Sounds... sound. lol. I'll get the exact size of the rotor and try find the part number for the caliper later this week. I'll post up my findings.

Thanks

 

I've read this whole thread & one question wasn't answer that I saw. Someone mentioned shaving the calipers to fit the stock 15" sport rims on the big brake kit. Will that work? I would like to try this kit w/o the spacer or rim change at the moment.

 

This mod is unnecessary unless you're tracking your car.

Just get better pads if you want something that easy.

 

One thing i've always felt was necessary with my honda's in the past was upgrading braking power & suspension regardless of power. Makes the car so much more fun to drive and you feel more secure w/ your car knowing it stops way better.

Better pads, rotors, & ss lines will def give you a better feel but i'm sure this size upgrade w/ better pads & lines is just fantastic. From the pic shown w/ the stock 15" sport rim, its barely scraped. Thinking you would barely have to shave the caliper. This shouldn't do anything to the integrity of the caliper I would think. Has anyone tried?

Plus i plan to k swap late next year so this upgrade will be a most then.

 

I have not tried it (machining the caliper, shaving is what I do in the shower)…I’ve posted what I’ve done…

Things to keep in mind…the thicker the material (in the caliper and the bracket) the better the feel of the brakes. Machining off material will only make it less stiff…not a good idea in brake feel.

I needed to replace the center section of the discs and StopTech changed the design…it no longer fits our installation. To use the StopTech new design will require a 4-mm wheel spacer and not a 3-mm.

 

Suggestions for performance street pads that will fit a 2011 FIT sport will be appreciated,,neither HAWK or EBC have a straight answer.thanks JJ

 

First of all, I will repeat what I’ve stated before…I got 3 sets of front rotors under warranty for pulsating and vibration under braking do to disc thickness variation (incorrectly called warped discs). I’m pretty aggressive on my brakes…as the Honda dealer can attest to. OEM discs and pads.

Part two. All your brakes do is convert kinetic energy into heat. If I would have just changed out my brake pads (with a higher coefficient of friction) all I would do is potentially stop faster and therefore heat up my discs faster. I’ve already got a heat problem! My discs are already overheating as seen in the thickness variation! Stopping faster means converting kinetic energy into heat faster and therefore accentuating the already minimal OEM design. Be that as it may, I was still kicking in the ABS regularly…

Part three. Your disc is the ONLY component of your whole braking system that dissipates heat.

Part four. Even on your OEM car, the tires will dictate how fast you can stop. Your rubber dictates the performance of your car…including stopping distance. This is where the rubber hits the road… You want to stop faster? Get better tires. You want your car to handle better? Get better tires! If you are going to stop repeatedly hard (i.e. Track day, auto-cross, mountain roads, etc.), get bigger discs.

Part five. I don’t use high performance brake pads…1. They destroy your discs. You will have to replace your discs every time you change your pads…higher coefficient of friction…something’s got to give. And 2. They make so much black dust that your wheels will always look dirty…I used to do that, now I only use ceramic pads. They hardly make any dust at all; I can go through at least two sets of pads (most of the time three sets of pads) before having to replace the discs and there is a negligible braking performance or feel change.

 

Yeah I remember having AXXIS pads back in the day & they were really harsh. I switched to those Performance Friction carbon-metallic pads at autozone (i use to work there at the time) & those worked really well. Not a lot of break dust & stopped good. Plus they were lifetime warranty. I would use those again or go w/ a nice higher end ceramic pad.

 

Good one,BUT, as I am well aware of part one and two,and have dealt with it replacing rotors along with pads on a regular basis, there is also the issue of brake fluid boiling point and brake line expansion.I deal with that using a better performing brake fluid and steel braided lines.Good tires,, yes, that is a given, up to a certain point,when the brakes start to fade and the fluid boils no tire will get you out of that one.I am more than willing to sacrifice rotors as long as I can count on one to four good stops.This is my fifth Honda, the previous ones all Accords and have used performance street pads on all, and synthetic brake fluid with steel braided lines on the last one,2004 Accord Coupe 6cyl 6spd which made a big difference even using Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 tires which are great, but expensive. Dust ? really don't mind it, as long as I can count on better than stock stopping power. JJ(22mm rear sway bar and Tokiko shocks helped a lot with the handling)

 

Do you now if they still have those performance carbon metallic for 2nd gen. FIT ? thanks, JJ

 

Just checked there website. Nothing for either GD or GE. Bummer.

 

Don't get it ,FIT's are selling more than ever,guess it is a matter of time,thanks man. JJ

 

You would think they would have it just the fact its a Honda too. They are def out there too.

 

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Originally Posted by jjsifo

Good one,BUT, as I am well aware of part one and two,and have dealt with it replacing rotors along with pads on a regular basis, there is also the issue of brake fluid boiling point and brake line expansion.I deal with that using a better performing brake fluid and steel braided lines.Good tires,, yes, that is a given, up to a certain point,when the brakes start to fade and the fluid boils no tire will get you out of that one.I am more than willing to sacrifice rotors as long as I can count on one to four good stops.This is my fifth Honda, the previous ones all Accords and have used performance street pads on all, and synthetic brake fluid with steel braided lines on the last one,2004 Accord Coupe 6cyl 6spd which made a big difference even using Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 tires which are great, but expensive. Dust ? really don't mind it, as long as I can count on better than stock stopping power. JJ (22mm rear sway bar and Tokiko shocks helped a lot with the handling)

No…you are NOT aware of my second point or you just can’t grasp it. Now just think about it…as a general rule, metals are good conductors of heat and composites are not. In fact, composites make pretty good insulators. ALL of the heat…did you hear that? ALL of the heat in the braking system is generated on the disc surface and the brake pads insulate it and keep it there. If your disc is a big enough heatsink, you won’t have the brake fluid boiling problem, etc. You don’t have the heat buildup! I can run water instead of brake fluid (joking here…but not really) in my brake system without any problems.

Stainless brake lines have nothing to do with stopping power or heat. I have stainless lines on my cars for the brake feel. I hate a mushy pedal…

Brake fade is a direct result of too much heat…the pads start to outgas and create a cushion of gas between the disc and the pads. How do you get rid of heat? You installed larger discs…no heat buildup, no brake fade. You are beginning to catch on here?

I used to run Pilot Exalto 2s now I’ve upgraded to Pilot Super Sports.

 

Yes,yes,yes I am aware of the second part and I grasped it,,,only solution there is bigger rotors,calipers and pads,in fact if that were the case I would not need better pads at all,that big heat sink,(the bigger rotors) dealing with the lower weight of the FIT ,would take care of the problem,period. The outgas part ,yes I understand it,,that is one reason I try to keep my foot off the brake pedal when the car is not moving, to help it dissipate gas and help avoid rendering the pads and rotors (those big round blue spots) useless even if they are only a few hundred miles old,I have seen ruined pads, shiny crystal like surface because of all that excessive heat & gas build up.I know it is all a heat dissipation problem inherent to almost every stock car not made for a few laps of Autocross Racing,which was very popular back in the 70's and later early 90's ,,think they now call it Solo 1. The steel braided lines and high boiling point fluid is just a very partial and short term remedy to help retard the inevitable mushy brakes after a 1 to 3 minute F1 like stint, but it does help in daily driving,,I simply hate mushy brakes.So ,the only real solution here ,and I agree with you completely ,is a bigger heat sink, therefore ,a big brake kit with a much bigger and better designed rotor,, which is very expensive but does help.In the meantime every little improvement helps,,always having in mind its limitations. I remember back in the Autocross days we were not allowed to alter brake hardware,except for better pads,still it would only help for a couple laps,after that, heat would take it's toll.JJ Interesting topic, thanks for the challenge. JJ

 

This is a very iterating conversation I might say. Learning some new things here. Bump Bump for the knowledge.

 

Yeah, you are right, no more of this, everybody has a particular point of view. JJ

 

HAHAHAHA I actually meant to say "interesting". HAhaha I just switch to a MAC & the auto correct thing gets me every time. But that is pretty funny. I did enjoy this conversation. Got some good insight to things.

 

Better set things straight with your MAC, you just said you did not enjoy the conversation,but got some good insights???????????????

 

Yeah totally saw that. Haha yep, corrected. Anyways continue on everyone.

What brake pads are people using?