KraftWerks Supercharger Kits
Former Vendor
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 559
From: Norco, CA
Whoa guys! Whoa! 
I am just trying to give you the most information possible, as often as we can.
Siphon vs Ours:
That dyno is NOT a re-post of the Siphon Mag. It is a fresh graph from testing. So we are showing our consistency.
Auto:
Automatic kit information will release shortly. Like I have said before, we must test to ensure that the kits work for both MT and AT flawlessly. We do things right the first time.
Header with Cat:
IIRC, the header is what produces the majority of the gains. The stock header has a HORRIBLE collector, and gains are greater once you start adding boost. I will see if I can find that graph in the files, upon files of dyno runs.
Dyno Numbers:
Like previously stated, Chris had mis-information, and had been running the Siphon setup (Base Kit with Injector Package and Header-Back exhaust)the entire time.
We are working long hours to get this product ready and out to you guys. Its a process, and I know it is time consuming. Trust me, I wish I could send them out, so I could stop getting beat up you gents.
-OJR
I am just trying to give you the most information possible, as often as we can.
Siphon vs Ours:
That dyno is NOT a re-post of the Siphon Mag. It is a fresh graph from testing. So we are showing our consistency.
Auto:
Automatic kit information will release shortly. Like I have said before, we must test to ensure that the kits work for both MT and AT flawlessly. We do things right the first time.
Header with Cat:
IIRC, the header is what produces the majority of the gains. The stock header has a HORRIBLE collector, and gains are greater once you start adding boost. I will see if I can find that graph in the files, upon files of dyno runs.
Dyno Numbers:
Like previously stated, Chris had mis-information, and had been running the Siphon setup (Base Kit with Injector Package and Header-Back exhaust)the entire time.
We are working long hours to get this product ready and out to you guys. Its a process, and I know it is time consuming. Trust me, I wish I could send them out, so I could stop getting beat up you gents.
-OJR
Former Vendor
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 559
From: Norco, CA
How much does the injector upgrade cost on top of the base kit?
How much will the shipping kit weigh, and where is it being shipped from (so I can calculate shipping to Canada)
Will you give heads up like you did for the miata letting us know the last day for pre-order to get the discount?
Can I pay for the full kit instead of just the pre-order?
Thanks for all the info thus far, hope I'll be one of the first to support your further R&D
How much will the shipping kit weigh, and where is it being shipped from (so I can calculate shipping to Canada)
Will you give heads up like you did for the miata letting us know the last day for pre-order to get the discount?
Can I pay for the full kit instead of just the pre-order?
Thanks for all the info thus far, hope I'll be one of the first to support your further R&D
2: We don't know what the final shipping weight will be yet. If I knew, I would be sending you guys kits.
3: We will give FitFreak and the Interest List a heads-up for the last week of pre-orders. We have not released the Miata product... I think you meant S2000. But yes, they have been well informed of the last pre-order day.
4: For pre-orders, we only accept the standard deposit at this time. The remaining balance of the kit will be charged before the kit ships.
And we appreciate the support!
-OJR
Former Vendor
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 559
From: Norco, CA
What is an estimated ETA date of the release of the kit, and what is the hold up (MT and AT)?
How many wires does this Supercard/piggy back require to tap into on our ECU or is there a plug-n-play harnes similar to the HKS setup? Is it recommended to soilder all wires if it requires tapping into our wiring?
Is there any electrical mods that will conflict with this SUpercard, per say the ignition boosters, and stuff?
So the Supercard has the maps with and without upgraded injectors? or is it a different Supercard map we need to upload, or exchange?
When will the intercooler kit be released? Will it be along side the 10psi kit?
I'm interested, but i hate sitting on my hands.
How many wires does this Supercard/piggy back require to tap into on our ECU or is there a plug-n-play harnes similar to the HKS setup? Is it recommended to soilder all wires if it requires tapping into our wiring?
Is there any electrical mods that will conflict with this SUpercard, per say the ignition boosters, and stuff?
So the Supercard has the maps with and without upgraded injectors? or is it a different Supercard map we need to upload, or exchange?
When will the intercooler kit be released? Will it be along side the 10psi kit?
I'm interested, but i hate sitting on my hands.
1: Estimated Ship Date is Late March for MT. We will announce if AT will be included in the Late March release, or carry its own release shortly after the MT release. By the way, we offer local pick-up.
2: The SuperCard is plug-n-play directly to the injectors. The ECU will never see the SuperCard unit, which allows the ECU to operate as normal. The SuperCard has a full injector harness, so you don't have to solder or wire anything.
3: The SuperCard should be connected to switched power according to the instructions.
4: The Injector Upgrade Package will include Injectors, Plug-n-Play Injector Clips, and revised SuperCard chip.
5: No time line has been established for the intercooler package. We have not had high intake air temperatures, even at 10 PSI! We will announce the High-Boost kit and Intercooler status in Late March/Early April. We will offer Base Kit owners the option to upgrade to the High-Boost Kit.
-OJR
Former Vendor
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 559
From: Norco, CA
Originally Posted by REXXXXXXXXX
Since the engine management cannot be tuned, does that restrict our options for other upgrades, such as that WR intake mani coming out? should we be worried about A/F? I would think a/f numbers would vary greatly from one setup to the next depending on what ppl already have on their cars...
Edit: One more question - Does the kit require the bypass valve it comes with, or can i switch it out for another one or a BOV? I don't think it makes a diference, does it?
Edit: One more question - Does the kit require the bypass valve it comes with, or can i switch it out for another one or a BOV? I don't think it makes a diference, does it?
2: Our kit uses a standard Bosch-type bypass valve. This valve is perfect for everything the Fit will be doing. We use this same valve on our 360+WHP S2000 kit.
If you would like to change valves, continue to use a bypass/diverter type valve. These valves do two things: Bypass at cruise speed for increased fuel efficiency, and blow-off excess pressure in the tubes when you chop the throttle. Blow-offs simply blow-off.
-OJR
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Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 118
From: phoenix,az
will you guys offer supercard upgrades/updates if something unforseen pops up fuel mapping wise?
*cause a few hundred kw supercharged cars on the road vs your smaller number of test cars, some random road/weather/area problem might pop up.
*cause a few hundred kw supercharged cars on the road vs your smaller number of test cars, some random road/weather/area problem might pop up.
Former Vendor
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 559
From: Norco, CA
-OJR
Good questions!
1: Estimated Ship Date is Late March for MT. We will announce if AT will be included in the Late March release, or carry its own release shortly after the MT release. By the way, we offer local pick-up.
2: The SuperCard is plug-n-play directly to the injectors. The ECU will never see the SuperCard unit, which allows the ECU to operate as normal. The SuperCard has a full injector harness, so you don't have to solder or wire anything.
3: The SuperCard should be connected to switched power according to the instructions.
4: The Injector Upgrade Package will include Injectors, Plug-n-Play Injector Clips, and revised SuperCard chip.
5: No time line has been established for the intercooler package. We have not had high intake air temperatures, even at 10 PSI! We will announce the High-Boost kit and Intercooler status in Late March/Early April. We will offer Base Kit owners the option to upgrade to the High-Boost Kit.
-OJR
1: Estimated Ship Date is Late March for MT. We will announce if AT will be included in the Late March release, or carry its own release shortly after the MT release. By the way, we offer local pick-up.
2: The SuperCard is plug-n-play directly to the injectors. The ECU will never see the SuperCard unit, which allows the ECU to operate as normal. The SuperCard has a full injector harness, so you don't have to solder or wire anything.
3: The SuperCard should be connected to switched power according to the instructions.
4: The Injector Upgrade Package will include Injectors, Plug-n-Play Injector Clips, and revised SuperCard chip.
5: No time line has been established for the intercooler package. We have not had high intake air temperatures, even at 10 PSI! We will announce the High-Boost kit and Intercooler status in Late March/Early April. We will offer Base Kit owners the option to upgrade to the High-Boost Kit.
-OJR
awesome!
ojr, thanks for all the thoughful posts, and sorry if you feel like we have been beating you up, we love you guys and all the hard work you have done!
and i didn't mean to presume about the dyno being from siphon...but it is the EXACT same numbers...and like you said, that is some major consistency!!!
Last edited by eldaino; Feb 29, 2008 at 05:57 PM.
Former Vendor
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 559
From: Norco, CA
How does the SuperCard see boost?
With an on-board pressure transducer.
So the SuperCard sees injector duty cycle output and manifold pressure. The SuperCard contains proprietary software that is able to determine proper management for all different types of conditions.
Hope this answers your question.
-OJR
Former Vendor
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 559
From: Norco, CA
awesome!
ojr, thanks for all the thoughful posts, and sorry if you feel like we have been beating you up, we love you guys and all the hard work you have done!
and i didn't mean to presume about the dyno being from siphon...but it is the EXACT same numbers...and like you said, that is some major consistency!!!
ojr, thanks for all the thoughful posts, and sorry if you feel like we have been beating you up, we love you guys and all the hard work you have done!
and i didn't mean to presume about the dyno being from siphon...but it is the EXACT same numbers...and like you said, that is some major consistency!!!
-OJR
Former Vendor
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 559
From: Norco, CA
Headers do require CARB-certification in CA, because they can affect the catalytic converter performance.
If you have a stock header and catalytic converter, with after-market exhaust, the standard Base kit will be fine. No need to upgrade the injectors.
-OJR
. Thanks for all the great info. Just a couple more weeks