WTF is up with all the ricers!!
#165
01-11-2011, 01:46 PM
lol
#168
01-11-2011, 02:44 PM
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 4,424
That is not even in the same ball park as what chinese companies do to groups like Shearer, TiAl, Full-Race, etc.
The mark up on a set of Spoon SW388s or some Volk TE37s is absurd, and its because we have kids that will just get their parents to write a check or the d-bags in the Supra/M3/GTR crowds that we even have these prices.
We are talking about a metal disc with a few holes in it.
If my Slips are good enough for a 9 sec drag car, or a circuit team with pockets deep enough for LeMans/Formula aero kits, they are certainly good enough for a $17k Fit.
Not everybody is stupid enough to drop 500/each on some wheels that cost maybe $200 to design, make and distribute all 4 when you have the volume sales they do on.
This is apples to kumquats when you are comparing a rim knock off to a SMIM knockoff, v-band turbine housings or a tubular ramhorn divided T4 manifold which are competitively priced, made from very expensive materials with months to years of R&D.
Save your hate for something that makes sense.
Volk, Spoon et al. need the competition in the wheel arena. Fuck em. Their prices are astronomically disproportionate to their costs.
If you want some nice light authentic wheels, and you feel like paying $1000 or more, save yourself at least $120 and get some motegi track lights.
I can get a $10k 5speed PPG or PAR DogBox trans for my AWD, yet you expect people to pony up $2k for some wheels?
It's only because we have dumb fucks who will pay that price that they can rape us on the margin that badly.
Again, fuck em, they badly need the competition and a reality check.
Last edited by DiamondStarMonsters; 01-11-2011 at 02:49 PM.
#169
01-11-2011, 03:05 PM
That is not even in the same ball park as what chinese companies do to groups like Shearer, TiAl, Full-Race, etc.
The mark up on a set of Spoon SW388s or some Volk TE37s is absurd, and its because we have kids that will just get their parents to write a check or the d-bags in the Supra/M3/GTR crowds that we even have these prices.
We are talking about a metal disc with a few holes in it.
If my Slips are good enough for a 9 sec drag car, or a circuit team with pockets deep enough for LeMans/Formula aero kits, they are certainly good enough for a $17k Fit.
Not everybody is stupid enough to drop 500/each on some wheels that cost maybe $200 to design, make and distribute all 4 when you have the volume sales they do on.
This is apples to kumquats when you are comparing a rim knock off to a SMIM knockoff, v-band turbine housings or a tubular ramhorn divided T4 manifold which are competitively priced, made from very expensive materials with months to years of R&D.
Save your hate for something that makes sense.
Volk, Spoon et al. need the competition in the wheel arena. Fuck em. Their prices are astronomically disproportionate to their costs.
If you want some nice light authentic wheels, and you feel like paying $1000 or more, save yourself at least $120 and get some motegi track lights.
I can get a $10k 5speed PPG or PAR DogBox trans for my AWD, yet you expect people to pony up $2k for some wheels?
It's only because we have dumb fucks who will pay that price that they can rape us on the margin that badly.
Again, fuck em, they badly need the competition and a reality check.
The mark up on a set of Spoon SW388s or some Volk TE37s is absurd, and its because we have kids that will just get their parents to write a check or the d-bags in the Supra/M3/GTR crowds that we even have these prices.
We are talking about a metal disc with a few holes in it.
If my Slips are good enough for a 9 sec drag car, or a circuit team with pockets deep enough for LeMans/Formula aero kits, they are certainly good enough for a $17k Fit.
Not everybody is stupid enough to drop 500/each on some wheels that cost maybe $200 to design, make and distribute all 4 when you have the volume sales they do on.
This is apples to kumquats when you are comparing a rim knock off to a SMIM knockoff, v-band turbine housings or a tubular ramhorn divided T4 manifold which are competitively priced, made from very expensive materials with months to years of R&D.
Save your hate for something that makes sense.
Volk, Spoon et al. need the competition in the wheel arena. Fuck em. Their prices are astronomically disproportionate to their costs.
If you want some nice light authentic wheels, and you feel like paying $1000 or more, save yourself at least $120 and get some motegi track lights.
I can get a $10k 5speed PPG or PAR DogBox trans for my AWD, yet you expect people to pony up $2k for some wheels?
It's only because we have dumb fucks who will pay that price that they can rape us on the margin that badly.
Again, fuck em, they badly need the competition and a reality check.
#170
01-11-2011, 03:15 PM
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 4,424
You are talking to a guy who has a custom hotside and a race cover on the compressor side (S300 comp cover on a S200 family wheel) on a $1300 turbo in a Land Speed and Standing Mile car.. Which is what I'd rather focus my time and efforts on, instead of playing pawn shop to get parts.
It's only because we have dumb fucks who will pay that price that they can rape us on the margin that badly.
Again, fuck em, they badly need the competition and a reality check.
Again, fuck em, they badly need the competition and a reality check.
Last edited by DiamondStarMonsters; 01-11-2011 at 03:23 PM.
#171
01-11-2011, 03:16 PM
That is not even in the same ball park as what chinese companies do to groups like Shearer, TiAl, Full-Race, etc.
The mark up on a set of Spoon SW388s or some Volk TE37s is absurd, and its because we have kids that will just get their parents to write a check or the d-bags in the Supra/M3/GTR crowds that we even have these prices.
We are talking about a metal disc with a few holes in it.
If my Slips are good enough for a 9 sec drag car, or a circuit team with pockets deep enough for LeMans/Formula aero kits, they are certainly good enough for a $17k Fit.
Not everybody is stupid enough to drop 500/each on some wheels that cost maybe $200 to design, make and distribute all 4 when you have the volume sales they do on.
This is apples to kumquats when you are comparing a rim knock off to a SMIM knockoff, v-band turbine housings or a tubular ramhorn divided T4 manifold which are competitively priced, made from very expensive materials with months to years of R&D.
Save your hate for something that makes sense.
Volk, Spoon et al. need the competition in the wheel arena. Fuck em. Their prices are astronomically disproportionate to their costs.
If you want some nice light authentic wheels, and you feel like paying $1000 or more, save yourself at least $120 and get some motegi track lights.
I can get a $10k 5speed PPG or PAR DogBox trans for my AWD, yet you expect people to pony up $2k for some wheels?
It's only because we have dumb fucks who will pay that price that they can rape us on the margin that badly.
Again, fuck em, they badly need the competition and a reality check.
The mark up on a set of Spoon SW388s or some Volk TE37s is absurd, and its because we have kids that will just get their parents to write a check or the d-bags in the Supra/M3/GTR crowds that we even have these prices.
We are talking about a metal disc with a few holes in it.
If my Slips are good enough for a 9 sec drag car, or a circuit team with pockets deep enough for LeMans/Formula aero kits, they are certainly good enough for a $17k Fit.
Not everybody is stupid enough to drop 500/each on some wheels that cost maybe $200 to design, make and distribute all 4 when you have the volume sales they do on.
This is apples to kumquats when you are comparing a rim knock off to a SMIM knockoff, v-band turbine housings or a tubular ramhorn divided T4 manifold which are competitively priced, made from very expensive materials with months to years of R&D.
Save your hate for something that makes sense.
Volk, Spoon et al. need the competition in the wheel arena. Fuck em. Their prices are astronomically disproportionate to their costs.
If you want some nice light authentic wheels, and you feel like paying $1000 or more, save yourself at least $120 and get some motegi track lights.
I can get a $10k 5speed PPG or PAR DogBox trans for my AWD, yet you expect people to pony up $2k for some wheels?
It's only because we have dumb fucks who will pay that price that they can rape us on the margin that badly.
Again, fuck em, they badly need the competition and a reality check.
#174
01-11-2011, 04:15 PM
Way to completely miss the goddamn point. Any jackass can hustle parts to afford one expensive piece. As far as playing with the big boys? What the fuck are you talking about?
You are talking to a guy who has a custom hotside and a race cover on the compressor side (S300 comp cover on a S200 family wheel) on a $1300 turbo in a Land Speed and Standing Mile car.. Which is what I'd rather focus my time and efforts on, instead of playing pawn shop to get parts.
Specifically referring to the wheel market.
You are talking to a guy who has a custom hotside and a race cover on the compressor side (S300 comp cover on a S200 family wheel) on a $1300 turbo in a Land Speed and Standing Mile car.. Which is what I'd rather focus my time and efforts on, instead of playing pawn shop to get parts.
Specifically referring to the wheel market.
#176
01-11-2011, 04:18 PM
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 4,424
Find the sentence where I said no R&D, you won't.
I also never said time attack, and if you read carefully you will notice I used Formula/LeMans as an example of the budget that is bestowed to the group's aero team, I know this because I was told by one of the guys from Yokohama working on the car..
I am still looking for my links and images which for some reason I haven't put on my image host so I will have to sift through my computers...
Notice how you didn't question the fact that they are prevalent in the drag world. It's because they work.
They will stand up over and over again to the task of funneling 1000whp+ down the drag strip, which is more stress than any Fit on this forum will put them through. Including the lateral flexing which I will guaran-fucking-tee you is not insignificant in a drag car.
Last edited by DiamondStarMonsters; 01-11-2011 at 04:23 PM.
#177
01-11-2011, 04:20 PM
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 4,424
Thats perfectly fine. Pardon my rant then
On an unrelated note.. how do you like the Droid? I need a new phone soon haha
Last edited by DiamondStarMonsters; 01-11-2011 at 04:24 PM.
#179
01-11-2011, 04:26 PM
Dude, turn off troll mode sometime.. I think we could probably get along and seem to agree on more than a couple points, but really? Where do I benefit in making this shit up? lol
Find the sentence where I said no R&D, you won't.
I also never said time attack, and if you read carefully you will notice I used Formula/LeMans as an example of the budget that is bestowed to the group's aero team, I know this because I was told by one of the guys from Yokohama working on the car..
I am still looking for my links and images which for some reason I haven't put on my image host so I will have to sift through my computers...
Notice how you didn't question the fact that they are prevalent in the drag world. It's because they work.
They will stand up over and over again to the task of funneling 1000whp+ down the drag strip, which is more stress than any Fit on this forum will put them through. Including the lateral flexing which I will guaran-fucking-tee you is not insignificant in a drag car.
Find the sentence where I said no R&D, you won't.
I also never said time attack, and if you read carefully you will notice I used Formula/LeMans as an example of the budget that is bestowed to the group's aero team, I know this because I was told by one of the guys from Yokohama working on the car..
I am still looking for my links and images which for some reason I haven't put on my image host so I will have to sift through my computers...
Notice how you didn't question the fact that they are prevalent in the drag world. It's because they work.
They will stand up over and over again to the task of funneling 1000whp+ down the drag strip, which is more stress than any Fit on this forum will put them through. Including the lateral flexing which I will guaran-fucking-tee you is not insignificant in a drag car.
#180
01-11-2011, 04:34 PM
Lol np I love the phone its pretty amazing but it just sucks when your in a none 3g area aka my work location plus the phone version of this forum blows hard so I load the original site which takes for ever on 1g plus I have to keep zooming in and out causing me to skip comments most the time