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Old Jul 28, 2014 | 03:34 PM
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Is it hanging down like that or are you pulling it down in the picture? Either way, this variety of little things makes me think Honda's definitely still working out the kinks at this new factory.
 
Old Jul 28, 2014 | 05:22 PM
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Is it hanging down like that or are you pulling it down in the picture? Either way, this variety of little things makes me think Honda's definitely still working out the kinks at this new factory.
Pulling on it to show that it's not attached. Pulling everywhere else on seals doesn't allow it to separate from the metal. It looks (and feels if you don't tug on it) fine, but I was trying to find where water was getting in.
 
Old Jul 29, 2014 | 01:19 AM
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Can someone share a pic of how the door seal should look for comparison purposes please?
 
Old Jul 29, 2014 | 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by BMO
Here's a pic:
Nooooooo!


Originally Posted by geminigold
So far, both visors fell off on our 2015 Honda Fit. Aside from that, nothing bad after 2 weeks.........
WTF!!


I have nothing constructive to add! Does make me wonder about the internal reliability though (Earth Dreams Direct Injection, CVT Transmission). I mean, if they aren't getting the hardware right, what about the CVT belts or the D.I. engine with it's high compression. Long term.....

Yeah, first year model at a new plant (Mexico), new engine (Earth Dreams Direct Injection), New Transmission (CVT). Maybe this is just a little too much New......
Surprised I'm not reading more about the engine and tranny areas.
 

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Old Jul 29, 2014 | 10:38 AM
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I also have a gap in the steering wheel, on the bottom AND the left. It is about 2mm all the way around.

So a not-really-an-update, the parts have still not arrived.
 
Old Jul 29, 2014 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Myxalplyx
Nooooooo!




WTF!!


I have nothing constructive to add! Does make me wonder about the internal reliability though (Earth Dreams Direct Injection, CVT Transmission). I mean, if they aren't getting the hardware right, what about the CVT belts or the D.I. engine with it's high compression. Long term.....

Yeah, first year model at a new plant (Mexico), new engine (Earth Dreams Direct Injection), New Transmission (CVT). Maybe this is just a little too much New......
Surprised I'm not reading more about the engine and tranny areas.
The engine has been out in japan before the US, same with tranny. The accord has had DI for a year as well. We would have heard by now, some accords have 70000 miles on them. I realize it's a different car, but same technology, cvt and DI. I got manual anyways. I'm loving the car! Just drove through a major storm today, no water. I'll check again later to make sure, and I had the same loose seal.
 
Old Jul 29, 2014 | 08:42 PM
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The engine has been out in japan before the US, same with tranny. The accord has had DI for a year as well. We would have heard by now, some accords have 70000 miles on them. I realize it's a different car, but same technology, cvt and DI. I got manual anyways. I'm loving the car! Just drove through a major storm today, no water. I'll check again later to make sure, and I had the same loose seal.
So you are saying the whole car is not put together in Mexico. The engine and tranny is shipped there already assembled, only to be installed? The only issues to be concerned about is the hardware, which is put together in Mexico?

I ask because I don't know.
 
Old Jul 29, 2014 | 08:47 PM
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So you are saying the whole car is not put together in Mexico. The engine and tranny is shipped there already assembled, only to be installed? The only issues to be concerned about is the hardware, which is put together in Mexico?

I ask because I don't know.

The CVT plant in Mexico isn't going to be ready until next year, so yes, the existing plant is doing primarily assembly with those major components being built in Japan.

Also, the factory is state-of-the-art with a few new innovations in paint and assembly which were designed to be more efficient. It sounds like some people have this idea that the entire vehicle is being tooled up by hand and that's not really accurate as it uses robots and other modern automations.
 

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Old Jul 29, 2014 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gunm
The CVT plant in Mexico isn't going to be ready until next year, so yes, the existing plant is doing primarily assembly with those major components being built in Japan.
That being said, maybe THIS is the year to get the Fit rather than 2016. I'd rather have hardware issues than looking pretty on the side of the road with a bad tranny.
 
Old Jul 29, 2014 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Myxalplyx
So you are saying the whole car is not put together in Mexico. The engine and tranny is shipped there already assembled, only to be installed? The only issues to be concerned about is the hardware, which is put together in Mexico?

I ask because I don't know.
My comment only means that the technology has been available in japan for a year, and the accord DI for two years I believe. I believe either the tranny's or engines are Philippines, I forget which exactly.

I will say that I like the car, it has some pep! Just broke it in, now giving it some gas, and it's awesome! I am coming from a ford ranger, though, and this car weighs half that.
 
Old Jul 30, 2014 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by gunm
...Also, the factory is state-of-the-art with a few new innovations in paint and assembly which were designed to be more efficient. It sounds like some people have this idea that the entire vehicle is being tooled up by hand and that's not really accurate as it uses robots and other modern automations.
From an Autonews.com article, quoting a representative of Honda:

Honda declined to give even a general description of which parts didn't measure up "because we don't need our competitors doing tear-downs to our cars," Martin said. But he noted that the Celaya plant relies more on manpower than the Fit "mother" plant in Yorii, Japan, which uses more robotics.
That doesn't sound like "state of the art" to me.
 
Old Jul 30, 2014 | 07:28 AM
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I just got back from a dealer and have some information about Fit quality issues. Honda corporate support told the dealer to replace my entire touchscreen head unit because of the YouTube video I posted of the LaneWatch glitch where it showed the rear camera. So Honda is aware of this issue, and said they did not need to perform any diagnostics on my car, and are instead choosing to replace a very expensive part.

I also asked the service manager about the gap in my steering wheel grille. He said it was just "fit and finish" from the manufacturing and that Honda does not consider it an issue. He said the entire wheel would have to be replaced, they can't just take apart the wheel and slide the grille to be centered. We both looked at the one Fit they had in stock and it also had a similar gap. I keep mentioning to these Honda people that the Fit in the brochure and the website looks perfect, so I would expect my steering wheel to look the same, but they all say it is normal for the steering wheels to have variations. I was told that because the Fit is mass produced that they would have variations, which makes no sense because mass produced products would go through the same process and mass production typically indicates products are identical. If each Fit was built to order then that would introduce variations. The service manager said he did not even consider the gap in the plastic to be a gap. I guess I'll just have to deal with it. Not a big deal.
 

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Old Jul 30, 2014 | 08:44 AM
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Mine has a very minute gap but there is one. Not sure you could pass a needle through it though.
 
Old Jul 30, 2014 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by simonx314
I just got back from a dealer and have some information about Fit quality issues. Honda corporate support told the dealer to replace my entire touchscreen head unit because of the YouTube video I posted of the LaneWatch glitch where it showed the rear camera. So Honda is aware of this issue, and said they did not need to perform any diagnostics on my car, and are instead choosing to replace a very expensive part.
I forsee a lot of people taking to YouTube with their warranty issues!

I wonder if Honda decided to replace the head unit quickly and without making you jump through hoops because it was the right thing to do or because of the negative publicity?

Regarding the steering wheel, it is a tiny issue, but if Honda is going to produce these "Star Trek" looking parts they should at least do it correctly. Little things like this make a car look shabby before its time.
 
Old Jul 30, 2014 | 03:41 PM
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I forsee a lot of people taking to YouTube with their warranty issues!

I wonder if Honda decided to replace the head unit quickly and without making you jump through hoops because it was the right thing to do or because of the negative publicity?

Regarding the steering wheel, it is a tiny issue, but if Honda is going to produce these "Star Trek" looking parts they should at least do it correctly. Little things like this make a car look shabby before its time.
I recommend tweeting HondaCustSvc to get Honda's attention.

I wasn't trying to pressure Honda by posting the YouTube video, I more wanted them to see it in case their engineers were not yet aware of the issue. It might be the only photographic evidence of it actually occurring so I wanted to share it, because most people don't drive with a video camera, and it was only on the display for a few seconds.

I emailed my dealer three times about the video, encouraging them to share it with Honda technical support, and they ignored all my emails. So finally I tweeted HondaCustSvc and got an immediate response, which led to corporate calling me and setting up a repair. Below is what I tweeted to Honda:

 
Old Jul 30, 2014 | 04:12 PM
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I emailed my dealer three times about the video, encouraging them to share it with Honda technical support, and they ignored all my emails. So finally I tweeted HondaCustSvc and got an immediate response...
Please make sure that you tell Honda Customer Service about this lack of response from your dealer! Somebody needs to hold their feet to the fire.
 
Old Jul 30, 2014 | 04:20 PM
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Please make sure that you tell Honda Customer Service about this lack of response from your dealer! Somebody needs to hold their feet to the fire.
Ya seriously. Honda's twitter account at first just told me to work with my dealer. When I told them that my dealer ignored my three emails and one phone call then corporate support started working with me directly. Support is calling me back soon to let me know when the new head unit will arrive, so I will ask them what was the deal with the lack of support I got from Laurel Honda, and maybe encourage them to burn their feet a little.
 
Old Jul 30, 2014 | 06:06 PM
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I also have a gap in the steering wheel, on the bottom AND the left. It is about 2mm all the way around.

So a not-really-an-update, the parts have still not arrived.
Can you send me a picture of your steering wheel grille gap?

Are everyone else's perfectly centered? I'm worried it will collect grime. It kind of defeats the purpose of adding a decorative plastic grille if they aren't even going to make it look good.

Sorry to keep bringing up this minor thing, but Honda should stop manufacturing these cosmetic defects.
 
Old Jul 30, 2014 | 06:38 PM
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Can you send me a picture of your steering wheel grille gap?

Are everyone else's perfectly centered? I'm worried it will collect grime. It kind of defeats the purpose of adding a decorative plastic grille if they aren't even going to make it look good.

Sorry to keep bringing up this minor thing, but Honda should stop manufacturing these cosmetic defects.
Just checked mine, and its centered, no gaps at all. Rubber seals are good and no out of alignment on doors panels. I did a complete look at my new vehicle at the dealership before accepting the car or signing any papers. Thought everyone would but I guess some were too much in a hurry
 
Old Jul 30, 2014 | 09:51 PM
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My dealer will be detailing all of my alloys, especially the one with a metal burr protruding. I also found some yellow marks below the clear coat on the rear quarter panel that they will be having a body shop correct.

Love the car otherwise.

Jason
 



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