)
Will you give heads up like you did for the miata letting us know the last day for pre-order to get the discount?
Can I pay for the full kit instead of just the pre-order?
Thanks for all the info thus far, hope I'll be one of the first to support your further R&D
Could the sudden disinterest be due to the fact that most of us who have been following anything-kraftwerks-related closely would have realized that the dyno that was posted is just the one from the last siphon mag? the only real 'new' dyno is the one comparing the base kit to the base kit with the cat-delete and injector upgrade.
i mean, i don't personally mind ANYTHING that furthers our knowledge, i'm just speculating as to what others may think.
at any rate, i really appreciated the combo-dyno of the two base kits.
What i'm really anxious to see is the base auto kit, the auto with exhaust and injector upgrade, and maybe a dyno that shows a full on exhaust mt fit, with the injector upgrade, but with the cat intact, so that we can see, (as others have mentioned) how much is being gained from the cat-delete...as well as the injectors themselves.
I really don't think anyone should be 'dissapointed'...even with the base dyno results. just with the charger alone, you are looking at a 30% increase in power, and about 30whp and 25whtq, which is huge! its just that in a world of super fast hondas, we forget what numbers really mean...and at what point high power numbers are just too much.
just keep in in perspective guys. the reliability that it brings imo, is worth it. and i don't know anything else thats giving 30whp (and the tq that comes with it) for any cheaper.
i mean, i don't personally mind ANYTHING that furthers our knowledge, i'm just speculating as to what others may think.
at any rate, i really appreciated the combo-dyno of the two base kits.
What i'm really anxious to see is the base auto kit, the auto with exhaust and injector upgrade, and maybe a dyno that shows a full on exhaust mt fit, with the injector upgrade, but with the cat intact, so that we can see, (as others have mentioned) how much is being gained from the cat-delete...as well as the injectors themselves.
I really don't think anyone should be 'dissapointed'...even with the base dyno results. just with the charger alone, you are looking at a 30% increase in power, and about 30whp and 25whtq, which is huge! its just that in a world of super fast hondas, we forget what numbers really mean...and at what point high power numbers are just too much.
just keep in in perspective guys. the reliability that it brings imo, is worth it. and i don't know anything else thats giving 30whp (and the tq that comes with it) for any cheaper.
Last edited by eldaino; Feb 29, 2008 at 10:36 AM.
i guess the hype slowly dies when dates are promised, and gone, and promised then gone again. It's like a strip club, where you can look and then it's just a tease.
Unless this is released really soon, along with the AT more and more people might jump on the bandwagon of disbelief.
Unless this is released really soon, along with the AT more and more people might jump on the bandwagon of disbelief.
since i'm a little bored at work, i got a few q's.
Chris, you stated you got 155-160fwhp, and the dyno shows 145fwhp, what is the difference between the 2 to show the significante difference in whp? Litted shows the same for both, the only difference I can see maybe different brands.
What is an estimated ETA date of the release of the kit, and what is the hold up (MT and AT)?
How many wires does this Supercard/piggy back require to tap into on our ECU or is there a plug-n-play harnes similar to the HKS setup? Is it recommended to soilder all wires if it requires tapping into our wiring?
Is there any electrical mods that will conflict with this SUpercard, per say the ignition boosters, and stuff?
So the Supercard has the maps with and without upgraded injectors? or is it a different Supercard map we need to upload, or exchange?
When will the intercooler kit be released? Will it be along side the 10psi kit?
I'm interested, but i hate sitting on my hands.
Chris, you stated you got 155-160fwhp, and the dyno shows 145fwhp, what is the difference between the 2 to show the significante difference in whp? Litted shows the same for both, the only difference I can see maybe different brands.
What is an estimated ETA date of the release of the kit, and what is the hold up (MT and AT)?
How many wires does this Supercard/piggy back require to tap into on our ECU or is there a plug-n-play harnes similar to the HKS setup? Is it recommended to soilder all wires if it requires tapping into our wiring?
Is there any electrical mods that will conflict with this SUpercard, per say the ignition boosters, and stuff?
So the Supercard has the maps with and without upgraded injectors? or is it a different Supercard map we need to upload, or exchange?
When will the intercooler kit be released? Will it be along side the 10psi kit?
I'm interested, but i hate sitting on my hands.
while we're at it, i had a bunch of questions a few pages back that didnt get answered, so i'll copy a couple of them -
Also, im dyno-ing my car in the next week or two to get base numbers, so keep an eye out
Since the engine management cannot be tuned, does that restrict our options for other upgrades, such as that WR intake mani coming out? should we be worried about A/F? I would think a/f numbers would vary greatly from one setup to the next depending on what ppl already have on their cars...
Edit: One more question - Does the kit require the bypass valve it comes with, or can i switch it out for another one or a BOV? I don't think it makes a diference, does it?
Edit: One more question - Does the kit require the bypass valve it comes with, or can i switch it out for another one or a BOV? I don't think it makes a diference, does it?
Last edited by REXXXXXXXXX; Feb 29, 2008 at 02:50 PM.
since i'm a little bored at work, i got a few q's.
Chris, you stated you got 155-160fwhp, and the dyno shows 145fwhp, what is the difference between the 2 to show the significante difference in whp? Litted shows the same for both, the only difference I can see maybe different brands.
What is an estimated ETA date of the release of the kit, and what is the hold up (MT and AT)?
How many wires does this Supercard/piggy back require to tap into on our ECU or is there a plug-n-play harnes similar to the HKS setup? Is it recommended to soilder all wires if it requires tapping into our wiring?
Is there any electrical mods that will conflict with this SUpercard, per say the ignition boosters, and stuff?
So the Supercard has the maps with and without upgraded injectors? or is it a different Supercard map we need to upload, or exchange?
When will the intercooler kit be released? Will it be along side the 10psi kit?
I'm interested, but i hate sitting on my hands.
Chris, you stated you got 155-160fwhp, and the dyno shows 145fwhp, what is the difference between the 2 to show the significante difference in whp? Litted shows the same for both, the only difference I can see maybe different brands.
What is an estimated ETA date of the release of the kit, and what is the hold up (MT and AT)?
How many wires does this Supercard/piggy back require to tap into on our ECU or is there a plug-n-play harnes similar to the HKS setup? Is it recommended to soilder all wires if it requires tapping into our wiring?
Is there any electrical mods that will conflict with this SUpercard, per say the ignition boosters, and stuff?
So the Supercard has the maps with and without upgraded injectors? or is it a different Supercard map we need to upload, or exchange?
When will the intercooler kit be released? Will it be along side the 10psi kit?
I'm interested, but i hate sitting on my hands.
great questions...i'm interested too!
as far as chris car goes....maybe the 160 hp was engine producing?



