Here is the table again from post 59...If you install the FastBrake discs, you need to machine the calipers...then you must use the FastBrake discs. Good thing that they don't need to be replaced often, but I like to use "standard" parts if I can.

 

Jodele, did you ever upgrade your T1R rear kit? I've had mine on for 6 months now and they are making horrible noise. I would like to get some discs that don't require a hubcentric ring, and maybe get some pads that wipe the whole disc. Thanks for your help, you've definitely have a lot of knowledge on these issues.

 

Yes I did...and I am very happy with them.

Zeckhausen Racing

these discs do NOT need the concentric ring and are of much better quality than the ones shipped with the T1R kit.

But your noise is from your pads. if you replace your pads, I bet you a beer that the noise will go away. Therefore, if you just replace the discs, I bet the noise will still be there. I replaced my rear discs, because I wanted them to match my from slotted discs. More bling than anything else. It does look nice.

As for the pads wiping the whole disc surface, it will not happen. That is the way T1R designed the bracket. You've got to live with that one. Not very well designed as far as that one goes. AND I don't like that the rear brakes can not be bead insitue...see my albums on how to bleed the T1R rear disc conversion brakes. I still have them on my car and I don't plan to change them out any time soon...I'm living with those shortcommings.

 

Any idea as to what car these rotors are from? I'm guessing its probably just another Honda/Acura rotor just redrilled to 4x100. It would be nice to know so that for the future, we are not limited to just the fastbrakes rotors....

 

Yup...they are a specialty item...they are specially made for NON-Type-R Integras to install Type-R calipers.

Wrong! Save your guessing for the casinos...See above answer.

No need for the future...there are three choices available right now...read the whole post.

 

Thanks for your response....

So dimension wise (aside from bolt pattern), how are these different than say... rotors from a Prelude or Accord?

I am aware that there are the Stoptech and Fastbrake rotors available in plain, slotted/drilled, as well as 2pcs. However, say for whatever reasons fastbrakes stop selling these rotors, are we SOL and have to get the expensive stoptech rotors? I'm hoping we can have the option of going with Brembo blanks for like 60bucks each and have them redrilled.

I hope you see where I'm coming from with trying to find out if there are more alternatives for rotors

 

I did this mod over a year ago...my information is 1-year old at best. At that time, this was the best information. Others have contributed to this post with their findings and our combined efforts are in this thread. I highly recommend not using the fastbrakes discs and calipers because you can ONLY use their discs once you have machined the stock Type-R calipers. It’s cheap, but you get what you pay for. If you use the StopTech or the Spoon discs, you can use either the stock Type-R calipers or the ideal Nissin aluminum calipers that Spoon sells. I wish I had the money to buy those calipers!

Go do some research and share your findings with the rest of us…we like to be informed! Like I said earlier, my information is at least a year old already…what you find will be new information. I did my research and modded my car…then I shared my finding with the rest of us FitFreaks…contribute to the blog…welcome aboard!

 

Spoon stated the "42510-4H1014" rotor as 14 inch:
Spoon 14" Brake Rotor
Spoon Conversion: 14 Brake Rotor Rear | Tougedistribution.com | JDM Parts direct from Japan! HKS, Tomei, Endless, Power House Amuse, Project Mu and more!

So it would be a diameter of 356mm ?!

Are you sure that a caliper that is normally used for a 14 inch rotor fits to a 282mm rotor?

And to create more confusion:
Twin Caliper Set - Pair
This means even the 14 inch rotors won't fit to the Twin Block Caliper. 15 inch (381mm) is required?!

 

NO! 282-mm...All discs in this thread are 282-mm in diameter. Most are 23-mm thick, the StopTech ones are 25-mm thick.

The rest is moot...no confusion, no errors.

The error is on SpoonSport's website. they wrote 15" discs - they ment to say for 15" wheels...lost in the translation I guess.

 

These are the correct calipers! These are the ones that I aspire to get one day…these are THE best! There is one big but for these though. Since there are pistons on both sides of the disc, they are much thicker. If you use any Honda made wheel, they will have to be spaced out to clear the caliper. I understand that 7-mm spacers will have to be used. If you buy aftermarket wheels, the wheel spoke design may allow clearance for the calipers where no spacer would be required. You could mount the wheel to the original stock wheel studs without any spacers.

If you go with these calipers, tell us which wheels you bought and if they fit over these calipers.

 

>The error is on SpoonSport's website
Ah ok, and every dealer copied the wrong text ^^

>wheel spacer
For understanding:
Isn't the wheel spacer needed to optimize the rotor position between the two pads? Many people here said, that they didn't need them, but isn't it dangerous?

>rims
I want to buy Volk Racing CE28N in 15x6 with 35 offset. But they can't be delivered this year

A smaller offset is not available. So I hope it fits without extra "distance plate".

>rotor weight
as before this is the main problem. You said the zeckhausen have the nearly the same weight. But they are bigger, so you have a little disadvantage in rotating mass / Moment of inertia.

 

Again, no…

The discs mount directly to the hub and the caliper directly to the mounting ears. The spacers used (all mentioned here) are placed over the disc (that is, the disc goes on first, then spacer) to make clearance for the larger caliper and the wheel.

 

You are not reading these posts…you are asking very rooky questions.

Now read this very carefully! Offset/back spacing has NOTHING to do with the clearance needed for the caliper. All offset does is locate the center of the wheel/tire to the mounting face of the hub. You need clearance to the spokes of the wheel. Get the correct offset or you will destroy the handling of the car. Some people like the wheels sticking out kind of style and are willing to sacrifice the handling of the car to accomplish that, but I don’t and do NOT recommend this!
Look at my profile…I have albums there with drawings of back spacing. Lots of good information there…

 

Ok understood. "wheel spacer" means the same what I've called "distance plate".

If you know a lighter alternative to StopTech rotor than I'll go with spoon calipers.

StopTech has 282x25mm only (no 282x23mm found on their website). I've send an enquiry to Endless, Tarox and Brembo. Maybe they have something.

 

If you are going to be asking other manufacturers for “special” discs, the question you have to ask them is, “Do you have discs for Non-Type-R Integras to install Type-R calipers?” This will then be a direct bolt-on configuration.

The discs are larger; you have to pay the price someplace! The StopTech discs are floating discs with an aluminum center that is why they weigh as little as the stock, smaller discs. Brembo might make something like that…I doubt anybody else would.

A lighter wheel will more than compensate for the miniscule increase in inertia for the larger disc…

 

Added NOTE:

If the design of the wheel has very flat spokes like an OEM Honda wheel, you can use wheel spacers to compensate for the design…so, if you are going to install 7” wide 16” wheels, the ideal offset is 40-mm to 43-mm. Now if you were to install the SpoonSport calipers, you would get wheels with a 47-mm to 50-mm offset and install a 7-mm wheel spacer. That way, all your suspension geometry will still be good and you will be able to get these big calipers behind them. Most aftermarket wheel manufacturers claim to have lots of space for large calipers, so get the ideal setup. If at all possible, do NOT use wheel spacers. This is the cheap, backyard way of doing things. Do not do this. I’m just trying to explain how back spacing would be used.

 

Sticking out is not allowed in my country. I've understood the clearance thing, now.

 

Possible alternative to Spoon and StopTech should be EPC MG ZR rotors:
MG ZR Performace Parts, Tuning Parts And Styling Accessories

price range:
$120 - $202,- (oem, slotted/drilled)


I've asked our local D2 brake dealer. He compared the metrics and he says they should fit, too. No option for me as they are not two-part, but maybe it helps others.

 

Any updates on a GE8 conversion?

 

I'm sorry to ask again. I found two different Twin Block Calipers:
Touge Search Results: spoon caliper

Which is the correct one?