T1R Turbo Kit
I did away with the turbo timer and tuning shop.. You can tune it yourself pretty easily if you've got some common sense, a laptop, and a wideband. So far for gauges I have oil pressure/temperature, manifold pressure (boost/vacuum, this one is a peak-hold + overboost alarm from prosport), and an AEM UEGO wideband. I'm pretty happy with the information I get, and I DO use them all.
Also, a turbo'd fit does NOT sound like a fart-canned honda. It sounds WAAAY deeper than before I had the kit, and I've got the A-spec muffler and Megan b-pipe. Both canister-style resonators, plus I used to have a cat. Even my (American-biased) girlfriend concurrs. She says it sounds like a sneeze LOL.
"aaaaAAAAAAAA-PSSSSSSSSHHHHHHhhhh"
Sounds like it's gonna eat your face, not like it's gonna fart on you.
Sorry about the metaphor, it's early.
Also, a turbo'd fit does NOT sound like a fart-canned honda. It sounds WAAAY deeper than before I had the kit, and I've got the A-spec muffler and Megan b-pipe. Both canister-style resonators, plus I used to have a cat. Even my (American-biased) girlfriend concurrs. She says it sounds like a sneeze LOL.
"aaaaAAAAAAAA-PSSSSSSSSHHHHHHhhhh"
Sounds like it's gonna eat your face, not like it's gonna fart on you.
Sorry about the metaphor, it's early.
is anyone running more than the set 6psi? like 8 or 10?
and in an AT, would it even be wise to try and boost 8-10psi? cuz i'm skeptical about how much more the transmission can actually hold.
i wanna push a little more hp outa my fit but i definately dont wanna blow it up.
has anyone done 1/4 mile yet? i've been doing some runs on a street that i've marked every 1/10 of a mile on( because there is nothing better to do at 3 in the morning...) and i've been getting times in the high 14's...
there isnt a real track near where i live which sucks, So if anyone has actually gone to the track lemme know plz.
and in an AT, would it even be wise to try and boost 8-10psi? cuz i'm skeptical about how much more the transmission can actually hold.
i wanna push a little more hp outa my fit but i definately dont wanna blow it up.
has anyone done 1/4 mile yet? i've been doing some runs on a street that i've marked every 1/10 of a mile on( because there is nothing better to do at 3 in the morning...) and i've been getting times in the high 14's...
there isnt a real track near where i live which sucks, So if anyone has actually gone to the track lemme know plz.
Last edited by SWRWKFS; Oct 28, 2008 at 11:05 AM.
i havent tried messing with the hondata k series map sensor because of the whole deal of having the ecu in a closed loop under 70% throttle. it wont work unless we get something more tunable. it will mess up the values and make the engine run super lean. possibly blow the motor.
i still got CEl....it still runs good..so i didn't bother trying to get rid of it.
My CEL comes and goes right now, its P0172 (System Too Rich, Bank 1). I believe this is due to my idle being too rich, I am seeing 11.6AFRs at idle.
Anyone else with the T1R kit have a rich idle? Ideas on how to fix this? I am assuming I am rich because the stock ECU is looking for a 185cc stock injector and it doesn't realize it is pulsing a 310cc injector... I've been able to get everything else to 14.7 while cruising and as close as 12.9 while in boost.
is anyone running more than the set 6psi? like 8 or 10?
and in an AT, would it even be wise to try and boost 8-10psi? cuz i'm skeptical about how much more the transmission can actually hold.
i wanna push a little more hp outa my fit but i definately dont wanna blow it up.
has anyone done 1/4 mile yet? i've been doing some runs on a street that i've marked every 1/10 of a mile on( because there is nothing better to do at 3 in the morning...) and i've been getting times in the high 14's...
there isnt a real track near where i live which sucks, So if anyone has actually gone to the track lemme know plz.
and in an AT, would it even be wise to try and boost 8-10psi? cuz i'm skeptical about how much more the transmission can actually hold.
i wanna push a little more hp outa my fit but i definately dont wanna blow it up.
has anyone done 1/4 mile yet? i've been doing some runs on a street that i've marked every 1/10 of a mile on( because there is nothing better to do at 3 in the morning...) and i've been getting times in the high 14's...
there isnt a real track near where i live which sucks, So if anyone has actually gone to the track lemme know plz.
if u have an auto fit and its only on 6 lbs, then not to sound mean but no your not.
I don't have the same CEL that you guys are getting.. I used to get the typical T1R barometric pressure sensor (boost) CEL, but the new map that I have eliminates that. I never removed the O2 Fix. I would leave that in.
My CEL comes and goes right now, its P0172 (System Too Rich, Bank 1). I believe this is due to my idle being too rich, I am seeing 11.6AFRs at idle.
Anyone else with the T1R kit have a rich idle? Ideas on how to fix this? I am assuming I am rich because the stock ECU is looking for a 185cc stock injector and it doesn't realize it is pulsing a 310cc injector... I've been able to get everything else to 14.7 while cruising and as close as 12.9 while in boost.
My CEL comes and goes right now, its P0172 (System Too Rich, Bank 1). I believe this is due to my idle being too rich, I am seeing 11.6AFRs at idle.
Anyone else with the T1R kit have a rich idle? Ideas on how to fix this? I am assuming I am rich because the stock ECU is looking for a 185cc stock injector and it doesn't realize it is pulsing a 310cc injector... I've been able to get everything else to 14.7 while cruising and as close as 12.9 while in boost.
I have 310's also and i am running -46 percent at idle. It is all a guessing game unless you are monitoring your fuel trims. Hopefully the new scangauge will show this info. short and long term fuel trims ahould be as close to zero as possible (usually +/- 10%) when the fuel trims are beyond this the ecu is working too hard to keep stoich in closed loop and you will either get a fuel system too rich or too lean code.
EDIT: wondering is the e-manage allows you to enter the injector response time? This also helps having the right value.
Last edited by leonine; Mar 23, 2009 at 08:02 PM.
Yeah I suggested he put 0 into the response time change, as that helped me lean out the idle quite a bit. Yeefit, just to see if everything is working, put something ridiculous like -80 in the fuel map at idle. See if it stalls out.
Why did you remove the 02 simulator? It's also known as a CEL eliminator, and that's all it does.
Put it back.
I then went and made the change in the Airflow Adjustment Map. I went to -80 and no change. I then went to +80 and it went super rich and almost stalled.
I'm confused..
The reason the P0172 is coming on is because your short/long term fuel trims are out of whack. Most likely because of the idle but not necessarily. You should be able to reduce the fuel based on map right? what percent are you at it should be something like -40.6 or so at idle.
I have 310's also and i am running -46 percent at idle. It is all a guessing game unless you are monitoring your fuel trims. Hopefully the new scangauge will show this info. short and long term fuel trims ahould be as close to zero as possible (usually +/- 10%) when the fuel trims are beyond this the ecu is working too hard to keep stoich in closed loop and you will either get a fuel system too rich or too lean code.
EDIT: wondering is the e-manage allows you to enter the injector response time? This also helps having the right value.
I have 310's also and i am running -46 percent at idle. It is all a guessing game unless you are monitoring your fuel trims. Hopefully the new scangauge will show this info. short and long term fuel trims ahould be as close to zero as possible (usually +/- 10%) when the fuel trims are beyond this the ecu is working too hard to keep stoich in closed loop and you will either get a fuel system too rich or too lean code.
EDIT: wondering is the e-manage allows you to enter the injector response time? This also helps having the right value.
I am set to -31.5 percent at idle, but even if I go to -80 it makes no difference.. I'm starting to wonder if my emanage is installed correctly.. or if there's something wrong with it.
The only time my car makes a difference is when I adjust the airflow adjustment map
My injector response time is set to zero. Explosivpotato recommended that I do that a little while ago, but it didn't help.
I am set to -31.5 percent at idle, but even if I go to -80 it makes no difference.. I'm starting to wonder if my emanage is installed correctly.. or if there's something wrong with it.
The only time my car makes a difference is when I adjust the airflow adjustment map
I am set to -31.5 percent at idle, but even if I go to -80 it makes no difference.. I'm starting to wonder if my emanage is installed correctly.. or if there's something wrong with it.
The only time my car makes a difference is when I adjust the airflow adjustment map
I think you should be at least -40 on the fuel map at idle. It is not registering because your fuel trims are too far gone i think. One way you can know for sure is to disconnect your battery and let it sit overnight so the ecu resets itself. Also pull the ecu relay from the under dash (it's the red one).
The next morning connect everything back up. hook up your pc so you can monitor everything and adjust the maps to -40.6 to -46 then start her up. The fuel maps will hopefully be reset to zero. The ecu will re-learn them. as the short term fuel trim reaches its pre-programmed limit it increments/decrements the LTFT. when the LTFT reaches its limit you will get the code.
P.S. I know when i disconnect the battery with the AEM i need to recalibrate the rpms and tps. Not sure if you will have to do something similar with e-manage but check it out.
yeah it's not that complicated to hit a target afr if you drive/log/adjust. But without monitoring your fuel trims your shooting in the dark. You could be code free for a month and then 1 day you get one. If your lucky over time you'll just foul your plugs(if your lucky). It's happened to me exactly like that. That's why i went to a piggyback in the first place. Hopefully the new reflash of my scangauge will show this info. I am too broke to get another scan tool that shows it.
Check your plugs they are probably black.
EDIT:
Here's a pic of my fuel map. May or may not be useful. Our setups are like apples and oranges i'm sure but maybe it will help. I'm still adjusting.
Check your plugs they are probably black.
EDIT:
Here's a pic of my fuel map. May or may not be useful. Our setups are like apples and oranges i'm sure but maybe it will help. I'm still adjusting.
Last edited by leonine; Mar 23, 2009 at 11:14 PM.



